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A70617 An uncovering of mysterious deceits by which many are kept from repentance and entring the doore of life in a reply to M. Garners opposition of truth stiled Unvailing of mysteries, with addition of A reply to Mr. Thomas Whitfield his treatise with a three-fold title / by Thomas Moore. Moore, Thomas, Senior. 1647 (1647) Wing M2595; ESTC R30527 138,859 193

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Scripture where it is said of any part of the world or any sort of men in the world Christ did not dye for them or that he dyed not for All that he is not the Saviour of the world not the propitiation for the sins of the whole world then he may to some other sayings put in his but or only Besides it s shewn in the Treatise as much restraint in some applicatory saying about Creation Fall Death Resurrection Judgement and that some for whom Christ dyed perish And this for answer to page 14. 5. I have his puting that for Scripture which is none as that God hated Esaue before he was borne and such stuffe as answered enough as also his intimate farthering a falsehood upon the Apostle who never said all Christ dyed for are justified by his blood or have their sinne forgiven and shall be eternally saved I well perceive where the Scripture untranslated how some would misreport them to serve their owne turnes with but read the Treatise and there is answer un●●moved by Mr W. 6. He wrongs me in saying that I grant that the word world may some times be taken for the better part of them namely the Elect. But my Treatise saith otherwise That by the world in Joh. 17. is meant all the uncalled whatsoever they are in Gods decree of which they called are not and for which world clearly distinct from all the called that believe Christ prayed for a blessing on the ministration of the called that the uncalled the world distinct might beleeve vers 21.23 from which Mr. W. flyes when he comes at it as fearing it would confute his confutation As for all that followes it is so far from answering any thing that the Treatise remains still answer enough Besides I go by plain sayings of Scripture and not by Sillogismes in my Answer to the Objections and his sillogisme is slenderly proved All those and only those who are elected are likewise redeemed called justified glorified This his proposition Now I may make the Assumption not in two divers termes and so forcelesse as he did But in one viz. But Mr. T. W. is not glorified let himselfe make the conclusion and prove it But his main strength for confutation is in his Title and Epistle wherein he sides with and humours the prophane and scoffing company in using the language many do when they are powring in strong drinke and powring out oathes with Jeering and reproches But what he means by lay-preachers I am left to guesse I know the Scriptures distinguish between Governours and people as I hope he will not call the Governours our King Parliament and Magistrates Lay or of the people but Magistrates so I hope he will acknowledge himselfe a subject one of the people True before Christ came in the flesh there was a distinction betweene Priests and Levites and the rest of the people of Israel but now since Christ hath carried our nature to the right hand of God he is the high Priest and all that unfainedly believe are the spirituall Priests 1 Pet. 2 5-9 and the distinction is between the Church that is Gods inheritance and the world out of which they are called and chosen And this Church is the pillar of truth the light of the world and hath its authority for preaching each according to the faith and gifts given from Christ and not from men Rom. 12.3 1 Cor. 12.3 11. Eph. 4 7 12. 1 Pet. 4.11 Though liberty of doing this in publique places is from the Governours And that in the Church it selfe is a Distinction between Officers called Bishops or Elders and Deacons and the rest of the brethren And he that usurpe an Office without a Church call let him bear his reproof True when the Bishop of Rome began to usurp authority over Princes Then hee and his Ministers were called spirituall and the Clergie as if they were the Church and the Magistrates and people together as their inferiours called the Lavty But I find not that language in the Apostles writing And I hope because of the Covenant it is not the meaning of Mr. T. W. But only hee meanes men that are not in his order and so called as himselfe and then he begins wrong for without disparagement to him or them be it said the opinion he maintaines is that which such teach And the objections I answered I had them all in writing frō a Gentleman that very like sometimes hath been a Black-smith the calling the Distinctions proves and faulting them I had first from an Officer sometime a Shoo-maker and the opposition from some other Gentlemen of other callings And I hope Mr. Garner will not be ashamed to say he was an Apothecary nor I am perswaded will be glory in having Mr. T. W. of his side As for his charging them with wandering I have known some of his Order for calling have so done from place to place to get their living which I thinke he approves not but going where ones calling and Gods providence leads is not wandring though it were from Northamptonshire to great Yarmouth and from thence thither againe I wish he may requite none evill for good As for Tho. Moore He beleeves the Doctrine of the Gospel in the plain sayings thereof true and good and will acknowledge any swarving of his there from to be his errour when by those sayings it is shewne him But carnall reasonings or Philosophy he will not yeeld to to wave those sayings by As for his being a Weaver some twenty yeares since he hath no cause to be ashamed of it unlesse for his entering it contrary to the counsell of his deceased father and without consent of his then living friends and some correction from God on his body till by providence he was drawne from it nor hath he any cause to glory for having the same authority for school-teaching at that time that Mr W. had for preaching As for Wells it is a Coast Towne nighet Yarmouth and further from North●hampton Shire then Vpwell o● 〈◊〉 in which he lived But this but a little mistake for 〈◊〉 that takes greater things on trust and will undertake to describ● and censure those whom hee never knew nor correct his mistakes when by reading he might have had some knowledge to have set downe opinions righter As for that he saith T. M. hath of late taken on him the office of Teaching if hee had said neere twenty yeares ago hee received authority for Schoole-teaching hee had kept within some bounds of truth but for teaching or preaching Gospell I know not what hee meanes by Office for Apostles Prophets Evangelists Pastors Teachers were all Teachers and Preachers of the Gospell the words of prophecie exhortation wisdome knowledge faith c. are all for teaching Gospell the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every beleever to profit withall And teaching and preaching of Gospell and that to conversion or edifying soules hath been by reasoning or conference Joh. 4. Act.