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A76157 Confirmation and restauration the necessary means of reformation, and reconciliation; for the healing of the corruptions and divisions of the churches: submissively, but earnestly tendered to the consideration of the soveraigne powers, magistrates, ministers, and people, that they may awake, and be up and doing in the execution of so much, as appeareth to be necessary as they are true to Christ, his Church and Gospel, and to their own and others souls, and to the peace and wellfare of the nations; and as they will answer the neglect to Christ, at their peril. / By Richard Baxter, an unworthy minister of Christ, that longeth to see the healing of the churches. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1658 (1658) Wing B1232; Thomason E2111_1; ESTC R209487 172,368 411

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absolution_n and_o confirmation_n 11._o king_n charles_n by_o the_o advice_n of_o his_o doctor_n in_o the_o isle_n of_o wight_n reserve_v only_a ordination_n and_o not_o confirmation_n and_o absolution_n to_o the_o bishop_n 12._o presbyter_n be_v governor_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v their_o pastoral_a charge_n and_o be_v call_v rector_n see_v bishop_n usher_n reduction_n of_o episcopacy_n etc._n etc._n prove_v it_o therefore_o they_o may_v do_v this_o which_o be_v a_o act_n of_o government_n or_o guidance_n of_o the_o particular_a church_n 13._o presbyter_n must_v teach_v and_o oversee_v the_o people_n as_o their_o charge_n and_o deliver_v they_o the_o sacrament_n therefore_o they_o must_v judge_v to_o who_o they_o must_v do_v it_o 14._o a_o diocesane_n bishop_n be_v uncapable_a of_o do_v it_o faithful_o can_v one_o man_n try_v approve_v and_o confirm_v faithful_o all_o