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B11947 A discours hapned. Betwene an hermite called Nicephorus & a yong louer called Tristan, who for that his Mistresse Petronilla entred into religion would faine become an hermite. All faithfullie dravven out of the historie of Petronilla, composed in French by the Right Reuerend Father in God Iohn Peter Camus Bishop of Belley. And translated into English by P.S.P.; Petronille. English Camus, Jean-Pierre, 1584-1652.; P. S. P., fl. 1630. 1630 (1630) STC 4551; ESTC S116152 62,696 183

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