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A20517 A reply to M. Nicholas Smith, his discussion, of some pointes of M. Doctour Kellison his treatise of the hierarchie. By a divine Divine.; Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640?; Kellison, Matthew. 1630 (1630) STC 6929; ESTC S109712 163,687 351

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dignity_n but_o when_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o three_o order_n of_o they_o that_o be_v perfect_v the_o name_n order_n signify_v no_o name_n of_o dignity_n but_o rather_o be_v a_o name_n of_o subjection_n 15._o s._n denys_n in_o that_o sixth_o chapter_n say_v that_o the_o order_n of_o those_o who_o be_v perfect_v be_v in_o general_n three_o the_o last_o as_o dionysius_n carthusianus_n explicate_v to_o wit_n they_o that_o be_v purge_v be_v 5._o that_o be_v catechumenes_n energumenes_n apostate_n vicious_a infirm_a and_o timide_a or_o fearful_a person_n the_o next_o above_o they_o be_v the_o people_n baptize_v and_o admit_v to_o the_o sacred_a euchariste_n the_o high_a order_n of_o those_o that_o be_v perfect_v be_v the_o monk_n and_o religious_a who_o therefore_o be_v call_v according_a to_o the_o translation_n of_o lanselius_n summus_n corum_fw-la qui_fw-la initiantur_fw-la &_o perficiuntur_fw-la ordo_fw-la the_o chief_a order_n of_o those_o that_o be_v initiate_v and_o perfect_v not_o 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denis_n his_o work_n into_o french_a he_o in_o his_o apollogie_n for_o these_o work_n in_o answer_v a_o objection_n make_v by_o scaliger_n against_o they_o have_v these_o word_n 74._o chap._n 13._o pag._n 74._o rour_n l'intelligence_n de_fw-fr ce_fw-fr que_fw-fr nous_fw-fr disons_fw-fr faut_fw-fr supposer_n que_fw-fr saint_n denis_n voulant_fw-la montrer_fw-fr le_fw-fr bell_n order_fw-fr qui_fw-fr est_fw-fr en_fw-fr la_fw-fr hierarchy_n de_fw-fr l'eglise_fw-fr divise_fw-mi tout_fw-fr le_fw-fr peuple_fw-fr chrestien_n en_fw-fr deux_fw-fr party_n dont_fw-fr l'vne_n est_fw-fr celle_fw-fr du_fw-fr clergé_fw-fr l'autre_fw-fr est_fw-fr du_fw-fr peuple_fw-fr laique_fw-fr il_fw-fr distingue_fw-fr tout_fw-fr le_fw-fr clergé_fw-fr en_fw-fr trois_fw-fr ordres_n le_fw-fr premier_fw-fr esi_fw-la celuy_fw-fr des_fw-fr euesques_n l'autre_fw-fr des_fw-fr prestre_n &_o le_v tier_n de_fw-fr liturge_n etc._n etc._n for_o the_o understanding_n of_o this_o which_o we_o say_v it_o must_v be_v suppose_v 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go_v beside_o the_o matter_n or_o to_o prove_v against_o himself_o n._n 8._o and_o n._n 9_o his_o first_o argument_n be_v take_v out_o of_o sotus_n affirm_v it_o to_o be_v de_fw-fr jure_fw-la divino_fw-la of_o the_o divine_a law_n etc._n etc._n reply_n sotus_n his_o opinion_n concern_v that_o point_n whether_o by_o the_o divine_a law_n every_o church_n must_v have_v its_o bishop_n make_v for_o m._n doctor_n and_o against_o m._n nicholas_n 16._o m._n nicholas_n brag_v that_o he_o have_v say_v enough_o and_o in_o deed_n to_o much_o unless_o he_o have_v say_v more_o to_o the_o purpose_n as_o partly_o have_v be_v show_v partly_o shall_v but_o say_v he_o nothing_o will_v more_o disadvantage_n his_o assertion_n then_o when_o the_o reader_n shall_v see_v by_o my_o answer_n that_o m._n doctor_n argument_n be_v beside_o the_o matter_n or_o against_o himself_o thus_o he_o but_o by_o his_o leave_n he_o still_o continue_v his_o old_a fault_n in_o make_v m._n doctor_n say_v more_o than_o he_o do_v 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may_v very_o well_o have_v and_o indeed_o have_v another_o interpretation_n then_o m._n nicholas_n give_v and_o they_o do_v clearelie_o favour_v that_o which_o m._n doctor_n say_v to_o wit_n that_o by_o the_o divine_a law_n every_o particular_a church_n at_o lest_o which_o be_v a_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o which_o m._n doctor_n speak_v shall_v have_v its_o bishop_n for_o suppose_v that_o christ_n have_v institute_v a_o hierarchy_n compose_v of_o diverse_a particular_a church_n govern_v by_o particular_a bishop_n and_o have_v give_v to_o the_o church_n authority_n to_o make_v this_o division_n of_o diverse_a church_n and_o diocese_n sotus_n as_o by_o the_o former_a word_n may_v be_v gather_v be_v of_o opinion_n that_o suppose_v the_o division_n of_o diocese_n every_o diocese_n much_o more_o every_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n as_o england_n france_n &c._n &c._n be_v by_o the_o