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Bellum ErasmiĀ· Translated into englyshe; Adagia. Chil. IV Cent. I. English
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Erasmus, Desiderius, d. 1536.
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1534
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waâ on the one syde the incommodities on the other syde he shall fynde that vninste peace is farre better then rightous warre Why had we rather haue warre then peace Who but a madde man wolle angle with a golden fyshe hoke If ye se that the charges and expences shall amount farre aboue your gayne ye thoughe all thynges go accordynge to your mynde is it not better that ye forgo parte of your ryghte than to bie so lyttel commodite with so innumerable mischieues I had leuer that any other man had the tytle then I shoulde wynne it with soo gret effusioÌ of ChristeÌ mens blode He what so euer he be hath nowe ben many yeres in possessioÌ He is accustomed to rule his subiectes know him he behaueth him like a prince one shal come forth which fynding an olde tytle in some historyes or in some blynde euidence woll turne clene vp sette downe the quiete âtate and good order of that commen wele What auaileth it with so gret ruffeling to change any tytle which in short space by one chance or other must go to an other man Specially sith we mowe se that there is nothing in this world that doth coÌtinue styl in one state but at the scorneful plesure of fortune they rol to fro as the waues of the see Finally if Christen men can not despise and sette at naughte these so lighte thynges yet wherto nedeth it by and by to runne to harneâs Sith there be so many bishops men of great grauite and lernynge sith there be so many venerable abbottes sith there be so many noble men of great ancientie whom longe vse and experience of thynges hathe made righte wise Why are not these trifelynge childishe quarels of princis pacified and set in order by the wisedome and discretion of these men But they seme to make a very honest reason of warre whiche preâend as they wolde defende the Churche As though the people were not the churche or as though the church of Christ was beâun augmented and stabâished with warres and slaughters and not rather in spillynge of the bloude of martirs sufferance and despisynge of this lyfe or as though the holle dignite oâ the churche reâted in the riches of the pristis Nor to me truely it semeth not so alowable that we shuld so ofte make warre vpon the Turkes Doubtles it were not well with christen religion if the onely safegarde therof shulde depende on suche succours Nor it is not likely that they shulde be good christians that by these meanes are brought therto at the fyrste For that thyng that is gotte by warre is agayne an other tyme loste by warre Woll ye brynge the Turkes to the fayth of Christe Let vs not make a shewe of our gay riches nor of our great nombre of soudiours nor of our great strengthe Let them se in vs none of these solempne titles but the assured tokens of christen men a pure innocent lyfe a feruent desire to do well yea to our very ennemes the despisynge of money the neglectynge of glorie a poore simple lyfe Let them here the heuenly doctrine agreâble to suche a maner lyfe These are the bâst armours to subdue the Turkes to Christe Nowe often tymes we beinge ill fight with the yuel Ye and I shall sey an other thynge Whiche I wolde to god were more boldly spoken then truely if we sette a syde the title and signe of the Crosse we fighte Turkes ageynste Turkes If our religion were fyrst stablisshed by the might and strengthe of men of warre if hit were confyrmed by dente of sworde if it were augmented by warre then let vs maynteyne it by the same meanes and wayes But if all thynges in our feyth were brought to passe by other meanes Why do we theÌ as we mistrusted the helpe of Christ seke suche succoure as the hethen people vse But why shulde we not say they kyll them that wolde kyll vs So thynke they it a great dishonour if other shoulde be more michiuous then they Why do ye not then robbe those that haue robbed you before Why do ye not skolde and chide at them that rayle at you Why do ye not hate them that hate you Trow ye it is a good christen maÌs dede to slee a Turke For be the Turkes neuer so wicked yet are they men for whose saluation Chriâte suffred death And kyllynge Turkes we offre to the dyuell moste pleasant sacrifice and with that one dede we please our ennemy the dyuell twyse fyrste bycause a man is slayne and agayne bycause a christen man slewe hym There be manye whiche desyrynge to seme good christen menne studye to hurte and greue the Turkes al that euer they may where they be not able to do nothynge they curse and ban and byd a mischife vpon them Now by the same one poynte a man may perceyue that they be farre from good christen men Succour the Tourkes and where they be wycked make them good if ye can if ye can not wyshe and desyre of god they may haue grace to turne to goodnes And he that thus dothe I woll say dothe lyke a christen man But of all these thynges I shall intreate more largely when I sette forthe my boke intytled Antipolemus whiche whilom when I was at Rome I wrote to Iuly byshoppe of Rome the seconde of that name at the same tyme when he was counsailed to make warre on the Venetians ¶ But there is one thynge whiche is more to be lamented then reasoned That if a man wolde diligently discusse the matter he shal fynde that all the warres amonge vs christen men do sprynge eyther of folishenes or els of malyce Some yonge men without experience inflamed with the yuell examâles of their fore fathers that they finde by redynge of histories writen of some folyshe auctours beside this being moâed with the exhortations of flaterers with the instigatioÌ of lawiers and assentynge therto of the diâynes the byshoppes wynkynge therat or perauenture inâycynge thervnto haue rather of foolehardynes thenne of malice goone in hande with warre And with the great hurte damage of al this world they lerne that warre is a thynge that shoulde be by all meanes and wayes fled and eschewed Some other are moued by priây hatred Ambition causeth some and some are stirred by fyrcenes of minde to make warre For truly there is almoste nowe none other thynge in our cities and common weales then is conteyned in Homers warke Ilias The wrathe of vndiscrete princis people ¶ There be whiche for none other cause moue Warre but to th entent they may by that meane the more easily exercise tyranny on theyr subiectis For in the tyme of peace the auctorite of the counsaile the dignite of the rulers the vigor and strengthe of the lawes do somwhat let that a prince can not do all that hym listeth But as soone as warre is ones begunne now all the handlynge of matters resteth in the