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A19142 A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's vvorship. Or a triplication unto. D. Burgesse his rejoinder for D. Morton The first part Ames, William, 1576-1633. 1633 (1633) STC 555; ESTC S100154 485,880 929

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to_o reason_n against_o it_o that_o the_o rej._n may_v no_o more_o say_v you_o say_v nothing_o to_o disprove_v it_o 6._o first_o the_o only_a place_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n by_o which_o all_o divine_n as_o the_o rejoynder_n speak_v pag._n 75._o prove_v a_o power_n in_o the_o church_n to_o constitute_v ceremony_n be_v 1._o cor._n 14.26.40_o edification_n decency_n order_n but_o the_o apostle_n in_o that_o chapter_n do_v no_o way_n give_v leave_n either_o unto_o our_o or_o any_o other_o church_n to_o constitute_v circumcision_n for_o a_o ceremony_n therefore_o no_o church_n have_v power_n to_o constitute_v circumcission_n for_o a_o ceremony_n for_o order_n and_o decency_n no_o man_n in_o his_o right_a wit_n will_v say_v that_o circumcision_n come_v under_o their_o notion_n and_o as_o for_o edification_n it_o have_v be_v former_o show_v that_o it_o do_v not_o require_v new_o institute_v significant_a ceremony_n much_o less_o a_o reject_a or_o abrogate_a ceremony_n but_o only_o be_v 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and_o decency_n which_o be_v the_o same_o that_o the_o repl._n say_v 3._o some_o toleration_n of_o some_o ceremony_n like_v unto_o the_o jewish_a calvin_n be_v say_v to_o give_v sect_n 14._o but_o that_o which_o he_o speak_v there_o obscure_o he_o do_v in_o this_o 36_o sect_n interpret_v plain_o process_n testor_fw-la eas_fw-la demum_fw-la humanar_n constitutiones_fw-la i_o probate_n quae_fw-la dei_fw-la authoritate_fw-la fundatae_fw-la &_o ex_fw-la scripture_n desumptae_fw-la adeoque_fw-la piorsur_fw-la divinae_fw-la sunt_fw-la exemplur●_n sit_v in_o gericulatione_fw-la d●m_fw-la solemne_v habentur_fw-la process_n i_o witness_v that_o i_o do_v only_o approve_v such_o humane_a constitution_n which_o be_v found_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o god_n and_o take_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n and_o so_o altogether_o divine_a let_v kneel_v in_o solemn_a prayer_n be_v a_o example_n 4._o because_o calvin_n be_v interpret_v out_o of_o himself_o to_o speak_v of_o thing_n necessary_a in_o their_o 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satis_fw-la disertè_fw-la prohibita_fw-la nihilo_fw-la autem_fw-la magis_fw-la &_o de_fw-fr apostoles_n dici_fw-la potest_fw-la act._n 15_o quibus_fw-la nihil_fw-la aliud_fw-la p●opositumerat_fw-la off●nsio●u●_n materiam_fw-la tollendo_fw-la quam_fw-la divinam_fw-la urgero_fw-la legem_fw-la do_v vitanda_fw-la offension_n can_v say_v that_o so_o a_o new_a law_n be_v make_v by_o they_o who_o only_o as_o appear_v go_v about_o to_o prevent_v scandal_n express_o enough_o forbid_v of_o the_o lord_n nor_o can_v ought_v more_o be_v say_v of_o the_o apostle_n act._n 15._o who_o intend_v nothing_o else_o by_o take_v away_o matter_n of_o offence_n then_o to_o urge_v the_o divine_a law_n for_o avoid_v offence_n but_o calvin_n say_v the_o def._n epist_n 379._o teach_v that_o some_o scandalous_a thing_n must_v be_v bear_v with_o and_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o allow_a man_n to_o institute_v ceremony_n unnecessary_a in_o their_o kind_n which_o be_v the_o quaestion_n in_o hand_n 5._o the_o 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therefore_o will_v never_o hurt_v we_o be_v
est_fw-la quam_fw-la declinare_fw-la yet_o the_o rej._n will_v have_v it_o that_o junius_n in_o that_o place_n cont_n 3._o l._n 4._o c._n 17._o sect_n 10._o do_v refute_v this_o distinction_n as_o use_v by_o bell._n mark_v therefore_o what_o be_v bell._n word_n which_o junius_n confute_v viz._n only_o a_o prohibition_n of_o addition_n contrary_a law_n be_v understand_v contrariarum_fw-la deut_n 4_o &_o 1●_n intelligitur_fw-la prohibitio_fw-la solum_fw-la de_fw-la addition_n legum_fw-la contrariarum_fw-la which_o be_v the_o word_n also_o of_o our_o defender_n and_o rejoynder_n cap._n 2._o sect_n 3.4.5_o so_o that_o by_o this_o interpretation_n