divine_a law_n and_o appointement_n to_o have_v its_o bishop_n not_o peter_n or_o paul_n but_o one_o indeterminatelie_o and_o this_o by_o virtue_n of_o our_o saviour_n institution_n in_o general_a whereby_o that_o order_n be_v set_v general_o and_o every_o where_o to_o be_v observe_v singulis_n ecclesijs_fw-la ut_fw-la svi_fw-la applicentur_fw-la episcopi_fw-la that_o to_o every_o particular_a church_n their_o proper_a bishop_n shall_v be_v apply_v and_o thus_o in_o general_a the_o election_n of_o bishop_n be_v deiure_v divino_fw-la of_o the_o divine_a law_n and_o therefore_o when_o a_o pope_n do_v apply_v a_o bishop_n to_o a_o diocese_n he_o do_v but_o that_o which_o our_o saviour_n have_v before_o institute_v in_o his_o general_a institution_n and_o commandment_n ut_fw-la singulis_fw-la ecclesijs_fw-la svi_fw-la applicentur_fw-la episcopi_fw-la that_o to_o every_o church_n their_o proper_a bishop_n shall_v be_v apply_v 18._o that_o the_o division_n of_o dioceses_n be_v ecclesiastical_a that_o be_v introduce_v by_o the_o church_n it_o
they_o be_v notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n all_o have_v the_o like_a necessity_n and_o there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n of_o one_o which_o be_v of_o another_o and_o so_o m._n doctor_n in_o his_o 14._o chapter_n n._n 2._o pag._n 376._o argue_v well_o from_o the_o like_a necessity_n in_o this_o manner_n by_o the_o divine_a law_n there_o must_v be_v particular_a bishop_n in_o the_o church_n to_o supply_v the_o necessity_n of_o particular_a church_n but_o there_o be_v no_o more_o reason_n why_o the_o particular_a church_n of_o france_n for_o he_o speak_v especial_o of_o great_a particular_a church_n which_o be_v notable_a part_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n shall_v be_v govern_v by_o a_o bishop_n or_o bishop_n more_o or_o few_o according_a to_o the_o extent_n of_o the_o country_n rather_o than_o the_o church_n of_o spain_n or_o the_o church_n of_o england_n ergo_fw-la france_n spain_n and_o england_n and_o all_o other_o such_o particular_a church_n of_o extent_n must_v be_v govern_v by_o bishop_n and_o every_o one_o by_o his_o own_o all_o have_v the_o like_a necessity_n 29._o m._n nicholas_n numer_n 12._o wonder_v that_o a_o learned_a man_n shall_v use_v such_o a_o form_n of_o argument_n and_o therefore_o to_o make_v a_o show_n against_o this_o argument_n of_o m._n doctor_n be_v bring_v other_o argument_n very_o ridiculous_a which_o though_o they_o may_v seem_v to_o the_o ignorant_a to_o be_v like_a yet_o indeed_o be_v not_o so_o like_a as_o chalk_n and_o cheise_n his_o first_o argument_n of_o diverse_a meat_n do_v argue_v that_o he_o be_v hungry_a for_o want_v of_o argument_n else_o he_o will_v not_o have_v make_v use_n of_o one_o so_o weak_a and_o lean_a thus_o he_o argue_v some_o meat_n be_v necessary_a for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o man_n but_o there_o be_v no_o more_o reason_n why_o egg_n or_o fish_n shall_v be_v necessary_a rather_o than_o other_o particular_a meat_n ergo_fw-la egg_n fish_n and_o all_o meat_n be_v necessary_a 30._o but_o i_o marvel_v that_o m._n nicholas_n if_o he_o be_v learned_a can_v not_o see_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o his_o own_o and_o m._n doctor_n argument_n for_o that_o he_o arargu_v from_o the_o necessity_n of_o some_o indeterminate_a mean_n to_o the_o necessity_n of_o some_o determinate_a mean_n master_n doctor_n argue_v from_o like_a end_n to_o the_o like_a necessary_a mean_n the_o first_o manner_n of_o argue_v which_o master_n nicholas_n use_v be_v ridiculous_a for_o it_o follow_v not_o meat_n which_o be_v a_o indeterminate_a mean_a be_v necessary_a for_o man_n life_n ergo_fw-la this_o meat_n bishop_n be_v necessary_a in_o the_o church_n ergo_fw-la this_o bishop_n in_o particular_a marriage_n of_o some_o man_n be_v necessary_a to_o maintain_v lawful_o mankind_n ergo_fw-la this_o man_n must_v marry_v m._n doctor_n manner_n of_o argue_v be_v good_a and_o solid_a for_o that_o it_o be_v ground_v in_o parity_n and_o equality_n of_o reason_n 5._o lib._n 1._o post_n or_o c._n 4._o &_o 5._o or_o in_o this_o principle_n know_v by_o the_o light_n of_o reason_n quod_fw-la convenit_fw-la alicui_fw-la quâtale_fw-la convenit_fw-la omni_fw-la tali_fw-la that_o which_o agree_v to_o a_o thing_n as_o it_o be_v such_o a_o thing_n agree_v to_o every_o such_o thing_n as_o for_o example_n say_v aristatele_fw-la because_o it_o agree_v to_o a_o triangle_n