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assertion_n i_o intend_v to_o satisfy_v the_o scrupulous_a 23._o and_o to_o put_v to_o silence_v the_o malicious_a so_o also_o to_o confirm_v the_o conscience_n of_o such_o as_o be_v friend_n and_o savourer_n to_o the_o right_a way_n of_o church_n government_n whatsoever_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n iâ—_n sin_n say_v the_o apostle_n yea_o though_o it_o be_v in_o a_o matter_n otherwise_o indifferent_a how_o much_o more_o be_v it_o necessary_a that_o we_o halt_v not_o in_o our_o judgement_n concern_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n but_o walk_v straight_o in_o the_o plerophory_n and_o full_a assurance_n of_o the_o same_o from_o the_o warrant_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n i_o say_v again_o from_o the_o warrant_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o as_o it_o be_v not_o my_o meaning_n to_o commend_v this_o form_n because_o it_o be_v scotland_n 1.9_o so_o i_o hope_v assure_o that_o my_o countryman_n will_v not_o despise_v god_n ordinance_n because_o it_o be_v scotland_n practice_n but_o rather_o follow_v they_o in_o so_o far_o as_o they_o follow_v christ_n and_o the_o scripture_n this_o therefore_o i_o pray_v 2.7_o that_o thy_o love_n may_v abound_v yet_o more_o and_o more_o in_o knowledge_n and_o in_o all_o judgement_n that_o thou_o may_v approve_v the_o thing_n that_o be_v excellent_a consider_v what_o i_o say_v and_o the_o lord_n give_v thou_o understanding_n in_o all_o thing_n amen_n the_o content_n of_o the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o treatise_n chap._n i._o of_o the_o word_n elder_a lay-elder_n ruling-eld_a four_o signification_n of_o the_o word_n elder_a in_o scripture_n of_o the_o nickname_n of_o lay-elder_n that_o the_o popish_a distinction_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o the_o laity_n ought_v to_o be_v banish_v of_o the_o name_n of_o ruling-elders_a and_o the_o reason_n thereof_o chap._n ii_o of_o the_o function_n of_o ruling-elders_a and_o what_o sâ—re_v of_o officer_n they_o be_v of_o the_o distinction_n of_o pastor_n doctor_n elder_n and_o deacon_n of_o 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tim._n 4.14_o confute_v that_o the_o apostle_n 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o presbytery_n aâ—_n assembly_n of_o presbyter_n whereof_o also_o father_n and_o counsel_n do_v speak_v the_o warrant_n and_o authority_n of_o our_o classical_a presbytery_n declare_v both_o by_o good_a reason_n and_o by_o the_o apostolical_a pattern_n for_o assertion_n of_o the_o latter_a it_o be_v prove_v 1._o that_o in_o many_o of_o those_o city_n wherein_o the_o apostle_n plant_v christian_n religion_n there_o be_v a_o great_a number_n of_o christian_n then_o do_v or_o can_v ordinary_o assemble_v into_o one_o place_n 2._o that_o in_o these_o city_n there_o be_v a_o plurality_n of_o pastor_n 3._o that_o yet_o the_o whole_a within_o the_o city_n be_v one_o church_n 4._o that_o the_o whole_a be_v govern_v by_o one_o common_a presbytery_n from_o all_o which_o a_o corollary_n be_v draw_v for_o these_o our_o classical_a presbytery_n chap._n iu._n of_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n provincial_a and_o national_n that_o the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o synod_n differ_v from_o the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o presbytery_n the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n