the_o distinction_n be_v theris_fw-la and_o junius_n confute_v they_o all_o so_o well_o as_o bellarmine_n the_o persuader_n to_o subscription_n be_v also_o confess_v to_o use_v the_o same_o distinction_n but_o in_o another_o meaning_n let_v the_o distinction_n therefore_o pass_v for_o shame_n and_o dispute_v of_o the_o meaning_n but_o the_o 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participate_v of_o it_o by_o eat_v d._n morton_n therefore_o can_v be_v defend_v in_o say_v that_o jewel_n except_v ceremony_n for_o d._n whitaker_n his_o not_o except_v of_o significant_a ceremony_n from_o the_o negative_a argument_n may_v appear_v partly_o by_o his_o negative_a silence_n and_o partly_o by_o his_o express_a assertion_n de_fw-fr sacramentis_fw-la pag._n 203._o for_o unto_o bellarmine_n his_o assertion_n that_o the_o church_n may_v institute_v new_a ceremony_n for_o ornament_n and_o for_o signification_n he_o grant_v that_o of_o ornament_n as_o he_o do_v after_o of_o order_n but_o no_o such_o consent_n be_v give_v of_o signification_n but_o rather_o the_o contrary_a rudes_n non_fw-la sunt_fw-la ceremonijs_fw-la erudiendi_fw-la dedit_fw-la deas_fw-la scripturas_fw-la ut_fw-la ex_fw-la ijs_fw-la rudes_fw-la institutionem_fw-la necess●riam_fw-la haurirent_fw-la so_o in_o oper_n tom_n 1._o pag._n 116._o augustinus_n nos_fw-la illis_fw-la paucissimis_fw-la ceremonijs_fw-la contentos_fw-la esse_fw-la vult_fw-la quae_fw-la in_o canonicis_fw-la scripture_n cont●nentur_fw-la the_o truth_n be_v that_o our_o divine_n do_v ordinary_o reject_v the_o popish_a ceremony_n upon_o this_o ground_n so_o gallasius_n in_o exod._n 22.7_o *_o nihil_fw-la tale_n a_o christo_fw-la aut_fw-la factum_fw-la aut_fw-la institutum_fw-la ergo_fw-la ne_fw-la sapientiores_fw-la nos_fw-la ipso_fw-la &_o apostolis_n before_o arbitremur_fw-la *_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n by_o christ_n either_o do_v or_o institute_v therefore_o let_v we_o not_o deem_v ourselves_o wise_a than_o he_o or_o his_o apostle_n 4._o another_o omission_n whereof_o the_o repl_n be_v accuse_v for_o which_o he_o be_v call_v a_o gentle_a man_n be_v that_o the_o def._n in_o the_o end_n of_o this_o argument_n recall_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n distinguish_v betwixt_o mere_a ceremony_n &_o mix_v by_o mere_a meaning_n altogether_o indifferent_a and_o by_o mix_v some_o way_n forbid_v all_o which_o say_v the_o rejoynder_n the_o gentle_a replier_n pass_v by_o now_o sure_o he_o may_v also_o himself_o have_v pass_v this_o by_o with_o more_o credit_n of_o the_o def._n for_o what_o sense_n be_v in_o such_o a_o state_v question_n whether_o the_o scripture_n do_v condemn_v such_o ceremony_n as_o it_o leave_v indifferent_a or_o only_o those_o which_o it_o some_o way_n forbid_v all_o that_o pass_n by_o may_v see_v that_o this_o be_v not_o worth_a the_o take_n up_o yet_o concern_v the_o mixture_n of_o ceremony_n with_o opinion_n of_o holiness_n justice_n merit_n efficacy_n or_o real_a necessity_n which_o here_o the_o rejoynder_n make_v the_o only_a ground_n of_o forbid_v he_o be_v now_o in_o such_o gentle_a manner_n as_o be_v requisite_a answer_v in_o the_o head_n of_o difference_n betwixt_o popish_a ceremony_n and_o we_o 5._o after_o this_o the_o repl._n be_v charge_v with_o quarrel_v only_o because_o he_o say_v the_o def._n answer_v nothing_o to_o a_o main_a point_n upon_o which_o this_o first_o argument_n in_o the_o abrigement_n do_v depend_v namely_o the_o rule_n of_o ceremony_n that_o they_o shall_v be_v needful_a and_o profitable_a for_o aedification_n the_o more_o comely_a and_o orderly_a performance_n of_o god_n institute_v service_n which_o being_n want_v in_o our_o ceremony_n they_o can_v be_v innocent_a though_o all_o be_v grant_v which_o the_o def._n mainteyn_v and_o why_o be_v this_o a_o quarrel_n the_o repl._n as_o it_o seem_v can_v neither_o by_o speak_v nor_o hold_v his_o peace_n gain_v so_o much_o favour_n with_o the_o rejoynder_n as_o that_o in_o either_o he_o may_v pass_v without_o some_o shrewd_a censorious_a note_n if_o he_o hold_v his_o peace_n he_o be_v a_o gentle_a man_n if_o he_o speak_v he_o be_v a_o quarrel_n but_o what_o be_v the_o reason_n of_o blame_n in_o this_o place_n 1._o the_o defender_n forsooth_o be_v not_o tie_v to_o the_o abridgent_n order_n 2._o it_o be_v idle_a to_o speak_v of_o directive_n rule_v if_o
