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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A36088	A Discourse concerning the grounds & causes of this miserable civill war wherein Ireland is exhausted, England wasted, and Scotland likely to be imbroyled, and wherein not only liberty but religion is endangered, &c.		1644 (1644)	Wing D1587; ESTC R15277	28,919	40

enough In the next place also our Prelates were contented to allow the Pope a priority above all Bishops but a superiority seemed more then due especially in England the Arch Bishop was resolved to be the supream Ordinary himself and yet his holines did not thinke it agreeable to his Vice-Godship to admit of that honour as due to the Arch-Bishop The dispute was not whether the Arch-Bishop should execute that office in his own name and right or by allowance and deputation from the Pope nor was there any clause of salvo jure to either of them as yet thought on these were tender points not to be insisted on too roughly at such a time as this when bothsides were so far resolved of a reconciliation before hand There must be a more mind and easie way of composing things then so for as the Pope had rather we should remaine Protestants and so desperate of salvation then that his supremacy should be too farre impeached so Canterbury had rather we should not turne Papists then that his Primacie should be too farre disabled The bargain therefore at first unqualified was thus The Pope demanded to have a Legate in England that should be a Bishop and not favour the oath of Allegiance on the other side the King here would have the oath of allegiance favoured and the Bishops thought it needlesse for the Pope to have any other agents or deputies here besides themselves This difference could hardly be composed all the time of Seig. Panzani but at last the Bishops durst not wholly neglect the Kings interest and so the oath of allegiance was included in the bargain and the King would not oppose the Bishops interest and so a lay Legate was agreed upon and it was for the Popes honour that a Legate should be for the saving of his authority and therefore because the Pope could not withstand both King and Bishops such a Legate was agreed upon as should favour the oath yet be no Bishop It was pressed home to the Pope that the Archbishop and his party were passionate seekers of this Reconciliation and in order and preparation thereunto had already brought in many Rites Ceremonies and Doctrines nearly approching the Church of Rome and that if the work were not speeded during his life time greater difficulties and re-incounters were likely to interpose after his death and yet for a good space the Pope thought the conditions too unequall So little weight and proportion did the soules of millions hold in comparison of one temporall flower of the popes garland and therefore Panzanies skill and industry for a whole yeare could scarce master these animosities and facilitate the businesse for his next successours neverthelesse the Pope at last grew more a Courtier and stooped a little to a smoothy cōpliance by his more crafty ministers Con Rosetti and now the plot of the agreement is perfected and there wants nothing but the putting of it into execution Without a effected but by their utter subversion the wished reconciliation could not yet be consummated and the Puritanes being the greater part of the Kingdome by farre this taske must needs be very cumbersome Confession as our Venetian heard say was a thing held fit to be urged upon us by violence but fear of commotion hindered it and we may very probably conjecture that some other grosser points of Popery had been obtruded upon us also by the higher powers but that the cursed indisposition of the Puritanes was such that there was great hazzard in the attempt Howsoever our stout Prelates were not out of all hope of carrying their designe either by fraud or force or a mixture of both and therefore seeing things so equally poized in England Scotland and Ireland they were resolved that no meere hazzard should wholly deter them from adventuring the utmost Scotland appeared wholly almost puritanicall but to counterpoise that Ireland appeared as generally Popish and for England though the major part there was puritanicall yet the more potent in place and authority and the more exquisite in subtilti● or rather treachery was Popish or Protestant that is inclined to combine with Papists and therfore in all this there was little odds to disanimate them neither was their any feare of forraign forces for under the deceitfull pretence of our head-ship and association the Protestants in Germany and France were allready much weakned and betrayed and made jealous of adhering to us they being brought to such a condition that they could not helpe themselves at home much lesse annoy enemies abroad Also the King of Denmarke and Prince of Aurange though Protestants yet were Polititians and therfore the interest of Royalty would questionles prevaile more with them then the interest of Religion It would please them better to see the Prerogative gained in England to the damage of Religion then religion to prosper by the diminution of Prerogative It onely remains then that in England they plotted Reconciliation be first put in execution and advanced by as slow insensible degrees as may be and great art must be used when Churches Altars c. beg in to be decored be made to believe not that popery is to be induced but that a faire reconciliation between both Churches is to be procured and not that Protestantisme is to be at all in any considerable matter changed but that Puritanisme be exterminated Also when not onely faire allurements but the two great Carnificines of the Land The Star-Chamber and High-Commission have by rigor prevailed as far as may be and when by all other meanes the English are inured and familiarized to some popish rites under the faire pretence of conforming to Reverend Antiquity Then the Scots who are not so apt to be inamoured with the splendor and pomp of Church-men as we are must be by all meanes assailed and urged to union and conformity with the Church of England And because it is expected that the Scots should be more jealous of the least incroachments of Poperie and more adventurous to secure themselves in such jealousie and more unanimous in their adventure therefore their countrey is to be made the first Scene of the war And since it would be too grosse to impeach the whole Nation of Puritanisme therefore their crime must be rebellion and the better to imbarque the English in the quarrell that in the Scots they might destroy themselves some new disguise must be put upon the war it must be divulged that in stead of settling Bishops in their Sees and bringing in the English Lyturgie the King has need to be established in his Throne and Scotland to be preserved from Anarchie All the dispute is Whether Subjects may make resistance by force of Arms against a just pious clement Prince the name of Bellum Episcopale is dis-owned the Title of the Lords annoynted will better support the envie of these broyles and it is suggested to the English that both the Lawes and Natives of Scotland are more Antimonarchicall then those

