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pag._n 17._o pag._n 17._o pag._n 17._o 17._o pag._n 2._o 2._o one_o of_o these_o son_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n who_o messenger_n this_o remonstrant_a be_v be_v he_o who_o swear_v by_o the_o eternal_a god_n he_o will_v be_v the_o death_n of_o those_o that_o do_v appear_v to_o move_v against_o the_o grievance_n of_o episcopacy_n and_o if_o the_o rest_n of_o these_o million_o mention_v pag_n 2._o who_o thousand_o be_v so_o punctual_o calculate_v p._n 41._o be_v of_o his_o spirit_n they_o be_v a_o army_n of_o very_o peaceable_a &_o right-affected_n man_n pag._n 7._o evaristus_n 100_o dionysius_n 260._o some_o say_v 267._o as_o pâ—l_v virg._n pag._n 13_o 14._o john_n maior_n l._n 2._o hist._n the_o gest_n scot._n cap._n 2._o heylins_n geog._n p._n 55._o gener._n hist._n of_o spain_n l._n 22_o pag._n 9_o pag._n 18._o pag._n 18._o 18._o frustra_fw-la coâ—saetudinem_fw-la nobis_fw-la opponunt_fw-la quasi_fw-la consuetudo_fw-la major_a sit_fw-la veritate_fw-la aut_fw-la nonid_fw-la sit_fw-la in_o spiritualibus_fw-la sequendum_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o melius_fw-la fuerit_fw-la à _fw-la spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-it revelation_n cyâ—r_v ep._n 73._o 73._o it_o be_v well_o observe_v by_o gerhard_n that_o a_o bishop_n phrasi_fw-la apostolicâ_fw-la that_o be_v the_o bishop_n that_o be_v the_o same_o with_o a_o presbyter_n be_v of_o fifteen_o hundred_o year_n stand_v but_o a_o bishop_n phrasi_fw-la pontificiâ_fw-la that_o be_v a_o distinct_a order_n superior_a to_o a_o presbyter_n invest_v with_o sole_a power_n of_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n be_v but_o a_o novel_a invention_n pag._n 19_o pag._n 19_o 19_o what_o the_o establishment_n of_o episcopacy_n by_o the_o law_n be_v and_o upon_o what_o ground_v the_o learned_a sir_n edward_n 〈◊〉_d inform_v we_o who_o report_v that_o in_o a_o act_n of_o parliament_n hold_v at_o câ—â—â—ile_n in_o the_o 25._o year_n of_o edw._n 1._o it_o be_v declare_v that_o the_o holy_a church_n of_o england_n be_v found_v in_o the_o state_n of_o prelacy_n within_o the_o realm_n of_o england_n by_o the_o king_n and_o his_o pregenitor_n etc._n etc._n for_o they_o to_o inform_v the_o people_n in_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o to_o keep_v hospitality_n and_o give_v alm_n and_o do_v other_o work_n of_o charity_n and_o the_o say_a king_n in_o time_n past_a be_v woâ—t_a to_o have_v their_o advice_n and_o counsel_n for_o the_o safeguard_n of_o the_o realm_n when_o they_o have_v need_n of_o such_o prelate_n and_o clerk_n so_o advance_v cook_n de_fw-fr jure_fw-la regis_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la but_o whether_o bishop_n have_v observe_v the_o order_n of_o their_o first_o foundation_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 19.20_o pag._n 21._o pag._n 8._o hierony_n ep._n ad_fw-la evag._n &_o ad_fw-la ocea_n iren._n aâ—ver_o â—aer_fw-mi l._n 4._o câ—p_n 43.44_o hist._n lib._n 5._o cap._n 23._o bellarm._n de_fw-fr cleric_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 15._o 15._o presbytery_n sicut_fw-la episcopis_fw-la dispensatio_fw-la mysteriorum_fw-la dei_fw-la commissa_fw-la est_fw-la praesunt_fw-la enim_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la christi_fw-la in_o consecratione_n dominici_n corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la consortes_fw-la sunt_fw-la cum_fw-la episcopis_fw-la &_o similiter_fw-la in_o doctrina_fw-la populorum_fw-la &_o in_fw-la officio_fw-la praedicandi_fw-la ac_fw-la solum_fw-la propter_fw-la auteritatem_fw-la summo_fw-la sacerdoti_fw-la clericorum_fw-la ordinatio_fw-la reservata_fw-la est_fw-la council_n aquisgran_n primum_fw-la can._n 8._o euangelium_fw-la tribuit_fw-la his_fw-la qui_fw-la praesunt_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la mandatum_fw-la docendi_fw-la evangeli_fw-la remittendi_fw-la peccata_fw-la administrandi_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la praeterea_fw-la