as_o it_o be_v a_o triangle_n to_o have_v three_o angle_n equal_a to_o two_o right_a angle_n it_o agree_v to_o every_o triangle_n to_o have_v three_o angle_n equal_a to_o two_o right_a angle_n but_o because_o it_o agree_v not_o to_o a_o triangle_n as_o it_o be_v a_o triangle_n to_o be_v of_o brass_n every_o triangle_n be_v not_o of_o brass_n and_o so_o because_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o a_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n as_o it_o be_v a_o notable_a part_n to_o have_v a_o bishop_n and_o that_o also_o by_o the_o divine_a law_n because_o one_o bishop_n can_v serve_v sufficient_o two_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n every_o notable_a part_n must_v have_v its_o bishop_n and_o there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n of_o england_n france_n spain_n every_o one_o of_o these_o country_n be_v of_o such_o extent_n that_o one_o bishop_n can_v serve_v two_o of_o they_o every_o one_o of_o they_o must_v have_v its_o bishop_n by_o parity_n of_o reason_n and_o for_o that_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o a_o church_n to_o have_v a_o bishop_n because_o it_o be_v a_o notable_a part_n every_o such_o notable_a part_n must_v have_v a_o bishop_n because_o quod_fw-la convenit_fw-la alicui_fw-la quâ_fw-la tale_n convenit_fw-la omnitali_fw-la that_o which_o agree_v to_o a_o thing_n as_o it_o be_v such_o a_o thing_n agree_v to_o every_o such_o thing_n and_o if_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o one_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o another_o 31._o if_o m._n nicholas_n his_o argument_n have_v be_v thus_o frame_v it_o have_v be_v good_a meat_n or_o food_n in_o general_n be_v necessary_a to_o man_n life_n but_o there_o be_v nomore_o reason_n of_o one_o man_n then_o another_o for_o that_o all_o mortal_a man_n do_v need_v meat_n or_o food_n ergo_fw-la meat_n or_o food_n be_v necessary_a ot_fw-mi every_o man_n life_n but_o this_o food_n in_o particular_a as_o egg_n or_o fish_n be_v not_o necessary_a 32._o m._n nicholas_n his_o second_o argument_n be_v as_o ridiculous_a for_o that_o by_o it_o he_o argue_v from_o a_o indeterminate_a mean_a to_o wit_n from_o man_n who_o be_v necessary_a to_o maintain_v by_o marriage_n mankind_n to_o every_o particular_a man_n which_o kind_n of_o argument_n be_v not_o the_o same_o with_o that_o of_o m._n doctor_n but_o as_o fond_a as_o this_o a_o ship_n indeterminatelie_o be_v necessary_a to_o pass_v from_o dover_n to_o calais_n ergo_fw-la every_o particular_a ship_n 33._o his_o third_o argument_n be_v of_o the_o same_o or_o of_o a_o worse_a form_n and_o stamp_v religious_a institute_n in_o general_n be_v of_o the_o divine_a iustitution_n and_o the_o supreme_a bishop_n be_v by_o his_o office_n oblige_v on_o his_o part_n to_o procure_v that_o in_o the_o catholic_a church_n so_o sacred_a a_o institute_n be_v maintain_v but_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n why_o it_o shall_v be_v be_v maintain_v rather_o in_o france_n or_o spain_n then_o in_o england_n ergo_fw-la the_o pope_n be_v oblige_v to_o maintain_v the_o religious_a institute_n in_o england_n to_o his_o mayor_n or_o first_o proposition_n i_o answer_v that_o religious_a order_n can_v be_v no_o more_o norso_fw-la much_o necessary_a in_o the_o church_n 4._o i._o 2._o q._n 108._o be_v 4._o than_o the_o counsel_n in_o which_o according_a to_o s._n thomas_n they_o be_v ground_v which_o counsel_n be_v institute_v by_o christ_n but_o as_o m._n doctor_n say_v in_o his_o hierarthie_a pag._n 300._o they_o be_v not_o command_v to_o any_o but_o counsel_v only_o and_o so_o m._n nicholas_n can_v find_v out_o a_o divine_a precept_n to_o oblige_v the_o pope_n to_o admit_v any_o religious_a order_n as_o he_o be_v bind_v to_o give_v bishop_n to_o the_o church_n and_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o the_o pope_n do_v much_o deliberate_a before_o he_o admit_v of_o any_o new_a religious_a order_n and_o when_o he_o admit_v it_o he_o admit_v it_o only_o as_o profitable_a to_o the_o church_n not_o as_o necessary_a by_o any_o divine_a law_n 34._o but_o suppose_v it_o be_v of_o the_o divine_a law_n that_o religious_a order_n indeterminatelie_o and_o in_o general_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o church_n yet_o no_o religious_a order_n be_v necessary_a by_o the_o divine_a law_n in_o every_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n as_o bishop_n be_v and_o so_o it_o will_v