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lib._n 2._o pa._n 444._o lib._n 3._o pa._n 637._o lib._n 2._o pag_n 370._o annot._fw-la act._n 13._o lib._n 2._o pag._n 407._o learned_a dis_fw-fr pag._n numb_a 11._o 16._o 17._o 24._o 25._o pag._n 8.6.8_o 2._o chro._n 19.9_o 10._o de_fw-fr polit_fw-la 71._o tit._n 1._o cal._n in_o tit._n ecclesiasticus_fw-la pag._n 64.68_o t._n c._n lib._n 3._o pag._n 35._o junius_n ecclesiasti_fw-la 6_o 8._o beza_n annot_fw-mi 1._o tim_n 3.1_o disc._n eccle._n fol._n 57.58.65_o and_o 101._o pag._n 61._o ibidem_fw-la lib_fw-la 3._o pag._n 34_o lib._n 3._o p._n 54._o eccles._n 69._o anno._n 1._o cor._n 12.8_o thes._n geneu_fw-fr pa._n 217._o tim._n 3.8.9.10_o 11.12.13_o t.c._n lib._n 1._o pag._n 180._o annot._n 1._o pet._n 5.3_o beza_n de_fw-fr excom_n pag._n 54_o de_fw-fr excom_n pag._n 60._o ann._n 1._o cor._n 14._o ann._n act._n 4.13_o lib._n 1._o pag._n 183_o heb._n 13._o 17_o lib._n 3.69_o counterpoys_n pag._n 100l_n beza_n de_fw-fr exco_fw-la pag._n 112._o de._n excom_n pa._n 53._o cap._n 5._o sect_n 43_o the_o elect_a of_o elder_n of_o prescript_n against_o t.c._n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr polit_fw-la civet_n dei_fw-la etc._n etc._n 71._o mart._n lib._n a._n out_o of_o diverse_a of_o their_o book_n but_o especial_o the_o disc_n eccle_n fol_z 121._o the_o judgement_n of_o a_o learned_a beza_n de_fw-fr exco_fw-la pag._n 102._o law_n of_o geneva_n de_fw-fr excom_n pag._n 102._o rom._n 12._o 1._o cor._n 12._o 1._o tim._n 5._o de_fw-fr discipl_n eccles_n fol._n 121_o ibidem_fw-la 1574._o t.c._n lib._n 1._o pag._n 183._o demo._n cap._n 7._o junius_n eccle_n fol._n 53._o t.c._n li._n 2._o 1._o part_n p._n 274._o demo._n ca._n 15._o law_n of_o geneva_n ibid._n artic._n 23_o synod_n hage_n art_n 4._o ibid._n french_a disc_n art_n 4._o art_n 10._o lib._n 3._o pa._n 232._o instit._n demonst._n cap._n 7._o &_o 9_o disc._n ecc_fw-la so_o 53._o hist._n of_o the_o church_n of_o scotl._n pa._n 557._o hart._n to_o field_n câ—l_n inst_z lib._n 4._o cap._n 3._o sect_n 16._o ibd._n ibid._n 2._o tim._n 1._o 1._o tim._n 4._o ibid._n beza_n anno._n t.c._n lib._n 1.183_o beza_n daneus_n and_o the_o rest_n discip._n eccl_n fol._n 127._o ibid._n beza_n de_fw-fr presb_n pag._n 102._o math._n 16._o joh._n 20._o confess_v cap_n 5_o sect_n 43._o nont_fw-fr math._n 16.19_o annot._n math_v 18.17_o 18._o de_fw-fr excom_n pa._n 61._o lib._n 3._o pag._n 83._o thes._n theolo_o pag._n 243._o thes._n ceneâ—_n harmonia_n sect._n 2._o ibidem_fw-la ibidem_fw-la expla_fw-la para_fw-it 3._o pag._n 350._o conf._n cap._n 5._o sect_n 43._o t.c._n lib._n 1._o pag._n 183._o 1._o cor._n 1._o act_n 6._o 1._o timo._n 3._o 1._o tim_n 3_o act._n 8_o 6.7_o admonit_fw-la 1._o t._n c._n lib._n 1._o t._n c._n lib._n 2._o beza_n count_n saravia_n ca._n 7._o discipl_n of_o france_n of_o deacon_n beza_n con_v sat._n cap._n 7._o conf._n cap._n 5._o apho._n 25._o beza_n con_v sar._n cap._n 7._o cont._n sar._n c._n 7_o luke_n 