jurisdictionem_fw-la videlicet_fw-la mandatum_fw-la excommunicandi_fw-la eos_fw-la quorum_fw-la notae_fw-la sunt_fw-la crimina_fw-la &_o resipiscentes_fw-la rursum_fw-la absolvendi_fw-la ac_fw-la omnium_fw-la consessione_n etiam_fw-la adversariorum_fw-la liquet_fw-la hanc_fw-la potestatem_fw-la jure_fw-la divino_fw-la communem_fw-la esse_fw-la omnibus_fw-la qui_fw-la praesunt_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la sive_fw-la pastor_n vocentur_fw-la sive_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la sive_fw-la episcopi_fw-la scriptum_n philip._n melanch_n in_o conventu_fw-la smalcald_a anno._n 1540_o a_o praecipuis_fw-la illarum_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la doctoribus_fw-la communi_fw-la consensu_fw-la comprobatum_fw-la de_fw-la potestate_fw-la &_o jurisdictione_n episcoporum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d jerom._n isa._n 3._o igna._n epis._n ad_fw-la magnes_fw-la conc._n ancyr_n can._n 18._o pag._n 20._o tertul._n tertul._n at_o ubi_fw-la omne_fw-la loca_fw-la circumplexa_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la conventicula_fw-la constituta_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o caeperunt_fw-la rectores_fw-la &_o caetera_fw-la officia_fw-la in_o ecclesiis_fw-la sunt_fw-la ordinata_fw-la caepit_fw-la aliâ—t_fw-la ordine_fw-la &_o providentia_fw-la gubernari_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ideo_fw-la non_fw-la per_fw-la omne_fw-la conveniunt_fw-la scripta_fw-la apostoli_fw-la ordinationi_fw-la quae_fw-la nune_n in_o ecclesia_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la haec_fw-la inter_fw-la ipsa_fw-la primordia_fw-la scripta_fw-la sunt_fw-la no_o &_o timotheum_n à _fw-la se_fw-la presbytorium_fw-la creatum_fw-la episcopum_fw-la vocat_fw-la etc._n etc._n sed_fw-la quia_fw-la experuliâ—_n sequentes_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la indigni_fw-la inveniri_fw-la ad_fw-la primatus_fw-la tenendos_fw-la immutata_fw-la est_fw-la ratis_fw-la etc._n etc._n hierom_n ad_fw-la evag._n ambros_n ubi_fw-la prius_fw-la grego_n naz._n orat._n 28._o pag._n 21_o 22._o greg._n nazi_n ubi_fw-la priuâ—_fw-la pag._n 22._o pag._n 23._o pag._n 23._o 23._o plebs_fw-la ipsa_fw-la maximè_fw-la babet_fw-la potesiatem_fw-la vel_fw-la eligendâ—_n dignos_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la vel_fw-la indignos_fw-la vecusandi_fw-la quâ—d_n &_o ipsum_fw-la videmus_fw-la de_fw-la divina_fw-la authoritate_fw-la de_fw-la scendere_fw-la ut_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la plebe_fw-la praesente_fw-la sub_fw-la omnium_fw-la oculis_fw-la deligatuâ—_n &_o dignus_fw-la atque_fw-la idoneus_fw-la publico_fw-la judicio_fw-la ac_fw-la testimonio_fw-la comprobetur_fw-la by_o priest_n the_o author_n here_o understand_v bishop_n as_o the_o whole_a series_n of_o the_o epistle_n show_v show_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d athanas._n epist._n ad_fw-la orthodoxos_fw-la idem_fw-la ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la cyprian_a cornelius_n athanasius_n and_o other_o cypr._n epist._n 33._o epist._n 58._o apud_fw-la cypr._n epist._n 75._o cum_fw-la jure_fw-la divino_fw-la non_fw-la sint_fw-la diversi_fw-la gradus_fw-la episcopi_fw-la &_o pastor_n manifestum_fw-la est_fw-la ordinationem_fw-la in_o suâ_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la factam_fw-la jure_fw-fr divino_fw-la ratam_fw-la esse_fw-la itaque_fw-la cum_fw-la episcopi_fw-la ordinarii_fw-la fiant_fw-la host_n ecclesiae_fw-la aut_fw-la nolunt_fw-la ordinationem_fw-la impertire_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la retinet_fw-la jus_o suum_fw-la melanch_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag._n council_n antios_n can._n 10._o &_o aneyr._n can._n 13._o council_n 4._o cathag_n can._n 22._o ibid._n can._n 3._o hieronym_n in_o epist._n ad_fw-la evag._n chrysost._n hom._n ii_o in_o i_o ad_fw-la tim._n chrysost._n upon_o the_o 1._o tim_n libro_fw-la de_fw-la septem_fw-la ordinibus_fw-la council_n aquisgra_fw-la 1._o can._n 8._o