not_o be_v a_o good_a argument_n religious_a order_n must_v by_o the_o divine_a institution_n be_v in_o the_o church_n ergo_fw-la in_o england_n or_o in_o this_o or_o in_o that_o particular_a coutrie_n but_o as_o i_o have_v prove_v it_o be_v of_o the_o divine_a law_n that_o in_o every_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n there_o must_v be_v a_o bishop_n and_o so_o there_o be_v no_o more_o reason_n of_o one_o such_o part_n than_o another_o all_o such_o part_n must_v have_v their_o bishop_n this_o i_o suppose_v will_v be_v m._n doctor_n answer_v to_o that_o argument_n now_o let_v m._n nicholas_n make_v what_o he_o can_v of_o this_o answer_n who_o very_o politikelie_a perhaps_o as_o he_o think_v say_v n._n 13._o pag._n 50._o when_o m._n doctor_n shall_v tell_v i_o what_o he_o think_v of_o this_o manner_n of_o argument_n i_o will_v then_o let_v he_o know_v what_o good_a use_n i_o shall_v be_v able_a to_o make_v of_o his_o answer_n whatsoever_o it_o be_v 35._o and_o by_o this_o m._n nicholas_n his_o four_o argument_n will_v prove_v to_o have_v the_o same_o fault_n that_o the_o other_o have_v it_o be_v not_o of_o the_o divine_a law_n as_o m._n doctor_n confess_v to_o have_v a_o bishop_n in_o
eiusmodi_fw-la praelatis_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o in_o such_o prelate_n we_o confider_v the_o degree_n of_o the_o holy_a order_n speak_v simple_o there_o be_v some_o thing_n in_o they_o worthy_a and_o more_o perfect_a then_o in_o the_o religious_a as_o religious_a not_o in_o holy_a order_n where_o we_o see_v he_o use_v m._n doctor_n reduplication_n which_o offend_v m._n nicholas_n and_o prefer_v the_o holy_a order_n before_o the_o state_n and_o perfection_n of_o a_o religious_a man_n who_o be_v not_o in_o holy_a order_n m._n nicholas_n i_o grante_v that_o if_o we_o limit_v the_o name_n of_o hierarchy_n to_o bishop_n priest_n deacon_n etc._n etc._n then_o to_o say_v that_o religious_a not_o priest_n or_o bishop_n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n be_v no_o more_o than_o to_o say_v religious_a not_o priest_n or_o bishop_n be_v no_o priest_n or_o bishop_n which_o sure_o be_v no_o great_a mystery_n but_o than_o it_o shall_v be_v prove_v with_o what_o ground_n the_o mame_n of_o hierarchy_n shall_v be_v so_o limit_v n._n 2._o the_o reply_n how_o regular_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o how_o they_o be_v not_o 8._o m._n nicholas_n from_o this_o place_n begin_v to_o prove_v that_o regulars_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o true_o if_o either_o god_n or_o his_o church_n have_v bestow_v that_o honour_n on_o they_o god_n forbid_v that_o i_o shall_v go_v about_o to_o take_v it_o from_o they_o rather_o i_o will_v by_o word_n and_o writing_n defend_v it_o and_o hazard_n even_o my_o life_n to_o assure_v it_o the_o more_o unto_o they_o but_o if_o neither_o god_n nor_o his_o church_n have_v give_v they_o this_o honour_n neither_o must_v we_o give_v it_o to_o they_o lest_o we_o break_v god_n his_o ordinance_n neither_o shall_v they_o desire_v it_o but_o as_o the_o laiety_n murmure_v not_o against_o the_o clergy_n as_o core_n dathan_n and_o abiron_n 16._o num._n 16._o and_o their_o follower_n do_v against_o moses_n and_o aaron_n for_o that_o they_o may_v not_o preach_v nor_o minister_v sacrament_n and_o as_o those_o of_o the_o secular_a clergy_n ought_v not_o to_o take_v it_o in_o evil_a part_n that_o they_o be_v not_o esteem_v religious_a so_o neither_o shall_v the_o religious_a be_v offend_v if_o we_o say_v that_o they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n neither_o god_n nor_o his_o church_n have_v bestow_v that_o honour_n upon_o they_o though_o they_o be_v adorn_v with_o many_o other_o grace_n rather_o they_o may_v rejoice_v in_o god_n that_o they_o have_v many_o perfection_n of_o a_o religious_a life_n which_o other_o have_v not_o and_o be_v furnish_v with_o more_o mean_n to_o attain_v to_o perfection_n then_o secular_a priest_n have_v and_o that_o their_o state_n be_v more_o secure_a and_o free_a from_o danger_n then_o any_o other_o state_n be_v 9_o and_o if_o m._n nicholas_n who_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v they_o to_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n mean_v only_o that_o they_o be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v a_o hierarchy_n neither_o m._n doctor_n nor_o any_o good_a catholic_a will_n or_o can_v deny_v it_o nay_o m._n doctor_n in_o his_o hierarchy_n 7._o chap._n 