for as much as to choose good instruments is the noblest testimony of goodnesse and the influence of Princes upon servants is greater then that of servants upon Princes I have heard that the then Earle of Pembrooke being sollicited by other Court Grandees to erter into a confederacie with them about some alteration in Church and State he told them plainly he durst not venture his manner of Wilton in the businesse unlesse Cecyll and Bacon were first hanged at the Court gate and to hang them would be a matter not to be compassed till they with their Rhetoricke in Cheapside should avert the Citizens hearts from them and that he left as a fond conceit Neverthelesse in censure of Queen Elizabeth some have said that she swept the roome cleane but yet left all the dust heaped up behind the doore and did not carry it forth as she ought to have done Their meaning I conceive is that though she much awed and restrained both Prelates and Papists so as they durst not attempt any thing against the constitution of this State during her raigne yet she left them not in so desperate a condition but that they did recover strength and reunite againe after her death This censure seemes to me too harsh for Prelates without the copulation of Papists to gender a filthy spawne upon them are not of any considerable danger and Papists by her long and prosperous raigne were as much quelled and disabled as possible they could be If any dust was left behind the doore 't was because her life-time was not extensive enough for the carrying it forth forthe reduction of Ireland was very late shee scarce survived it and yet to make the Irish Protestants was of farre more difficultie and would consume longer time then to make them subjects The propogation of the true Faith therefore in Ireland was a taske which Queen Elizabeth was of necessity to leave to her successors and 't is very probable had they begun where shee desisted and not deviated from her resolution that Kingdome had long ere this afforded as many Protestants as subjects whereas now it denyes both for doubtlesse Q. Elizabeth at her decease left Ireland in better disposition to conforme to England then she found England in at her sisters decease to revolt from Rome and therefore with the same industry her successors might have done the same in Ireland as she had done in England But alas no such course was takē there we have reason to think rather that Popery was cherished and preserv'd in Ireland to make way for these tragicall divisions then that there was any designe or undertaking to plant Protestantisme in it for the establishing further union between the nations The example of Q. Elizabeth to whom the protection of God was as constant in saving her from the bloody Emissaries of Rome did not work so strongly to animate King Iames as the Apostacie of Henry the French King whom God deserted for his desertion did serve to intimidate him The revolt of Henry the fourth who gained the Title of Great by his warlike atchievements and the horrible conjuration of the Powder Traytors here in England made so strong impression upon the soft and mild temper of King Iames that to temporise a little with Rome for better security of his Person appeared at that time very seasonable wherefore to dally with Antichrist a little letters were written to Cardinall Perrone and answers received about a reconciliation of Religions and in order thereunto the rigour of penall lawes was rebated nay countenance was shewed to Papists the grandour of Prelates and pompe of Ceremonies in the Church began to be affected The neerer also that King Iames his end approached the more it resembled Salomons and grew tainted with the foule symptomes of a declination in so much that scarce any but Papists were admitted to governe his Councels and then the whole Kingdome began to be exposed as a prey to Spanish French Italian pensioners It was well observed by the Duke of Roan that no Prince in Europe so much opposed his owne interests both in civill and religious affaires as King Iames for doubtlesse the Pope by his agents in all Church matters was more potent then the King himselfe and so was Gundamore in matters of State had not the French and Duch and some other Nations interfered with the Pope and Spantard and given gold for some part in us rather to save us then that we should be lost to their enemies doubtlesse we had been disposed of quickly our happinesse was that France was liberall enough to buy us from Spain and Spain liberall enough to buy us from France c. though our misery was that both sides pulled away more from us then they parted withall from themselves And now when three Kingdomes are under the subjection of one Prince who is under the subjection of one lustfull rash young Favourite and that Favourite solely at the devotion of his vitious opprobrious mischievous mother and that mother a meere Votaresse to Rome utterly forfeited resigned and sold to the commands of Jesuites When our miserable Nations are in this ridiculous preposterous posture of government who can wonder that a Spanish or French Match for our Prince should be designed As great a masse of treasure might have been received with a German Lady and that with lesse expence for the portion of Spaine or France can scarse equall the charge of fetching it all that can be said is Pistols and Patachoons are more valuable than Dollars in our judgement Alliance also amongst Princes if it be of any it is of dangerous consequence it is certaine to produce reall enmitie and emulation but it is uncertaine to produce so much as a shadow of amitie and union especially amongst Princes of the Romish Religion If we negotiate concerning a marriage with the Spanish Infanta 't is necessarie that wee keep faire intelligence with France and capitulate strongly with the German Princes and if wee break off with Spaine and treat with the French Lady 't is necessarie that wee enter into a new confederacie with Spaine and prepare a Fleet for the Isle of Rhees So much weaker than cobwebs are the bonds of matrimony amongst ambitious Monarchs Something also may be said against the incestuous extractions of the House of Austria and the Florentine mixtures of the House of Burbon whereas the nobilitie chastitie and beautie of the German Dames hath ever been not only beyond all exception but also beyond all comparison Nothing then but Poperie unlesse wee will add also the manifold mifchiefes of Poperie could be aimed at in a Popish Alliance by those devillish Engineers which were the insolent Lords of our Lords or rather of our Lords Lords Lords And if we desire further satisfaction therein let us consider the substance of the Popes letter written the 20 of April 1623. to our Prince in Spaine and our Princes Answer thereunto as they are faithfully translated and registred by