solum_fw-la propter_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la clericorum_fw-la ordinatio_fw-la &_o consecratio_fw-la reservata_fw-la est_fw-la summo_fw-la sacerdoti_fw-la bilson_n spalat_n franc._n à _fw-la sancta_fw-la clara._n cyp._n epist._n 6._o &_o 28._o council_n 4._o carthâ—g_v can._n 23._o with_fw-mi ruff._n hist._n lib._n 10._o cap._n 9_o sozo_n l._n 2._o c._n 23._o possiden_n de_fw-fr vita_fw-la aug._n c._n 4._o orig._n ham._n 11._o in_o exo._n pag._n 97._o decret_n part_n 2._o can._n 15._o quae_fw-la 7._o per_fw-la totum_fw-la &_o part_n dist._n 93._o cap._n 5_o 6._o clem._n alex._n stromat_n lib._n 7._o tertul._n apol._n advers._fw-la gent._n ambros._n epist._n ad_fw-la syagrium_n aug._n de_fw-fr verb._n apost_n ser._n 19_o 19_o constat_fw-la jurisdictionem_fw-la illam_fw-la excommunicandi_fw-la reos_fw-la manifestorum_fw-la criminum_fw-la pertinere_fw-la ad_fw-la onne_n pastor_n hanc_fw-la ad_fw-la se_fw-la solos_fw-la tyrannicè_fw-la transtulerunt_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la questum_fw-la contulerunt_fw-la episcopi_fw-la melanc_n ubi_fw-la sup_n sup_n hieron_n epist._n ad_fw-la heliodor_n ep._n ad_fw-la demet._n ambros._n lib._n 10._o epist._n 80._o cypr._n epist._n 12._o and_o this_o be_v the_o custom_n say_v cyprian_a in_o minoribus_fw-la delictis_fw-la cypr._n epist._n 46._o vide_fw-la etiam_fw-la cypr_fw-la epist._n 6._o tertul._n apol_n adver_n gent._n cap._n 59_o origen_n ham._n 7._o in_o josh._n cypr._n epist._n 55._o cypr._n epist_n 11._o ad_fw-la plebem_fw-la indecorun_n est_fw-la laicum_fw-la vicarium_fw-la esse_fw-la episcopi_fw-la &_o seculares_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la judicare_fw-la in_fw-la uno_fw-la enim_fw-la eodemque_fw-la opere_fw-la non_fw-la decetdispar_fw-la professio_fw-la quod_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o lege_fw-la divina_fw-la probibetur_fw-la dicente_fw-la mose_n non_fw-la arabis_fw-la in_fw-la above_o &_o asino_fw-la simul_fw-la council_n hispal_n 2._o cypr._n epist_n 28._o downham_n in_o the_o defence_n of_o his_o son_n cod._n li._n 4._o tit._n 20._o l._n 7._o athan._n apol._n 2._o apud_fw-la â—naram_fw-la greg._n deceet_a lib._n 3._o tit._n 2._o cap._n 8._o quâ_fw-la vos_fw-la decret_n greg._n lib._n 5_o tit._n 4._o cap._n 24._o chryso_v hom._n 40._o in_o 8_o tim_n recording_n this_o among_o those_o thing_n that_o he_o do_v dolo_fw-la modo_fw-la ducere_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sozo_n 1.9_o nicep_v 18._o â—1_n socra_fw-la 7.7_o lib._n 14._o c._n 14_o soc._n l._n 7._o c._n 19_o niceph._n l._n possidouâ—_n in_o vini_fw-la august_n august_n
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theognius_n be_v cast_v out_o of_o their_o several_a seat_n for_o arianism_n by_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a supra_fw-la other_o be_v appoint_v in_o their_o room_n by_o the_o clergy_n and_o people_n of_o each_o diocese_n to_o this_o election_n in_o nicomedia_n we_o can_v if_o it_o be_v needful_a in_o so_o clear_a a_o truth_n add_v many_o the_o like_a precedent_n of_o popular_a election_n which_o for_o brevity_n sake_n we_o pass_v over_o not_o question_v other_o but_o that_o which_o have_v be_v speak_v be_v sufficient_a to_o inform_v the_o intelligent_a reader_n that_o our_o bishop_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o former_a time_n be_v two_o in_o point_n of_o election_n sect_n viii_o a_o second_o thing_n wherein_o we_o have_v undertake_v to_o show_v that_o our_o bishop_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o former_a time_n be_v two_o be_v in_o the_o execution_n of_o their_o office_n and_o here_o there_o be_v three_o thing_n wherein_o he_o that_o will_v not_o wilful_o shut_v his_o eye_n against_o all_o 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he_o who_o be_v these_o colleague_n but_o his_o presbyter_n as_o he_o himself_o expound_v it_o writing_z to_z lucius_z in_o his_o own_o name_n and_o the_o name_n of_o his_o clergy_n and_o people_n ego_fw-la &_o collegae_fw-la &_o fraternitas_fw-la omnis_fw-la