flock_n according_a to_o this_o gloss_n for_o peter_n oppose_v the_o lording_n over_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v ensample_n to_o the_o flock_n sure_o if_o this_o popish_a gloss_n be_v true_a protestant_n in_o their_o commentary_n and_o sermon_n have_v go_v wide_a from_o that_o text._n but_o mathias_n the_o apostle_n be_v choose_v by_o lot_n 26_o what_o then_o by_o what_o reason_n do_v the_o canon_n law_n draw_v from_o hence_o a_o name_n common_a to_o all_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n cleros_fw-la let_v 〈◊〉_d then_o banish_v from_o we_o such_o popish_a name_n and_o send_v they_o home_o to_o rome_n 1._o bellarmin_n think_v we_o have_v do_v so_o long_o ere_o now_o for_o he_o make_v this_o one_o of_o his_o controvert_v head_n whether_o we_o may_v right_o call_v some_o christian_n the_o clergy_n and_o other_o the_o laity_n or_o not_o ascribe_v the_o negative_a to_o protestant_n the_o affirmative_a to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n yet_o beside_o the_o clergy_n and_o the_o laity_n clerie_n papist_n hold_v that_o there_o be_v a_o three_o sort_n in_o the_o church_n distinct_a from_o both_o who_o they_o call_v regulares_fw-la these_o be_v such_o of_o their_o religious_a order_n as_o be_v not_o take_v up_o with_o contemplation_n alone_o like_o the_o monk_n but_o with_o action_n 1._o such_o as_o the_o dominican_n franciscan_n etc._n etc._n who_o help_n and_o assist_v the_o clergy_n in_o their_o ecclesiastical_a employment_n though_o they_o themselves_o be_v not_o admit_v into_o any_o particular_a charge_n in_o the_o church_n now_o he_o who_o will_v needs_o side_n with_o the_o papist_n in_o the_o distinction_n of_o clergy_n and_o laity_n may_v also_o with_o they_o admit_v a_o three_o member_n of_o the_o distinction_n and_o make_v roll_a elder_n of_o that_o sort_n especial_o since_o the_o reason_n why_o the_o regular_a chanoin_n be_v assume_v as_o helper_n to_o parish_n priest_n 4._o be_v propter_fw-la multitudinem_fw-la fidelis_fw-la populi_fw-la &_o difficultatem_fw-la invenâ—endi_fw-la curatos_fw-la sufficientes_fw-la &_o idoneos_fw-la say_v cardinal_n cajetan_n add_v further_o male_a consultum_fw-la populo_fw-la christiano_n invenitur_fw-la sine_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la supplemento_fw-la which_o reason_n agree_v well_o to_o rule_v elder_n for_o 1._o parish_n contain_v so_o many_o that_o the_o minister_n can_v oversee_v all_o and_o every_o one_o without_o help_n 2._o sufficient_a and_o fit_a minister_n shall_v hardly_o be_v every_o where_o find_v 3._o it_o be_v find_v by_o experience_n that_o sin_n and_o scandal_n be_v never_o well_o take_v need_n to_o and_o redress_v where_o rule_v elder_n be_v not_o to_o let_v all_o this_o pass_n if_o any_o man_n will_v needs_o retain_v the_o name_n of_o lay_v elder_n 28._o yet_o say_v gersomus_n bucerus_n what_o aspersion_n be_v that_o to_o our_o church_n be_v it_o any_o other_o thing_n then_o that_o which_o papist_n object_v to_o we_o for_o admit_v lay_v man_n into_o counsel_n they_o who_o 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not_o judge_v of_o question_n and_o controversy_n of_o faith_n how_o shall_v they_o determine_v the_o same_o they_o can_v not_o find_v out_o and_o discover_v heretic_n how_o shall_v they_o excommunicate_v they_o it_o be_v answer_v that_o this_o evil_n proceed_v from_o another_o viz._n that_o there_o be_v too_o much_o sloth_n and_o oversight_n in_o the_o admission_n of_o such_o as_o be_v to_o be_v member_n of_o a_o congregation_n paulinus_n and_o that_o they_o will_v be_v fit_a enough_o to_o do_v their_o duty_n if_o they_o be_v all_o saint_n they_o mean_v appearant_o and_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o charity_n such_o rom._n 1.7_o 1_o cor._n 1_o 2._o eph._n 1_o 1._o but_o say_v we_o again_o 1._o why_o may_v we_o not_o hold_v that_o when_o the_o apostle_n write_v to_o the_o saint_n at_o rome_n at_o corinth_n etc._n etc._n he_o mean_v not_o that_o all_o who_o be_v in_o