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order_n	appoint_v	church_n	power_n	2,255	5	5.3261	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A85313	Presbyterial ordination vindicated. In a brief and sober discourse concerning episcopacy, as claiming greater power, and more eminent offices by divine right, then presbyterie. The arguments of the Reverend Bishop Dr Davenant in his determination for such episcopacy are modestly examined. And arguments for the validity of presbyterial ordination added. With a brief discourse concerning imposed forms of prayer, and ceremonies. Written by G.F. minister of the gospel in defence of his own ordination, being questioned, because it was performed by Presbyters.	Firmin, Giles, 1614-1697.	1660 (1660)	Wing F961; Thomason E1045_17; ESTC R208016	42,577	55

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fifty_o year_n pass_v between_o the_o epistle_n of_o paul_n and_o clemens_n to_o the_o corinthian_n clemens_n p._n 8._o mention_n paul_n martyrdom_n but_o in_o all_o his_o epistle_n there_o be_v not_o one_o word_n to_o show_v that_o there_o be_v such_o a_o bishop_n in_o his_o time_n for_o in_o the_o wind_a up_o his_o epistle_n p._n 73._o he_o exhort_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o shall_v have_v be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o not_o a_o word_n of_o such_o a_o bishop_n who_o clemens_n will_v not_o have_v forget_v have_v he_o be_v there_o this_o epistle_n be_v the_o most_o pure_a piece_n of_o all_o antiquity_n next_o the_o scripture_n 2._o be_v the_o dr._n sure_a that_o all_o those_o he_o mention_n be_v bishop_n propriè_fw-la dicti_fw-la he_o say_v indeed_o afterward_o p._n 195._o certum_fw-la