etc._n etc._n 58._o i_o and_o my_o colleague_n and_o my_o whole_a people_n send_v these_o letter_n to_o you_o etc._n etc._n so_o that_o it_o be_v clear_a in_o cyprian_n time_n presbyter_n have_v a_o hand_n in_o ordination_n and_o bishop_n do_v not_o ordain_v alone_o firmilianus_n say_v of_o they_o that_o rule_n in_o the_o church_n quod_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la 75._o manum_fw-la imponendi_fw-la et_fw-la ordinandi_fw-la poffident_a potestatem_fw-la and_o who_o those_o he_o he_o express_v a_o little_a before_o seniores_fw-la &_o prapositi_fw-la by_o who_o the_o presbyter_n as_o well_o as_o the_o bishop_n be_v understand_v and_o as_o these_o place_n prove_v that_o bishop_n in_o the_o primitive_a time_n can_v not_o ordain_v alone_o without_o the_o presbyter_n so_o there_o be_v that_o give_v we_o light_n to_o understand_v that_o the_o presbyter_n may_v ordain_v without_o the_o bishop_n the_o author_n of_o the_o comment_n upon_o the_o ephesian_n that_o go_v under_o the_o name_n of_o of_o ambrose_n say_v apud_fw-la egyptum_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la consignant_fw-la si_fw-la praesens_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la episcopus_fw-la in_o egypt_n the_o presbyter_n ordain_v if_o the_o bishop_n be_v not_o present_a so_o say_v augustine_n in_o the_o same_o word_n and_o the_o 13._o corepiscopus_n who_o be_v but_o a_o presbyter_n have_v power_n to_o impose_v hand_n and_o to_o ordain_v within_o his_o precinct_n with_o the_o bishop_n licence_n now_o licence_n confer_v not_o a_o power_n to_o he_o that_o have_v it_o not_o but_o only_o a_o faculty_n to_o exercise_v that_o power_n he_o have_v the_o iniquity_n of_o our_o time_n have_v be_v such_o that_o a_o minister_n may_v not_o preach_v to_o his_o own_o flock_n without_o a_o licence_n do_v this_o licence_n make_v a_o man_n a_o minister_n and_o give_v he_o power_n to_o preach_v or_o only_o a_o faculty_n and_o liberty_n to_o exercise_v that_o power_n shall_v a_o bishop_n give_v a_o like_fw-mi a_o licence_n to_o preach_v or_o to_o ordain_v do_v that_o licence_n make_v he_o a_o minister_n or_o a_o bishop_n sure_o all_o will_v say_v no_o why_o because_o in_o the_o like_fw-mi there_o be_v not_o actus_fw-la primus_fw-la the_o root_n and_o principle_n of_o that_o power_n which_o licence_n only_o open_v a_o way_n to_o the_o exercise_n of_o and_o therefore_o that_o must_v be_v conclude_v to_o be_v in_o those_o chorepiscopi_fw-la or_o presbyter_n by_o virtue_n of_o their_o place_n and_o calling_n and_o not_o by_o virtue_n of_o a_o licence_n so_o that_o the_o power_n of_o ordination_n be_v so_o far_o from_o reside_v in_o the_o bishop_n alone_o as_o that_o the_o presbyter_n and_o corepiscopi_n have_v power_n to_o ordain_v as_o well_o as_o he_o neither_o be_v this_o only_a a_o matter_n of_o ecclesiastical_a custom_n but_o of_o ecclesiastical_a constitution_n which_o bid_v the_o bishop_n first_o in_o all_o his_o ordination_n to_o consult_v with_o his_o clergy_n ut_fw-la episcopus_fw-la sine_fw-la concilio_n clericorum_fw-la suorum_fw-la clericos_fw-la non_fw-la ordinet_fw-la 22._o that_o the_o bishop_n shall_v not_o ordain_v a_o clergy_n man_n without_o the_o counsel_n of_o the_o clergy_n this_o be_v cyprian_n practice_n epist._n 33._o second_o in_o his_o ordination_n to_o take_v the_o concurrent_a assistance_n of_o his_o presbyter_n 3._o cum_fw-la ordinatur_fw-la presbyter_n episcopo_fw-la eum_fw-la benedicente_fw-la &_o manum_fw-la super_fw-la caput_fw-la ejus_fw-la tenente_fw-la etiam_fw-la omnes_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la qui_fw-la praesentes_fw-la sunt_fw-la manus_fw-la svas_fw-la juxta_fw-la manum_fw-la episcopi_fw-la sut_fw-la er_fw-mi caput_fw-la illius_fw-la teneant_fw-la when_o a_o presbyter_n be_v ordain_v the_o bishop_n blessing_n he_o and_o hold_v 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canon_n we_o have_v the_o unanimous_a vote_n of_o two_o hundred_o and_o fourteen_o bishop_n declare_v that_o the_o power_n of_o ordination_n be_v in_o the_o hand_n of_o