8._o n._n 7._o say_v that_o religious_a man_n as_o religious_a be_v a_o great_a ornament_n to_o the_o church_n and_o be_v in_o this_o sense_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n in_o that_o they_o be_v eminent_a member_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v ordain_v to_o help_v and_o assist_v bishop_n and_o pastor_n etc._n etc._n 10._o but_o if_o he_o mean_v that_o they_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o common_o it_o be_v take_v by_o s._n denys_n and_o divine_n for_o that_o part_n of_o the_o church_n which_o govern_v illuminate_v perfect_v and_o purge_v the_o rest_n by_o preach_v and_o administration_n of_o sacrament_n etc._n etc._n so_o only_a bishop_n pastor_n priest_n and_o other_o minister_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n the_o holy_a council_n of_o trent_n take_v the_o hierarchy_n say_v si_fw-mi quis_fw-la dixerit_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la hierarchiam_fw-la divina_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la institutam_fw-la quae_fw-la constat_fw-la ex_fw-la episcopis_fw-la &_o pres_n byter_fw-mi be_v &_o ministris_fw-la anathema_n sit_v if_o any_o shall_v say_v that_o there_o be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n a_o hierarchy_n institute_v by_o the_o divine_a ordinance_n which_o consist_v of_o bishop_n and_o priest_n and_o minister_n let_v he_o be_v accurse_v 6._o sess_n 23_o can_n 6._o where_o we_o see_v that_o the_o hierarchy_n be_v take_v only_o for_o that_o part_n of_o the_o church_n which_o consist_v of_o bishop_n priest_n and_o minister_n and_o see_v that_o regulars_n as_o regulars_n be_v neither_o bishop_n priest_n nor_o minister_n in_o the_o church_n as_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n be_v they_o be_v not_o as_o regulars_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o this_o sense_n for_o if_o as_o regulars_n they_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o this_o sense_n then_o lay_v brother_n and_o sister_n who_o be_v true_o regulars_n shall_v be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o the_o same_o sense_n and_o so_o shall_v be_v comprehend_v under_o bishop_n or_o priest_n or_o minister_n in_o the_o church_n 11._o and_o therefore_o i_o wonder_v that_o m._n nicholas_n pag._n 165._o shall_v say_v that_o it_o be_v temeritie_n to_o affirm_v that_o the_o council_n intend_v to_o define_v as_o a_o matter_n of_o fayto_fw-mi that_o under_o the_o name_n of_o hierarchy_n can_v be_v comprehend_v only_a bishop_n priest_n or_o other_o minister_n endue_v with_o order_n or_o jurisdiction_n rather_o it_o may_v seem_v great_a temeritie_n in_o m._n nicholas_n to_o comprehend_v regulars_n as_o regulars_n under_o that_o definition_n they_o as_o such_o be_v neither_o bishop_n nor_o priest_n nor_o minister_n in_o the_o church_n but_o peradventure_o m._n nicholas_n will_v comprehend_v regulars_n under_o th●_n word_n minister_n and_o why_o so_o be_v they_o as_o regulars_n minister_n in_o the_o church_n who_o as_o regulars_n can_v not_o by_o office_n preach_v or_o minister_v sacrament_n or_o assist_v at_o the_o altar_n with_o the_o deacon_n and_o subdeacon_n do_v he_o ever_o read_v or_o hear_v that_o regulars_n be_v call_v minister_n of_o the_o church_n certes_o vasquez_n a_o jesuite_n and_o regular_n 2._o vasq_fw-la to_o 3._o disp_n 238._o c._n 2._o under_o that_o word_n ministris_fw-la minister_n comprehend_v only_a deacon_n not_o other_o inferior_a minister_n much_o less_o under_o that_o word_n will_v he_o understand_v regulars_n who_o as_o regulars_n be_v never_o call_v minister_n in_o the_o church_n they_o as_o regulars_n have_v no_o church-function_n other_o under_o that_o word_n minister_n understand_v deacon_n and_o subdeacons_n but_o none_o understand_v regulars_n 22._o m._n doctor_n in_o his_o hierarchy_n chap._n 15._o touch_v this_o question_n whether_o regular_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o the_o former_a sense_n and_o indeed_o he_o seem_v only_o to_o touch_v it_o and_o that_o with_o great_a moderation_n and_o respect_n to_o religious_a and_o therefore_o allege_v no_o author_n for_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o and_o i_o also_o because_o i_o will_v not_o give_v the_o least_o occasion_n of_o offence_n will_v have_v be_v spare_v in_o this_o matter_n but_o that_o m._n nicholas_n urge_v i_o much_o in_o his_o 6._o question_n where_o he_o handle_v this_o point_n at_o large_a and_o say_v