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A64555 Animadversions upon a late treatise, entituled The Protestant reconciler, humbly pleading for condescention to dissenting brethren in things indifferent and unnecessary for the sake of peace and shewing how unreasonable it is to make such things the necessary conditions of communion by a well-wisher to the churches peace, and a lamenter of her sad divisions. S. T. (Samuel Thomas), 1627-1693. 1683 (1683) Wing T971; ESTC R17255 66,638 174

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ejus_fw-la merem_fw-la serva_fw-la si_fw-la iniquam_fw-la non_fw-la vis_fw-la esse_fw-la scandalo_fw-la nec_fw-la quenquam_fw-la titi_fw-la ep._n 118._o most_o insolent_a madness_n to_o think_v that_o not_o to_o be_v do_v well_o or_o right_o which_o be_v do_v by_o the_o universal_a church_n and_o such_o i_o esteem_v to_o be_v the_o determination_n ☞_o ☞_o of_o this_o matter_n about_o ceremony_n the_o instance_n be_v very_o many_o which_o the_o learned_a reconciler_n himself_o afford_v we_o i_o will_v only_o here_o refer_v to_o two_o of_o of_o they_o the_o former_a be_v about_o the_o trine_n immersion_n or_o threefold_a dip_v in_o 283._o p._n 282_o 283._o baptism_n as_o a_o symbolical_a ceremony_n to_o signify_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n or_o the_o death_n and_o resurrection_n of_o christ_n after_o three_o day_n this_o thing_n say_v the_o reconciler_n be_v so_o much_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n that_o in_o the_o 49th_o canon_n of_o the_o apostle_n he_o that_o do_v not_o use_v this_o trine_n immersion_n be_v sentence_v to_o be_v depose_v from_o his_o dignity_n here_o than_o we_o have_v confess_o a_o severe_a imposition_n of_o a_o symbolical_a ceremony_n he_o tell_v we_o indeed_o afterward_o how_o 284._o p._n 284._o the_o arrian_n expound_v this_o custom_n to_o their_o advantage_n as_o signify_v the_o substantial_a difference_n of_o the_o father_n from_o the_o son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n the_o bishop_n of_o spain_n use_v a_o single_a immersion_n and_o pope_n gregory_n commend_v they_o for_o do_v it_o upon_o this_o occasion_n and_o this_o be_v bring_v into_o a_o law_n there_o by_o the_o four_o council_n of_o toledo_n here_o still_o be_v a_o symbolical_a ceremony_n bring_v into_o law_n and_o practice_n a_o single_a immersion_n in_o baptism_n to_o signify_v the_o unity_n of_o essence_n in_o the_o trinity_n and_o this_o only_o prove_v the_o former_a ceremony_n not_o to_o be_v necessary_a in_o itself_o as_o the_o former_a do_v this_o and_o that_o 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