presbyter_n as_o well_o as_o bishop_n tim._n and_o whereas_o it_o may_v be_v object_v that_o hierome_n and_o chrysostome_n affirm_v bishop_n to_o differ_v from_o presbyter_n in_o the_o power_n of_o ordination_n seem_v to_o imply_v that_o that_o power_n be_v sole_o they_o here_o we_o desire_v it_o may_v be_v observe_v first_o that_o these_o father_n put_v all_o the_o difference_n that_o lie_v between_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n to_o be_v in_o point_n of_o ordination_n quid_fw-la facit_fw-la episcopus_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la facit_fw-la presbyter_n exceptá_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la and_o therefore_o chrysostome_n himself_o confess_v that_o in_o his_o day_n there_o be_v little_a or_o no_o difference_n between_o a_o bishop_n and_o a_o presbyter_n inter_fw-la episcopum_fw-la &_o presbyterum_fw-la interest_n fermè_fw-la 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noâ—_n have_v the_o bishop_n of_o former_a time_n more_o right_a to_o the_o power_n of_o sole_a jurisdiction_n then_o of_o sole_a ordination_n and_o here_o we_o have_v confitentem_fw-la reum_fw-la our_o very_a adversary_n confess_v the_o vote_n of_o antiquity_n be_v with_o we_o cyprian_n profess_v that_o he_o will_v do_v nothing_o without_o the_o clergy_n 97._o nay_o he_o can_v do_v nothing_o without_o they_o nay_o he_o dare_v not_o take_v upon_o he_o alone_o to_o determine_v that_o which_o of_o right_n do_v belong_v to_o all_o and_o have_v he_o or_o any_o other_o do_v so_o the_o four_o council_n of_o carthage_n condemn_v the_o sentence_n of_o the_o bishop_n as_o irritanisi_fw-la clericorum_fw-la sententiâ_fw-la confirmetur_fw-la will_v you_o know_v the_o particular_n wherein_o the_o bishop_n have_v no_o power_n of_o judicature_n without_o their_o presbyter_n first_o in_o judge_v and_o censure_v presbyter_n themselves_o and_o their_o doctrine_n 6._o for_o this_o the_o canon_n law_n 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please_v to_o take_v notice_n that_o saint_n hierom_n speak_v not_o of_o one_o particular_a presbyter_n but_o of_o the_o order_n of_o presbyter_n the_o same_o s._n hierom_n say_v again_o sunt_fw-la quos_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la reprehendit_fw-la quos_fw-la interdum_fw-la abijcit_fw-la in_fw-la quos_fw-la non_fw-la nunquam_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la &_o clericorum_fw-la censura_fw-la desaevit_fw-la there_o be_v some_o who_o the_o church_n reprove_v and_o some_o which_o she_o cast_v out_o against_o who_o the_o censure_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n sharp_o proceed_v where_o we_o see_v the_o censure_n whereby_o wicked_a man_n be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o in_o the_o sole_a hand_n of_o the_o bishop_n but_o likewise_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o presbyter_n syricius_n bishop_n of_o rome_n signify_v to_o the_o church_n of_o milan_n that_o jovinianus_n auxentius_n etc._n etc._n be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n for_o ever_o and_o he_o set_v down_o how_o they_o do_v it_o 80._o 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exomologesi_fw-la facta_fw-la &_o manu_fw-la eye_v à _fw-la vobis_fw-la in_o poenitentiam_fw-la impositâ_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o after_o confession_n and_o the_o lay_n on_o their_o hand_n they_o may_v be_v commend_v unto_o god_n so_o when_o certain_a return_v from_o their_o heresy_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v into_o the_o church_n at_o rome_n in_o the_o time_n