n._n 1_o that_o nothing_o be_v more_o frequent_a then_o that_o some_o person_n he_o seem_v to_o mean_v m._n doctor_n for_o one_o who_o i_o dare_v say_v scarce_o ever_o read_v s._n denys_n nor_o ever_o be_v much_o conversant_a in_o s._n thomas_n of_o aquin_n from_o who_o we_o have_v the_o best_a and_o almost_o only_a treatise_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n wilbe_n discourse_v of_o the_o secular_a clergy_n as_o though_o they_o only_o be_v of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n and_o because_o m._n nicholas_n will_v seem_v to_o be_v more_o conversant_a in_o s._n denys_n and_o s._n thomas_n than_o other_o be_v and_o say_v that_o from_o they_o we_o have_v the_o best_a and_o almost_o only_a treatise_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n i_o shall_v especial_o examine_v what_o s._n denys_n say_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o i_o will_v show_v so_o plain_o and_o clear_o out_o of_o he_o from_o whence_o indeed_o s._n thomas_n and_o all_o divine_v have_v learned_a that_o which_o they_o say_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n that_o regular_o in_o his_o opinion_n and_o as_o he_o take_v the_o word_n hierarchy_n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n that_o the_o reader_n will_v confess_v that_o either_o m._n nicholas_n never_o read_v s._n denys_n and_o so_o be_v of_o the_o number_n of_o they_o who_o as_o he_o say_v scarce_o ever_o read_v s._n denys_n or_o if_o he_o read_v he_o that_o he_o understand_v he_o not_o or_o witting_o and_o willing_o dissemble_v his_o opinion_n 13._o 5._o l._n de_fw-fr eccl._n hierarch_n cap._n 5._o s._n
〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d perfective_a or_o perfect_a respectivelie_o he_o s._n denys_n call_v the_o catechumenes_n energuman_n and_o penitent_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o order_n that_o be_v purge_v the_o sole_o people_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d illuminate_v and_o the_o order_n of_o monk_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d perfect_v 18._o and_o a_o little_a after_o this_o author_n add_v voylà_fw-fr do_n premierement_n comme_fw-fr il_fw-fr constitue_n les_fw-fr moyne_n entrele_n peuple_fw-fr laique_fw-fr qui_fw-fr esloient_fw-fr ceux_fw-fr qui_fw-fr faisoyent_n profession_n d'vne_n plus_fw-fr grande_fw-fr perfection_n que_fw-fr les_fw-fr autres_fw-fr &_o d'vne_n vie_fw-fr plus_fw-fr devote_v &_o spirituelle_fw-fr renonçans_fw-fr anx_n affection_n &_o soucis_fw-la d●s_fw-la choses_fw-fr de_fw-fr ce_fw-fr monde_fw-fr se_fw-fr devoüan_n &_o consacrans_fw-la totalement_fw-fr au_fw-fr service_n de_fw-fr dieu_fw-fr etc._n etc._n behold_v then_o first_o of_o all_o how_o he_o s._n denys_n place_v the_o monk_n amongst_o the_o lay_a people_n which_o monk_n be_v they_o who_o make_v profession_n of_o a_o great_a perfection_n than_o other_o and_o of_o a_o life_n more_o denoute_n and_o spiritual_a renounce_v the_o affection_n and_o care_n of_o the_o thing_n of_o this_o world_n vow_v and_o consecrate_v themselves_o whole_o to_o the_o service_n of_o god_n 6._o l._n de_fw-fr hier._n eccl._n c_o 6._o &c_n &c_n and_o after_o that_o to_o wit_n in_o the_o page_n 76._o and_o 77._o he_o relate_v out_o of_o s._n denys_n how_o the_o priest_n that_o be_v under_o the_o bishop_n have_v the_o office_n to_o consecrate_v the_o monk_n who_o make_v say_v he_o their_o profession_n entre_fw-fr les_fw-fr mains_fw-fr des_fw-fr prestre_n ●●_o dessoub_n des_fw-fr euesques_n betwixt_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o priest_n under_o the_o bishop_n and_o pag._n 78._o this_o author_n show_v out_o of_o s._n denys_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o demophilus_n how_o the_o rank_n and_o place_n of_o the_o monk_n in_o publicque_a assembly_n be_v with_o the_o lay_a people_n though_o as_o we_o have_v see_v they_o be_v above_o the_o people_n and_o under_o the_o clergy_n and_o say_v this_o author_n leur_fw-fr estoit_fw-fr deffendu_fw-fr d'entrer_fw-fr dans_fw-fr le_fw-fr presbytere_o it_o be_v ferbidden_v they_o to_o enter_v into_o the_o presbytery_n all_o which_o and_o more_o s._n denys_n himself_o have_v in_o his_o five_o and_o sixth_o chapter_n of_o his_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n as_o may_v partly_o appear_v by_o that_o which_o i_o have_v allege_v out_o of_o those_o two_o chapter_n 19_o by_o this_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o according_a to_o s._n