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A42563 The Council of Trent no free assembly more fully discovered by a collection of letters and papers of the learned Dr. Vargas and other great ministers, who assisted at the said Synod in considerable posts : published from the original manuscripts in Spanish, which were procured by the Right Honourable Sir William Trumbull's grandfather, envoy at Brussels in the reign of King James the First : with an introductory discourse concerning councils, shewing how they were brought under bondage to the Pope / [translated] by Michael Geddes ... Geddes, Michael, 1650?-1713.; Vargas Mejia, Francisco de, 1484-1560. 1697 (1697) Wing G445; ESTC R16012 203,517 370

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