those_o church_n be_v either_o true_o or_o appearant_o saint_n for_o some_o wicked_a one_o there_o be_v among_o they_o 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their_o baptism_n wherein_o they_o be_v all_o consecrate_a and_o devote_v to_o god_n some_o say_v that_o they_o be_v all_o saint_n in_o respect_n of_o their_o profession_n 3._o howsoever_o it_o be_v that_o they_o be_v all_o call_v saint_n yea_o put_v the_o case_n they_o have_v be_v all_o true_o saint_n sure_o their_o sanctification_n can_v not_o import_v their_o fitness_n to_o exercise_v jurisdiction_n in_o the_o church_n the_o former_a be_v a_o special_a grace_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n give_v to_o one_o for_o his_o own_o salvation_n the_o other_o be_v a_o common_a gift_n of_o the_o spirit_n give_v for_o the_o benefit_n of_o the_o church_n three_o it_o be_v not_o possible_a to_o exercise_v jurisdiction_n by_o a_o whole_a congregation_n without_o great_a confusion_n and_o disorder_n therefore_o this_o way_n can_v be_v from_o god_n who_o be_v not_o the_o author_n of_o confusion_n but_o of_o order_n if_o it_o be_v answer_v that_o order_n may_v be_v keep_v
desideret_fw-la 5._o add_v unto_o these_o a_o distinction_n betwixt_o a_o congregation_n lie_v alone_o in_o a_o island_n province_n or_o nation_n and_o a_o congregation_n border_v with_o sister_n church_n if_o either_o there_o be_v but_o one_o congregation_n in_o a_o kingdom_n or_o province_n or_o if_o there_o be_v many_o far_o distant_a one_o from_o another_o so_o that_o their_o pastor_n and_o elder_n can_v ordinary_o meet_v together_o then_o may_v a_o particular_a congregation_n do_v many_o thing_n by_o itself_o alone_o which_o it_o ought_v not_o to_o do_v where_o there_o be_v adjacent_a neighbour_a congregation_n together_o with_o which_o it_o may_v and_o shall_v have_v a_o common_a presbytery_n 6._o let_v we_o put_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o subordination_n of_o one_o congregation_n to_o another_o or_o of_o over_o eldership_n to_o another_o and_o the_o subordination_n of_o any_o congregation_n and_o of_o the_o eldership_n thereof_o to_o a_o superior_a presbytery_n or_o synod_n make_v out_o of_o many_o congregation_n as_o one_o provincial_a synod_n be_v not_o subject_a to_o another_o provincial_n synod_n yet_o all_o the_o provincial_n synod_n in_o the_o nation_n be_v subject_a 〈◊〉_d the_o national_n synod_n so_o it_o be_v also_o with_o the_o ordinary_a consistory_n one_o particular_a eldership_n be_v not_o subject_a to_o another_o yet_o all_o the_o particular_a eldership_n within_o the_o bound_n of_o the_o common_a presbytery_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o same_o so_o that_o there_o be_v a_o vast_a difference_n betwixt_o this_o subordination_n which_o we_o maintain_v and_o the_o subordination_n of_o all_o the_o parish_n in_o a_o diocese_n to_o the_o praelate_n and_o his_o cathedral_n where_o douname_n do_v object_n that_o all_o the_o parish_n of_o geneva_n be_v hierarchical_o subject_a to_o the_o presbytery_n in_o the_o city_n parker_n deny_v this_o nisi_fw-la quis_fw-la etc._n etc._n unless_o say_v he_o 23._o peradventure_o one_o may_v be_v subject_a to_o himself_o for_o the_o parish_n each_o for_o their_o own_o part_n and_o that_o alihe_v be_v this_o same_o presbytery_n and_o after_o consistorium_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o the_o consistory_n of_o the_o cathedral_n church_n be_v a_o external_a meeting_n divers_a distinct_a and_o separate_a from_o the_o rural_a church_n which_o be_v no_o part_n thereof_o this_o can_v be_v say_v of_o the_o presbytery_n of_o geneva_n 7._o we_o must_v distinguish_v betwixt_o a_o dependence_n absolute_a and_o in_o some_o respect_n a_o congregation_n