4._o bullinger_n gualther_n hemingiuâ—_n dis._n pag_n 110._o bert._n of_o the_o church_n c._n 14._o council_n hage_n canon_n 35._o dis._n of_o france_n of_o the_o consist_v admonitio_fw-la 2._o beza_n de_fw-fr presb_n beza_n epist._n 85._o cart._n etc._n etc._n new_a discipline_n thes._n geneu_fw-fr beza_n count_n sar._n cap._n 7._o t.c._n lib_n 1_o pag_n 61._o count._n pa._n 130_o beza_n count_n saravia_n ca._n 7._o t._n c._n lib._n 1._o pag._n 180._o demon._n ca._n 13_o t._n c._n lib._n 1._o pa._n 190._o chemnit_fw-la ex_fw-la council_n trident_n par_fw-fr 3._o doct._n sutcliffe_n of_o ecclesi_n discip._n cap._n 6._o t._n c._n lib._n 1._o pag._n 190._o discip._n eccles_n 118.119_o order_n of_o geneva_n of_o deacon_n junius_n eccle_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 4._o beza_n annot_v rom._n 12._o &_o count_n erast._n t.c._n lib._n 1._o pa._n 190._o learn_v discourse_n fruitful_a sermon_n fenner_n defence_n fruitful_a sermon_n 1._o tim._n 5._o cal._n in_o 1._o tim._n 5._o t.c._n lib._n 2._o p._n 116._o t.c._n l._n 1._o p._n 190_o t.c._n l._n 1._o p._n 180_o fenner_n learned_a disc_n pag._n 104._o fruitful_a serm._n pa._n 39_o ibid._n ibid_fw-la pag._n 40._o defence_n pag._n 135._o de_fw-fr disci_fw-la eccles_n fol._n 119._o pag._n 131._o apoca._n 4._o beza_n count_n e-rast_a lib._n script_n knox_n of_o elect_v of_o elder_n thes._n geneu_fw-fr pag._n 220._o beza_n ann._n act_n 6.1_o t.c._n lib._n 1._o pag._n 187._o history_n of_o the_o church_n of_o scot._n pag._n 560._o &c_n &c_n ibid._n disc._n sacra_fw-la complaint_n of_o the_o commonalty_n humble_a motion_n complaint_n traversi_fw-la dis_fw-fr eccles._n the_o learned_a discourse_n exod._n 36._o barrow_n p._n 55._o 58._o 61_o petition_v to_o her_o may_n p._n 49_o humble_a motion_n p._n 100_o &c_n &c_n disc._n eccl._n fol._n 95.96_o sadol_n to_o the_o gene._n p._n 162_o â—al_a to_o sad._n p._n 172._o epist._n to_o farel_n in_o cal._n epist._n 6._o zuick_a to_o cal._n in_o cal._n epi._n 33._o calu._n epist_n 66._o cal._n to_o viret_n epist_n 108._o beza_n viret_n 3._o dial_n of_o white_a diucle_n ibidem_fw-la ibidem_fw-la ibidem_fw-la admonitio_fw-la 2._o to_o the_o parlia_n 15_o 7_o 2_o fol._n 94._o ibid._n fol._n 87_o ibidem_fw-la fol_z 95._o ibidem_fw-la fol._n 97._o supplicat_fw-la of_o the_o commonalty_n ibidem_fw-la ibidem_fw-la epist._n 54._o epist._n 47._o 3._o dialogue_n of_o whiâ—e_a devil_n g._n 7_o i_o 3._o i_o 4._o i_o 4._o k_o 2._o k_o 3._o k_o â—_o k_o â—_o farrago_fw-la p._n 36._o t.c._n beza_n vrsious_a de_fw-fr jure_fw-la regne_n apud_fw-la scot._n scot._n adm._n â—_o â—_o thes._n mar_v 12_o 12_o dem_n cap_n 6._o 6._o t.c._n discip._n eecl_n &_o all_o the_o rest_n cons_n cap_n 5._o art_n 23._o lib._n 2._o pa._n 420._o beza_n de_fw-fr presb_n fol._n 37._o &_o 43._o pag._n 18._o t.c._n lib._n 2._o pag._n 411_o etc._n etc._n def._n of_o ecclesi_n diset_fw-la 167._o i.b._n de_fw-fr policiu_fw-fr et_fw-la eccl_n pag._n a_o 63._o ad_fw-la 82_o lib._n 