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letter_n to_o sir_n francis_n knoll_v and_o learned_a master_n beza_n also_o say_v something_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n in_o his_o annotation_n upon_o revel_n 2.1_o angelo_n i._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quem_fw-la nimirum_fw-la oporuit_fw-la imprimis_fw-la de_fw-fr his_o rebus_fw-la admoneri_fw-la ac_fw-la per_fw-la eum_fw-la caeteros_fw-la collegas_fw-la totamque_fw-la adeo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la sed_fw-la hinc_fw-la statui_fw-la episcopalis_fw-la ille_fw-la gradus_fw-la postea_fw-la humanitus_fw-la in_o ecclesiam_fw-la dei_fw-la invectus_fw-la certe_fw-la nec_fw-la potest_fw-la nec_fw-la debet_fw-la imo_fw-la ne_fw-la perpetuum_fw-la quidem_fw-la istud_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d munus_fw-la esse_fw-la necessario_fw-la oportuisse_fw-la sicut_fw-la exorta_fw-la inde_fw-la tyrannis_fw-la oligarchica_fw-la cujus_fw-la apex_n est_fw-la antichristiana_n bestia_fw-la certissima_fw-la cum_fw-la totius_fw-la non_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la modo_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la 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and_o the_o ministry_n no_o true_a ministry_n and_o ordinary_o no_o salvation_n to_o be_v obtain_v without_o it_o and_o if_o this_o remonstrant_n shall_v leave_v bishop_n montague_n to_o answer_v for_o himself_o yet_o notwithstanding_o he_o stand_v bind_v to_o give_v we_o satisfaction_n to_o these_o two_o question_n which_o arise_v from_o his_o own_o book_n first_o whether_o that_o office_n which_o by_o divine_a right_n have_v the_o sole_a power_n of_o ordain_v and_o rule_v all_o other_o officer_n in_o the_o church_n as_o he_o say_v episcopacy_n have_v belong_v not_o to_o the_o be_v but_o only_o to_o the_o glory_n and_o perfection_n of_o a_o church_n second_o there_o be_v in_o this_o man_n thought_n the_o same_o ius_n divinum_fw-la for_o bishop_n that_o there_o be_v for_o pastor_n and_o elder_n whether_o if_o those_o reform_a church_n want_v pastor_n and_o elder_n too_o they_o shall_v want_v nothing_o of_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o church_n but_o of_o the_o perfection_n and_o glory_n 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fint_fw-la in_o ea_fw-la pastor_n presbyteri_fw-la sive_fw-la seniores_fw-la &_o diaconi_fw-la ut_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la puritas_fw-la retineatur_fw-la etc._n etc._n art_n 29._o credimus_fw-la omnes_fw-la pastor_n ubicunque_fw-la collocati_fw-la sunt_fw-la eâdem_fw-la &_o aequali_fw-la potestate_fw-la inter_fw-la se_fw-la esse_fw-la praeditos_fw-la sub_fw-la uno_fw-la illo_fw-la capite_fw-la summóque_fw-la &_o solo_fw-la universali_fw-la episcopo_fw-la jesu_n christo._n art_n 30._o gallicae_n confessionis_fw-la credimus_fw-la veram_fw-la hanc_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la aebere_fw-la regi_fw-la ac_fw-la gubernari_fw-la spirituali_fw-la illâ_fw-la politiâ_fw-la quam_fw-la nos_fw-la deus_fw-la ipse_fw-la in_o verbo_fw-la svo_fw-la edocuit_fw-la ità _fw-la ut_fw-la sint_fw-la in_o ea_fw-la pastor_n ac_fw-la ministri_fw-la qui_fw-la purè_fw-la &_o concionentur_fw-la &_o sacramenta_fw-la administrent_fw-la sint_fw-la quoque_fw-la seniores_fw-la &_o diaconi_fw-la qui_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la senatum_fw-la constituant_fw-la ut_fw-la his_fw-la veluti_fw-la mediis_fw-la vera_fw-la religio_fw-la conservari_fw-la hominésque_fw-la vitiis_fw-la dediti_fw-la spiritualiter_fw-la corripi_fw-la &_o emendari_fw-la possint_fw-la tunc_fw-la enim_fw-la ritè_fw-la &_o ordinatè_fw-la omniae_fw-la fiunt_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la cum_fw-la viri_fw-la fideles_fw-la &_o pii_fw-la ad_fw-la ejus_fw-la gubernationem_fw-la deliguntur_fw-la juxta_fw-la divi_z pauli_n praescriptum_fw-la 1_o tim._n 3._o confes._n belgic_a art_n 30._o caeterùm_fw-la ubicuuque_fw-la locorum_fw-la sunt_fw-la verbi_fw-la dei_fw-la ministri_fw-la candem_fw-la atque_fw-la aequalem_fw-la omnes_fw-la habent_fw-la tum_fw-la potestatem_fw-la tum_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la ut_fw-la qui_fw-la sunt_fw-la aequè_fw-la omnes_fw-la christi_fw-la unici_fw-la illius_fw-la universalis_fw-la episcopi_fw-la &_o capit_fw-la be_v ecclesiae_fw-la ministri_fw-la we_o believe_v that_o the_o true_a church_n ought_v to_o be_v govern_v by_o that_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o our_o episcopacy_n save_v only_o in_o perpetuity_n and_o lay-elder_n for_o who_o know_v not_o that_o between_o these_o two_o there_o be_v a_o vast_a a_o difference_n as_o between_o the_o duke_n of_o venice_n and_o a_o absolute_a monarch_n for_o 1_o the_o moderator_n in_o geneva_n be_v not_o of_o a_o