denys_n and_o as_o he_o understand_v the_o word_n hierarchy_n the_o regulars_n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n that_o be_v of_o that_o part_n of_o the_o church_n which_o govern_v the_o rest_n and_o minister_v sacrament_n and_o preach_v and_o thereby_o purge_v illuminate_v and_o perfect_v which_o as_o s._n denys_n say_v be_v the_o proper_a action_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o be_v call_v hierarchicall_a action_n which_o also_o be_v exercise_v in_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o angel_n in_o which_o the_o superior_a order_n illuminate_v purge_v and_o perfect_v the_o inferior_a and_o therefore_o in_o s._n denis_n his_o time_n regular_o take_v their_o place_n beneath_o the_o clergy_n and_o above_o the_o lay_a people_n and_o although_o in_o late_a time_n the_o regulars_n enjoy_v the_o clericall_a privilege_n and_o be_v more_o frequent_o ordain_v subdiacon_n deacon_n priest_n yea_o and_o bishop_n and_o as_o such_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n yet_o as_o regulars_n they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o s._n denys_n his_o opinion_n for_o then_o in_o his_o time_n also_o they_o shall_v have_v be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o m._n nicholas_n who_o tell_v we_o that_o many_o who_o never_o read_v s._n denys_n be_v forward_o to_o discourse_v of_o the_o clergy_n as_o though_o they_o only_o be_v of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n show_v that_o he_o either_o never_o read_v or_o understand_v not_o s._n denys_n who_o will_v have_v regular_o to_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o even_o according_a to_o s._n denys_n his_o opinion_n 20._o and_o thus_o i_o hope_v i_o have_v bring_v sufficient_a proof_n out_o of_o s._n denys_n to_o exclude_v regular_o as_o regular_o from_o the_o govern_n and_o perfect_a hierarchy_n though_o i_o grante_v they_o to_o be_v eminent_a member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v a_o hierarchy_n to_o wit_n in_o like_a manner_n as_o they_o be_v member_n and_o subject_n of_o the_o kingdom_n who_o though_o eminent_a bear_v no_o rule_n in_o it_o and_o see_v that_o as_o m._n nicholas_n confess_v what_o other_o doctor_n even_o s._n thomas_n of_o aquin_n say_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n they_o rake_v out_o of_o s._n denys_n his_o authority_n be_v to_o be_v prefer_v before_o they_o all_o 21._o secondlie_o i_o add_v to_o s._n denis_n and_o his_o translatour_n and_o expositor_n a_o reason_n or_o two_o and_o my_o first_o shall_v be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n allege_v in_o my_o reply_n to_o this_o question_n n._n 7._o the_o council_n define_v that_o there_o be_v a_o hierarchy_n in_o the_o church_n which_o consist_v of_o bishop_n priest_n and_o minister_n 6._o sesse_n 23_o can_n 6._o but_o regulars_n as_o regulars_n be_v neither_o bishop_n priest_n nor_o minister_n ergo_fw-la they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o the_o council_n of_o trout_n take_v the_o word_n hierarchy_n the_o minor_a proposition_n i_o have_v prove_v in_o that_o number_n and_o so_o the_o conclusion_n must_v follow_v 22._o my_o second_o reason_n which_o exclude_v they_o from_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o the_o meaning_n of_o s._n denis_n shall_v be_v this_o they_o who_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n must_v sympathize_v with_o that_o part_n which_o be_v confessedlie_o of_o it_o to_o wit_n with_o bishop_n priest_n and_o minister_n in_o their_o manner_n of_o life_n and_o profession_n in_o their_o action_n and_o function_n but_o regulars_n as_o regulars_n do_v lead_v a_o life_n altogether_o different_a from_o the_o life_n of_o bishop_n priest_n and_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n and_o their_o action_n and_o function_n be_v as_o different_a ergo_fw-la regulars_n as_o regulars_n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n the_o mayor_n or_o first_o proposition_n be_v evident_a for_o that_o all_o who_o be_v of_o the_o same_o art_n or_o trade_n or_o the_o same_o science_n or_o profession_n do_v agree_v in_o action_n function_n and_o manner_n of_o life_n and_o therefore_o lawyer_n agree_v in_o plead_v and_o give_v counsel_n physician_n be_v busy_v in_o prescribe_v and_o minister_a physic_n carpenter_n work_n in_o timber_n mason_n in_o stone_n etc._n etc._n 23._o the_o minor_a and_o second_o proposition_n to_o wit_n that_o regulars_n