do_v absolute_o depend_v upon_o the_o holy_a scripture_n alone_o as_o the_o perfect_a rule_n of_o faith_n and_o manner_n of_o worship_n and_o of_o church-government_n for_o we_o accurse_v the_o tyranny_n of_o prelate_n who_o claim_v to_o themselves_o a_o autocratoricke_n power_n over_o congregation_n assemb_v to_o who_o they_o give_v their_o naked_a will_n for_o a_o law_n one_o of_o themselves_o tell_v a_o whole_a synod_n that_o they_o ought_v to_o esteem_v that_o best_a which_o seem_v so_o to_o superior_n and_o that_o this_o be_v a_o sufficient_a ground_n to_o the_o conscience_n for_o obey_v though_o the_o thing_n be_v inconvenient_a we_o say_v that_o congregation_n ought_v indeed_o to_o be_v subject_a to_o presbytery_n and_o synod_n yet_o not_o absolute_o but_o in_o the_o lord_n and_o in_o thing_n lawful_a and_o to_o this_o purpose_n the_o constitution_n of_o presbytery_n and_o synod_n be_v to_o be_v examine_v by_o the_o judgement_n of_o christian_a discretion_n for_o a_o synod_n be_v judex_n judicandus_fw-la and_o regula_n regulata_n so_o that_o it_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v blind_o obey_v whether_o the_o ordinance_n be_v convenient_a or_o inconvenient_a last_o of_o all_o we_o be_v to_o distinguish_v betwixt_o the_o condition_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n before_o the_o division_n of_o parish_n and_o the_o state_n of_o our_o church_n now_o after_o such_o division_n at_o the_o first_o when_o the_o multitude_n of_o christian_n in_o those_o great_a city_n of_o rome_n corinth_n ephesus_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o divide_v into_o several_a parish_n the_o common_a presbytery_n in_o the_o city_n do_v suffice_v for_o the_o government_n of_o the_o whole_a and_o there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o a_o particular_a consistory_n of_o elder_n for_o every_o assembly_n and_o congregation_n of_o christian_n within_o the_o city_n except_o perhaps_o to_o admonish_v rebuke_n exhort_v or_o to_o take_v notice_n of_o such_o thing_n as_o be_v to_o be_v bring_v into_o the_o common_a presbytery_n but_o after_o that_o parish_n be_v divide_v and_o christian_a congregation_n plant_v in_o the_o rural_a village_n as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o city_n from_o henceforth_o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o every_o congregation_n shall_v have_v at_o hand_n within_o itself_o a_o certain_a consistory_n for_o some_o act_n of_o church-government_n though_o still_o those_o of_o great_a importance_n be_v reserve_v to_o the_o great_a presbytery_n and_o thus_o have_v 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as_o great_a ease_n of_o this_o kind_n as_o convenient_o can_v be_v chap._n iii_o of_o great_a presbytery_n which_o some_o call_v class_n the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d presbytery_n we_o find_v thrice_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n twice_o of_o the_o jewish_a presbytery_n at_o jerusalem_n luke_n 22.66_o act._n 22.5_o and_o once_o of_o the_o christian_a presbytery_n 1._o tim._n 4.14_o neglect_v not_o the_o gift_n that_o be_v in_o thou_o which_o 〈◊〉_d give_v thou_o by_o prophecy_n 1.20_o with_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o presbytery_n sutlivius_n and_o douname_n have_v borrow_v from_o bellarmine_n two_o false_a gloss_n upon_o this_o place_n they_o say_v by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d here_o we_o may_v understand_v either_o a_o assembly_n of_o bishop_n or_o the_o office_n of_o a_o presbyter_n which_o be_v give_v to_o timothy_n 161._o to_o these_o absurdity_n let_v one_o of_o their_o own_o side_n answer_v whereas_o say_v d._n forbesse_n some_o have_v expound_v the_o presbytery_n