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5._o but_o if_o there_o be_v no_o lay-elder_n in_o the_o church_n till_o this_o present_a age_n we_o will_v be_v glad_a to_o learn_v who_o they_o be_v of_o who_o origen_n speak_v when_o he_o tell_v we_o it_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o christian_a teacher_n first_o to_o examine_v such_o as_o desire_v to_o hear_v they_o of_o who_o there_o be_v two_o order_n the_o first_o be_v catechumeni_fw-la or_o beginner_n the_o other_o be_v of_o such_o as_o be_v more_o perfect_a among_o who_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n nonnulli_fw-la praepositi_fw-la sunt_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o vitam_fw-la &_o mores_fw-la eorum_fw-la qui_fw-la admittuntur_fw-la inquirant_fw-la ut_fw-la qui_fw-la turpia_fw-la committant_fw-la eos_fw-la communi_fw-la caetu_fw-la interdicant_fw-la qui_fw-la verò_fw-la ab_fw-la istis_fw-la abhorrent_n celsum_fw-la ex_fw-la anima_fw-la complexi_fw-la meliores_fw-la quotidie_fw-la reddant_fw-la there_o be_v some_o ordain_v to_o inquire_v into_o the_o life_n and_o manner_n of_o such_o as_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n that_o they_o may_v banish_v such_o from_o the_o public_a assembly_n that_o perpetrate_v scandalous_a act_n which_o place_n tell_v we_o plain_o first_o that_o there_o be_v some_o in_o the_o high_a form_n of_o hearer_n not_o teacher_n who_o be_v censores_fw-la morum_fw-la over_o the_o rest_n second_o that_o they_o be_v design_v or_o constitute_v to_o this_o work_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d three_o that_o they_o have_v such_o authority_n entrust_v into_o their_o hand_n as_o that_o they_o may_v interdict_v such_o as_o be_v scandalous_a from_o the_o public_a assembly_n we_o will_v glad_o know_v whether_o these_o be_v not_o as_o it_o be_v lay-eelders_a that_o there_o be_v such_o in_o the_o church_n distinguish_v from_o other_o that_o be_v call_v to_o teach_v appear_v 137._o augustine_n write_v to_o his_o charge_n direct_v his_o epistle_n dilectissimis_fw-la fratribus_fw-la clero_fw-la senioribus_fw-la &_o universae_fw-la plebi_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la hipponensis_n where_o first_o there_o be_v the_o general_a compellation_n fratribus_fw-la brethren_n then_o there_o be_v a_o distribution_n of_o these_o brethren_n into_o the_o clergy_n the_o elder_n and_o the_o whole_a people_n so_o that_o there_o be_v in_o that_o church_n elder_n distinguish_v both_o from_o the_o clergy_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o people_n so_o again_o contra_fw-la cresconium_fw-la grammaticum_fw-la omnes_fw-la vos_fw-la episcopi_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la diaconi_fw-la and_o seniores_fw-la scitis_fw-la all_o you_o bishop_n elder_n deacon_n and_o elder_n do_v know_v what_o be_v those_o two_o sort_n of_o elder_n there_o mention_v in_o one_o comma_n 1._o and_o ibidem_fw-la cap._n 56._o peregrinus_n presbyter_n &_o seniores_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la musticanae_fw-la regionis_fw-la tale_n desiderium_fw-la prosequuntur_fw-la where_o again_o we_o read_v of_o elder_n and_o elder_n presbyter_n and_o senior_n in_o one_o church_n both_o those_o passage_n be_v upon_o record_n in_o the_o public_a act_n which_o be_v more_o full_o set_v down_o by_o baronius_n anno_fw-la 303._o num._n 15_o 16_o 17._o as_o also_o by_o albaspineus_n in_o his_o edition_n of_o optatus_n in_o which_o act_v the_o senior_n be_v often_o mention_v in_o that_o famous_a relation_n of_o the_o purge_n of_o caecilianus_n and_o felix_n there_o be_v a_o copy_n of_o a_o letter_n fratribus_fw-la &_o filiis_fw-la clero_fw-la &_o senioribus_fw-la fratribus_fw-la in_o domino_fw-la aeternam_fw-la