which_o be_v write_v in_o all_o man_n ●_z the_o church_n have_v for_o ever_o no_o less_o than_o now_o stand_v bind_v to_o observe_v they_o whether_o the_o apostle_n have_v mention_v they_o or_o no._n neither_o say_v he_o therein_o much_o amiss_o except_o that_o same_o no_o less_o bind_v so_o that_o as_o it_o seem_v the_o defend_v and_o rejoynder_n make_v such_o courtesy_n of_o prove_v our_o ceremony_n agreeable_a to_o these_o rule_n can_v very_o hardly_o show_v that_o they_o be_v agreeable_a to_o light_n &_o law_n of_o nature_n after_o this_o light_a skirmish_n about_o 2._o rule_n the_o rejoynder_n sound_v a_o retreat_n and_o say_v he_o will_v refer_v the_o consideration_n of_o the_o agreement_n of_o our_o ceremony_n to_o the_o true_a rule_n unto_o a_o fit_a place_n but_o a_o fit_a place_n can_v scarce_o be_v find_v for_o here_o it_o be_v challenge_v by_o the_o reply_o here_o it_o be_v promise_v by_o the_o rejoynder_n when_o he_o crave_v leave_v to_o speak_v more_o full_o of_o rule_n ●o_o be_v observe_v and_o this_o be_v register_v in_o the_o table_n rule_v about_o ceremony_n show_v in_o a_o digression_n now_o after_o all_o this_o to_o make_v only_o a_o few_o pragmatical_a exception_n against_o 2._o rule_n which_o he_o term_v irregular_a and_o out_o of_o square_a not_o once_o touch_v upon_o the_o rule_n which_o the_o reply_o require_v satisfaction_n about_o v._o 13._o if_o our_o ceremony_n be_v needful_a and_o profitable_a for_o the_o aedification_n of_o the_o people_n by_o the_o more_o comely_a and_o orderly_a performance_n of_o that_o service_n whi●h_o god_n have_v express_o praescribe_v in_o his_o word_n and_o so_o to_o put_v of_o the_o business_n unto_o another_o invisible_a and_o uncertain_a place_n this_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o to_o be_v the_o def._n his_o second_o in_o the_o fault_n he_o be_v accuse_v for_o but_o not_o in_o relieve_v of_o he_o at_o all_o it_o be_v not_o for_o nothing_o that_o he_o call_v the_o challenge_n a_o quarrel_n as_o insinuate_v it_o be_v not_o a_o thing_n fit_v to_o be_v meddle_v in_o the_o truth_n be_v the_o rej._n in_o his_o conscience_n hold_v our_o cerem_fw-la incommodious_a or_o inexpedient_a though_o not_o simple_o unlawful_a and_o therefore_o can_v find_v no_o place_n to_o show_v that_o they_o be_v needful_a and_o profitable_a for_o aedification_n i_o doubt_v whether_o another_o special_a command_v from_o the_o king_n will_v bring_v he_o to_o print_v a_o treatise_n about_o that_o question_n sect_n 16._o concern_v order_n and_o decency_n 1._o cor._n 14.40_o the_o only_a place_n by_o the_o rejoynder_n his_o confession_n for_o ecclesiastical_a power_n in_o constitute_v ecclesiastical_a ceremony_n the_o defender_n begin_v to_o confronte_n and_o confute_v our_o tenant_n neither_o bring_v nor_o can_v bring_v any_o scripture_n for_o the_o authority_n of_o church_n to_o ordain_v ceremony_n but_o only_o this_o one_o 1._o cor._n 14._o he_o say_v in_o deed_n that_o he_o name_v only_o this_o place_n not_o to_o 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●_o e._n ut_fw-la primo_fw-la unus_fw-la &_o posteà_fw-la a●rus_fw-la loquatur_fw-la &_o perparte_v etc._n etc._n and_o as_o i_o amperswade_v more_o than_o either_o def._n or_o rejoynder_n can_v bring_v so_o to_o argue_v from_o this_o place_n as_o he_o do_v among_o the_o ancient_a schoolman_n it_o be_v hard_o to_o find_v where_o any_o one_o of_o they_o do_v conclude_v ceremony_n proper_a to_o religion_n out_o of_o this_o place_n thomas_n in_o his_o comm._n upon_o it_o do_v so_o interpret_v it_o that_o he_o leave_v no_o ground_n for_o any_o such_o conclusion_n honest_o 1._o e._n while_o one_o speak_v that_o other_o be_v silent_a paraph_n quemadmodum_fw-la praescripsi_fw-la cuncta_fw-la siant_fw-la cum_fw-la deco●o_fw-la &_o ordine_fw-la n._n quid_fw-la ●urpstudinis_fw-la aut_fw-la tum●ltus_fw-la exoriatur_fw-la paraph_n and_o that_o woman_n speak_v not_o in_o church_n in_o order_n 1._o e._n that_o first_o one_o and_o then_o another_o speak_v etc_n erasmus_n consent_v decent_o and_o in_o 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