in_o this_o place_n to_o be_v a_o company_n of_o bishop_n unless_o by_o bishop_n thou_o will_v understand_v simple_a presbyter_n it_o be_v a_o violent_a interpretation_n and_o a_o insolent_a meaning_n and_o whereas_o other_o have_v understand_v the_o degree_n itself_o of_o eldership_n this_o can_v not_o stand_v 1._o for_o the_o degree_n have_v not_o hand_n but_o hand_n be_v mens_fw-la i_o find_v in_o sutlivius_n a_o three_o gloss_n he_o say_v that_o the_o word_n presbytery_n in_o this_o place_n signify_v the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n non_fw-la juris_fw-la vinculo_fw-la sed_fw-la ut_fw-la cunque_fw-la collectos_fw-la inter_fw-la quos_fw-la etiam_fw-la apostoli_fw-la erant_fw-la ans._n 1._o if_o so_o than_o the_o occasional_a meeting_n of_o minister_n be_v it_o in_o a_o journey_n or_o at_o a_o wedding_n or_o a_o burial_n etc._n etc._n shall_v all_o be_v presbytery_n for_o than_o they_o be_v ut_fw-la cunque_fw-la collecti_fw-la 2._o the_o apostle_n do_v put_v the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d better_a order_n then_o to_o leave_v imposition_n of_o hand_n or_o
matter_n of_o importance_n which_o be_v proper_a unto_o the_o same_o this_o the_o prelacy_n do_v not_o regard_v 6._o presbytery_n and_o synod_n do_v not_o which_o the_o prelate_n do_v imperious_o and_o by_o their_o sole_a arbitrement_n domineer_v over_o congregation_n for_o their_o power_n be_v directive_n only_o ministerial_a and_o limit_v by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o nature_n and_o the_o laudable_a ecclesiastical_a law_n receive_v and_o acknowledge_v by_o the_o congregation_n themselves_o 7._o experience_n have_v show_v we_o presbyterial_a and_o synodical_a government_n to_o be_v not_o only_o compatible_a with_o but_o most_o conducible_a for_o the_o supportment_n and_o comfort_n of_o congregation_n whereas_o episcopal_a government_n draw_v ever_o after_o it_o mâ—lam_v caâ—dâ—m_n and_o a_o general_a grievance_n of_o the_o church_n some_o other_o objection_n there_o be_v for_o obviate_a whereof_o i_o shall_v permit_v and_o explain_v a_o distinction_n which_o shall_v serve_v to_o answer_v they_o all_o we_o may_v consider_v a_o visible_a church_n either_o metaphysical_o or_o political_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o consider_v man_n as_o live_a creature_n endue_v with_o reason_n another_o thing_n to_o consider_v they_o as_o magistrate_n master_n father_n child_n servant_n etc._n etc._n so_o be_v it_o one_o thing_n to_o consider_v a_o visible_a church_n as_o a_o society_n of_o man_n and_o woman_n separate_v from_o the_o blind_a world_n by_o divine_a vocation_n and_o profess_v together_o the_o gospel_n of_o jesus_n christ._n another_o thing_n to_o consider_v it_o as_o a_o political_a body_n in_o which_o the_o power_n of_o spiritual_a government_n and_o jurisdiction_n be_v exercise_v some_o govern_n and_o some_o govern_v these_o be_v very_o different_a consideration_n for_o first_o a_o visible_a church_n be_v take_v entitative_o or_o metaphysical_o her_o member_n do_v ordinary_o communicate_v together_o in_o those_o holy_a thing_n which_o fall_v under_o the_o 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bear_v date_n the_o 4._o of_o september_n 1611._o pag._n 9_o five_o my_o be_v a_o member_n of_o any_o one_o visible_a church_n metaphysical_o give_v i_o right_a and_o title_n to_o communicate_v with_o another_o visible_a church_n where_o for_o the_o time_n i_o be_o in_o sacris_fw-la misticis_fw-la such_o as_o the_o word_n prayer_n etc._n etc._n but_o my_o be_v a_o member_n of_o any_o one_o visible_a church_n political_o do_v not_o give_v i_o right_n and_o title_n to_o communicate_v with_o another_o visible_a church_n where_o for_o the_o