salutem_fw-la another_o letter_n be_v mention_v a_o little_a before_o clericis_fw-la &_o senioribus_fw-la cirthensium_fw-la in_o domino_fw-la aeternam_fw-la salutem_fw-la these_o senior_n be_v interest_v in_o affair_n concern_v the_o church_n as_o be_v the_o man_n by_o who_o advice_n they_o be_v manage_v the_o letter_n of_o purpurius_n to_o silvanus_n say_v adhibete_fw-la conclericos_fw-la &_o seniores_fw-la plebis_fw-la ecclesiasticos_fw-la viros_fw-la &_o inquirant_fw-la quae_fw-la sint_fw-la iste_fw-la dissensiones_fw-la ut_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la secundum_fw-la fidâ—i_fw-la praecepta_fw-la fiant_fw-la where_o we_o see_v the_o joint_a power_n of_o these_o senior_n with_o the_o clergy_n in_o order_v ecclesiastical_a affair_n that_o by_o their_o wisdom_n and_o care_n peace_n may_v be_v settle_v in_o the_o church_n for_o which_o cause_n these_o senior_n be_v call_v ecclesiastical_a man_n and_o yet_o they_o be_v distinguish_v from_o clergy_n man_n they_o be_v mention_v again_o afterward_o by_o maximus_n say_v loquor_fw-la nomine_fw-la seniorum_fw-la populi_n christiani_n greg._n mag._n distinguish_v they_o also_o from_o the_o clergy_n tabellarium_fw-la cum_fw-la consensu_fw-la seniorum_fw-la &_o cleri_fw-la memineris_fw-la ordinandum_fw-la these_o senior_n have_v power_n to_o reprove_v offender_n otherwise_o why_o shall_v augustine_n say_v dom._n cum_fw-la ob_fw-la errorem_fw-la aliquem_fw-la à _fw-la senioribus_fw-la arguuntur_fw-la &_o imputatur_fw-la alicui_fw-la cur_n aebrius_fw-la fuerit_fw-la cur_n res_fw-la alienas_fw-la pervaserit_fw-la etc._n etc._n when_o they_o be_v by_o the_o elder_n reprove_v for_o their_o error_n and_o drunkenness_n be_v lay_v to_o a_o man_n charge_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o it_o be_v proper_a to_o the_o senior_n to_o have_v the_o cognizance_n of_o delinqent_n and_o to_o reprove_v they_o 2._o the_o same_o augustine_n in_o psal._n 36._o necesse_fw-la nos_fw-la fuerat_fw-la primiani_fw-la causam_fw-la quem_fw-la etc._n etc._n seniorum_fw-la literis_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la poâ—tulantibus_fw-la audire_fw-la be_v request_v by_o letter_n from_o the_o senior_n of_o that_o church_n it_o be_v needful_a for_o i_o to_o hear_v the_o cause_n of_o primian_n etc._n etc._n so_o again_o optatus_n who_o mention_v a_o persecution_n that_o do_v for_o a_o while_n scatter_v the_o church_n say_v erant_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ex_fw-la auro_fw-la &_o argento_fw-la quam_fw-la plurima_fw-la ornamenta_fw-la quae_fw-la nec_fw-la defodere_fw-la terrae_fw-la nec_fw-la secum_fw-la portare_fw-la poterat_fw-la quare_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la senioribus_fw-la commendavit_fw-la albaspineus_n that_o learned_a antiquary_n on_o that_o place_n acknowledge_v that_o beside_o the_o clergy_n there_o be_v certain_a of_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o people_n man_n of_o approve_a life_n that_o do_v tend_v the_o affair_n of_o the_o church_n of_o who_o this_o place_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v by_o all_o these_o testimony_n it_o be_v apparent_a first_o that_o in_o the_o ancient_a church_n there_o be_v some_o call_v senior_n second_o that_o these_o senior_n be_v not_o clergy_n man_n three_o that_o they_o have_v a_o stroke_n in_o govern_v the_o church_n and_o manage_v the_o affair_n thereof_o four_o that_o senior_n be_v distinguish_v from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o people_n neither_o will_v we_o desire_v to_o choose_v any_o other_o judge_n in_o this_o whole_a controversy_n 32._o than_o who_o himself_o constitute_v foreign_a divine_n take_v the_o general_a suffrage_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n and_o not_o of_o particular_a man_n as_o for_o the_o learned_a spanhemius_fw-la who_o he_o produce_v though_o we_o give_v he_o the_o deserve_a honour_n of_o a_o worthy_a man_n yet_o we_o think_v it_o too_o much_o to_o speak_v of_o he_o as_o if_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n