as_o regulars_n do_v differ_v in_o action_n function_n and_o manner_n of_o life_n i_o shall_v prove_v out_o of_o s._n 82._o amb._n l._n 9_o ep._n 82._o ambrose_n s._n chrysostome_n and_o other_o author_n of_o good_a authority_n and_o so_o the_o conclusion_n must_v follow_v s._n ambrose_n in_o a_o epistle_n to_o they_o of_o vercelles_n compare_v the_o state_n of_o the_o clergy_n with_o that_o of_o the_o regulars_n say_v namque_fw-la hac_fw-la duo_fw-la in_o attentiore_fw-la christianorum_fw-la devotione_fw-la praestantiora_fw-la esse_fw-la quis_fw-la ambigat_fw-la clericorum_fw-la officia_fw-la &_o monachorum_fw-la instituta_fw-la ista_fw-la ad_fw-la comitatem_fw-la &_o moralitatem_fw-la disciplina_fw-la illa_fw-la ad_fw-la abstinentiam_fw-la assuefacta_fw-la atque_fw-la patientiam_fw-la haec_fw-la velut_fw-la in_o quodam_fw-la theatro_fw-la ista_fw-la in_o secreto_fw-la spectatur_fw-la ista_fw-la illa_fw-la absconditur_fw-la who_o can_v doubt_v but_o that_o these_o two_o the_o office_n of_o clerk_n and_o the_o institute_n of_o monk_n be_v the_o more_o excel_v in_o the_o more_o attent_a devotion_n of_o christian_n this_o discipline_n of_o clerk_n accustom_v to_o humanity_n and_o morality_n that_o of_o regulars_n to_o abstinence_n and_o patience_n this_o the_o state_n of_o clerk_n be_v as_o in_o a_o theatre_n that_o in_o secret_a this_o be_v obvious_a to_o the_o eye_n of_o man_n that_o be_v hide_v and_o a_o little_a after_o this_o life_n therefore_o of_o the_o clergy_n be_v in_o a_o race_n that_o in_o a_o den_n this_o against_o the_o confusion_n of_o the_o world_n that_o against_o the_o desire_n of_o the_o flesh_n this_o subdue_a that_o fly_v the_o pleasure_n of_o the_o body_n this_o more_o grate_n full_a that_o more_o secure_a this_o govern_v itself_o that_o restrain_v itself_o yet_o both_o deny_v themselves_o that_o they_o may_v be_v of_o christ_n because_o to_o the_o perfect_a it_o be_v say_v he_o that_o will_v come_v after_o i_o let_v he_o deny_v himself_o to_o himself_o and_o take_v his_o cross_n and_o follow_v i_o and_o again_o haec_fw-la ergo_fw-la dimicat_fw-la illa_fw-la se_fw-la removet_fw-la haec_fw-la illecebras_fw-la vincit_fw-la illa_fw-la refugit_fw-la huic_fw-la
so_o comprehend_v both_o that_o order_n only_o will_v make_v a_o man_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o it_o import_v distinction_n in_o order_n and_o jurisdiction_n only_o will_v make_v he_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o it_o impli_v distinction_n in_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o if_o he_o have_v both_o then_o by_o both_o title_n he_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n to_o his_o other_o demand_n n._n 4._o he_o be_v also_o answer_v in_o the_o hierarchy_n chap._n 5._o n._n 18._o and_o 21._o for_o if_o the_o four_o lesser_a order_n be_v of_o the_o institutition_n of_o the_o church_n as_o some_o author_n cite_v by_o m._n doctor_n affirm_v than_o they_o who_o be_v under_o subdeacons_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o regard_n of_o order_n by_o the_o church_n law_n and_o institution_n and_o not_o by_o the_o divine_a law_n and_o institution_n but_o if_o they_o be_v of_o the_o divine_a institution_n than_o these_o minister_n who_o be_v under_o subdeacons_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o regard_n of_o order_n by_o the_o divine_a institution_n and_o see_v that_o regulars_n who_o be_v neither_o bishop_n priest_n deacon_n subdeacons_n nor_o accolytes_n etc._n etc._n have_v neither_o order_n nor_o jurisdiction_n over_o the_o church_n as_o other_o minister_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n have_v they_o can_v as_o regulars_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o therefore_o if_o a_o abbot_n have_v only_o primam_fw-la tonsuram_fw-la the_o first_o tonsure_v which_o be_v no_o order_n although_o he_o have_v jurisdiction_n over_o his_o monk_n yet_o he_o shall_v not_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n because_o he_o have_v neither_o order_n nor_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n but_o only_a regular_n and_o so_o a_o abbot_n as_o abbot_n though_o he_o have_v ordinary_a power_n in_o his_o religious_a order_n be_v not_o so_o much_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o a_o bishop_n delegated_a because_o a_o abbot_n not_o bishop_n priest_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n at_o all_o 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