time_n i_o be_o in_o sacris_fw-la politicis_fw-la such_o as_o ordination_n deposition_n excommunication_n etc._n etc._n hereunto_o do_v master_n robinson_n assent_v in_o these_o word_n as_o a_o man_n once_o baptize_v be_v always_o baptise_a 317._o so_o be_v he_o in_o all_o place_n and_o church_n where_o he_o come_v as_o a_o baptize_v person_n to_o enjoy_v the_o common_a benefit_n of_o his_o baptism_n and_o to_o discharge_v the_o common_a duty_n which_o depend_v upon_o it_o but_o a_o pastor_n be_v not_o a_o pastor_n in_o every_o church_n where_o he_o come_v upon_o occâ—sion_n neither_o can_v he_o require_v in_o any_o other_o church_n save_v that_o one_o over_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v set_v he_o that_o obedience_n maintenance_n and_o other_o respect_n which_o be_v due_a from_o the_o officer_n to_o the_o people_n neither_o stand_v he_o charge_v with_o that_o ministry_n and_o service_n which_o be_v due_a to_o the_o people_n from_o the_o officer_n the_o like_a he_o will_v have_v say_v of_o a_o elder_a or_o a_o deacon_n now_o this_o distinction_n shall_v serve_v to_o answer_v the_o objection_n follow_v object_n 112._o every_o christian_a congregation_n be_v a_o complete_a body_n ecclesiastical_a have_v all_o the_o part_n and_o member_n and_o all_o church_n officer_n which_o christ_n have_v institute_v therefore_o every_o congrgation_n have_v the_o full_a and_o absolute_a power_n of_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n answ._n every_o christian_a congregation_n be_v a_o complete_a church_n or_o body_n of_o christ_n metaphysical_o that_o be_v have_v the_o complete_a essence_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n yet_o every_o such_o congregation_n be_v not_o a_o complete_a ecclesiastical_a republic_n except_o in_o some_o certain_a case_n whereof_o we_o have_v speak_v chap._n 2._o and_o further_o we_o answer_v that_o this_o objection_n be_v allege_v to_o prove_v that_o 2_o or_o 3_o gather_v together_o in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n have_v immediate_o under_o christ_n the_o full_a power_n of_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n but_o sure_o i_o be_o that_o two_o or_o three_o gather_v together_o in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o a_o complete_a ecclesiastical_a body_n have_v all_o the_o member_n and_o officer_n which_o christ_n have_v institute_v for_o they_o themselves_o hold_v that_o in_o every_o christian_a congregation_n by_o christ_n institution_n there_o ought_v to_o be_v at_o least_o five_o officer_n and_o when_o those_o five_o shall_v be_v have_v there_o must_v be_v also_o a_o certain_a number_n of_o christian_a people_n to_o be_v govern_v and_o serve_v by_o they_o so_o that_o their_o argument_n do_v not_o conclude_v that_o which_o they_o propose_v to_o prove_v ibid._n object_n they_o who_o have_v receive_v christ_n have_v receive_v with_o he_o power_n and_o right_a to_o enjoy_v he_o though_o all_o the_o world_n be_v against_o it_o in_o all_o the_o mean_n and_o ordinance_n by_o which_o he_o do_v communicate_v himself_o unto_o the_o church_n but_o every_o company_n of_o faithful_a people_n if_o they_o be_v but_o two_o or_o three_o have_v receive_v christ_n therefore_o every_o such_o company_n etc._n etc._n answ._n if_o by_o the_o receive_n of_o christ_n they_o mean_v the_o receive_n of_o christ_n on_o his_o throne_n or_o the_o receive_n of_o he_o in_o his_o ordinance_n of_o church_n government_n than_o we_o deny_v their_o assumption_n for_o every_o company_n of_o faithful_a 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church_n intuitu_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la tanquam_fw-la finis_fw-la but_o that_o every_o company_n of_o faithful_a people_n