3._o pag._n 162._o 163_o lib._n 2._o pag._n 147._o disc._n of_o eccle_n disc_fw-la pag._n 148._o 174._o t.c._n lib._n 1._o pag._n 147._o 147._o t.c._n lib._n 2._o pa._n 48._o 48._o t.c._n lib._n 2._o pa._n 157._o 167._o 167._o t.c._n lib._n 2._o pa._n 165.154_o 165.154_o admon_n 2._o 2._o dis._n ec._n f._n 88_o 88_o t.c._n lib._n 3._o pa._n 154._o 154._o li._n 3._o p._n 153._o 153._o t.c._n lib_n 3._o pa._n 154._o 154._o t.c._n lib._n 1._o pa._n 192._o 192._o t.c._n lib._n 1._o pa._n 193._o t.c._n lib._n 3._o pa._n 162._o 163._o t.c._n lib._n 1._o p._n 193._o t.c._n lib._n 3._o pa._n 167._o t.c._n p._n 193._o admon_n 2._o p._n 61._o lib._n 2._o p._n i.b._n p._n 82._o 82._o harding_n against_o the_o apo._n 306.307_o 306.307_o hard._n ibid._n 303._o fecknam_n to_o b._n horn_n saunders_n de_fw-fr vis_fw-fr mona_n li._n 2._o cap._n 3._o rejoinder_n fol._n 379._o pet._n mart._n de_fw-fr magi_fw-la sect_n 23._o hard._n so_o 229._o def._n of_o the_o apol._n 664._o act_n of_o parliament_a ca._n 2._o t._n c._n 2.2_o p._n 164._o lin_v 29._o lib._n 3._o p._n 167._o 167._o conf._n apol._n par_fw-fr 6._o p._n 317._o 317._o ibid._n foe_o 304._o 304._o hard._n ibid._n t.c._n 2.2_o p._n 164._o &_o 167._o 167._o t.c._n 2.2_o p._n 157._o 157._o t.c._n ib._n 161_o 161_o t.c._n 2.2.162.167.161_o 2.2.162.167.161_o bid_v 156._o 156._o bid_v 161._o 161._o t.c._n 2.2_o 157._o 157._o t.c._n 12.193_o 12.193_o t.c._n 2.2_o p._n 156._o 156._o saunders_n lib._n 2._o c._n 3._o 3._o ibid._n ibid._n confut._n apol_n par_fw-fr 6._o 309._o 309._o hard._n fol._n 217._o fol._n 314._o 314._o fol._n 313.310.315_o 313.310.315_o hard._n 317._o 317._o ard_n 312_o 312_o he_o monarch_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 3._o 3._o hard._n conf_n apol._n par_fw-fr 6._o p._n 317._o 317._o saun._n lib._n 2._o cap._n 3._o lib._n 2._o a._n p._n 410._o ad_fw-la p._n 419._o lib_fw-la 2_o p._n 411.417_o humble_a motio_fw-la so_o 1._o lib._n 2._o p._n 411._o f._n 1.2_o annot._fw-la 10.5.6.22_o f._n 1._o calu._n in_o ephe_n 1._o v._n 23._o confess_v ca._n 5._o artic_a 1._o &_o 23._o the_o magistrate_n p._n 556._o p._n 557._o p._n 668._o p._n 557._o lib._n 2._o p._n 470._o liâ—_n p._n 413._o lib._n 2._o p._n 416._o lib._n 2._o p._n 412._o demonst._n mart._n thes._n t.c._n 1.2_o p._n 412.419_o t.c._n l._n 2_o p._n 416._o etc._n etc._n pezel_n m._n 7._o par_fw-fr ob_n mell_v p._n 31._o ibid._n p._n 178.345_o t.c._n l._n 1._o p._n 147_o disc._n eccl_n sacr_n pa._n 1._o i.b._n de_fw-fr polit_fw-la pa._n 68_o countecp_n pa._n 12._o i._o b._n ibid._n pa._n 74._o fenner_n theol._n pa._n 96._o thes._n geneu_fw-fr pa._n 219._o i.b._n deposit_v pa._n 70._o counterp_v pa._n 10._o t.c._n lib._n 2._o pa._n 440._o fenner_n the._n lib._n 4._o p._n 110._o bez._n annot_v joh._n 18._o v._n 36._o ep._n 83._o g._n sonnij_fw-la open_fw-mi tom._n 1._o p._n 399._o etc._n etc._n de_fw-fr presb_n p._n 124_o cap._n 15.16.17_o the_o order_n of_o excom_n in_o scotland_n ae._n 2_o ibid._n ibid._n