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A reply to the Answer (printed by His Majesties command at Oxford) to a printed booke intituled Observations upon some of His Maiesties late answers and expresses by J.M.
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J. M.; Milton, John, 1608-1674.
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fraudes holy salsehoods and religious untruth stood the Church of Rome c. And he concludes that wee ought to examine whether this policy worke not at least in the beginning till a discovery of their falsehoods is made and the people is undeceived the same effects in a civill State whether there are not such things as fraudes pretended to be Reipublicae salutares Here you have his apostasie you may see how suddainly he hath declined the truth for he is revolted againe into his pretences deceipts and falsehoods And I wish from my very heart that these had no greater influence upon the Actions of this man and such as he is than they have upon the proceedings of Parliament and then I am confident our sad Divisions and distractions would not be long lived I but then the Observator sayes It cannot be by force because they have no army visible A thing is said in law to be done by force not onely when men actually suffer if they make use of their liberty and refuse to satisfie the passion and humours of some but then also when they have just grounds of feare for this workes on the minde as strongly as the other on the body I but with the Authors favour this must be such a feare as may possesse a generous and setled spirit not every idle Phantasme or Chymaera such as they use to bugbearâ⦠Children withall It remaines then we examine whether the names of many Gentlemen were not openly read in tumults I marry Sir here is onâ⦠of the imaginary Spiriââ¦s that hath thus forced the understanding and reason of these men Doubtlââ¦sse this is not a sufficient ground of feare were it true which I much question to a resolved and setled judgement neither doth the law tââ¦ke hold of any such feare as thiâ⦠is I but then he goes on whether that they were not poasted with directions to thââ¦ir perticular lodgings I here you have another of these Hobgoblins and deformed Images more fit to fray children with than men Because if that were true they were directed to their Chambers and never intended as the event cleares it to approach them therefore they complied or were silent and so that faction prevailed I but he goes yet further whether the way to the House were not set with clamarous multitudes that they must passe through the middest of them whilââ¦st they insorme them what is fit to be voted and inquire after their names and what side they take This is like indeed to carry the visage of truth with it May not men who are part of the collective body of the Common-wealth whom the Parliament represents considering that sua res agitur it is their bââ¦sinesse that is there transacted have recourse thi her with a full desire onely to be informed of the proceedings of Parliament and how thingâ⦠succeed for their good but they must be branded with those ignominious stiles of unlawfull Assââ¦mblies and clamorous multitudes For their inquiring what their names were and which sââ¦de they tooke certainely ãâã they may do without ãâã and that can be no cause to make me dread a man because he knowes my name No nor his being privy to my actions nei ãâã if I am conscious to my self that they are such as are just and honourable ââ¦nd for their informing of them of what was fit to be voted that is as like to be true as that they shoââ¦ld vote what they had informed them For the other two of absence and accident he sayes they may be reduced to this I t is no wondââ¦r many stay away since they must be absent even whilest thââ¦y are there If their wills were absent by being a verse from the publique good whose fault was it that they stood Cyphers better in such case their rome than their company The Parliament requests of the King that all great Officers of State by whom pââ¦blique affaires shââ¦ll be ãâã ãâã ââ¦e chosen by ãâã or nomination of the great Counsell Could the King ãâã ãâã ãâã for him c. if all Parliaments were not taken as deadly enemies to ãâã Is that the ââ¦eason why each man preserves his owne right bââ¦cause he takes all the rest of mankinde for deadly enemies No but had I not a strong ãâã of such mens faith and loyaltie I should not upon just occasion ãâã to intrust my right with them I but can he with honour ãâã himselfe unfit to manage that ãâã ãâã the law hath commuted to him ãâã not a disavowing of his owne ability to be ruled by the ãâã of his great Counsell the Parliament one may manââ¦ge a trust well and yet no dishoââ¦ââ¦hat a whole Kingdom may doâ⦠it better With equall reason sayes he they may challenge to themselves the ãâã of all Bishops ãâã Sherââ¦ffes ãâã c. and dispose of all the preserments of England For thâ⦠Bishops thouââ¦h our sad experience at this day doth informe us that they have been very bad yet we shall not speak of what necessity it might be that they likewise should be nominated by the great counsell for that it is boubtfull whether ever they shall come in nomination again For the Ministers likewise I shall leave them to the choyce and free elections of their Patrons But now for the Sheriffes Justices and other inferiour Officers of the law I must ãâã I much wonder how those can be brought within the ranke and order of great officers of State neither can there be the like reason possibly rendred for the nominating of these as for the other for though they may be corrupt in their way yet that is a prejudice only to some particular interests no danger to the publike The truth of it is this Kingdome hath and doth still suffer under the heaâ⦠pressures of ill ãâã and Officers of Staââ¦e who instead of defending and propagating the good of the publike have and do most vilely and traiterously-corrode and gnaw out the very bowels of it Was not then their reqââ¦st and proposall very reasonable and safe both for King and people that they might nominate such of that known and publike trust and confidence who by their sedulous care honest and direct counsell and which is above all by their true and unfained zeale and affection to the common wealth might prevent the like distractions and miseries for the future But to passe this had his ãâã beene graciously pleased for to hearken and comply with this advise of the Parliament the greater had been his honour in that certaine pledge of continued happinesse and security to hââ¦s people If the King ãâã such a man Treasurer or Keeper out of his owne good liking only or upon recommendation of such a ãâã here ãâã is ãâã of no power but if it be upon the recommendation of the whole Kingdome in Parliament who in all probability can judge better and are more concerned this is an emptying himselfe of Majestie and ãâã himselfe of