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england_n may_v as_o well_o be_v consider_v as_o one_o in_o unity_n of_o profession_n without_o any_o new_a motherhood_n as_o all_o the_o latin_a school_n of_o england_n one_o in_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o same_o grammar_n or_o all_o gallenicall_a or_o platonical_a school_n one_o in_o their_o kind_n 4._o a_o representative_a mother_n be_v the_o image_n of_o a_o mother_n and_o a_o image_n with_o command_v authority_n in_o religion_n without_o god_n command_n 〈◊〉_d quod_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la siâ—is_fw-la repraesentativa_fw-la libenter_fw-la credâ—mus_fw-la vera_fw-la enim_fw-la non_fw-la estu_fw-ge sed_fw-la â—sten_v aâ—te_fw-la qâ—aso_fw-it â—â—de_fw-it â—orâ—â—ec_fw-la nomen_fw-la qui_fw-la hoc_fw-la nomintâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d quis_fw-la â—acundâ—_fw-la &_o ceâ—spirandi_fw-la â—obis_fw-la potestatem_fw-la dedit_fw-la qâ—is_fw-la condeâ—di_fw-la canon_n &_o decreta_fw-la verbo_fw-la des_fw-mi disâ—â—â—miâ—iâ—_n vobiâ—tus_fw-la fecit_fw-la quiâ—_n ut_fw-la ista_fw-la humeâ—is_fw-la hominum_fw-la 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to_o any_o such_o purpose_n by_o the_o father_n chrysostome_n expound_v it_o of_o moral_a virtuous_a carriage_n opposite_a unto_o such_o perverse_a walk_n as_o if_o a_o man_n go_v upon_o his_o hand_n with_o his_o foot_n upward_o ambrose_n extend_v it_o no_o further_o then_o to_o thing_n mention_v in_o that_o chapter_n secundum_fw-la ordinem_fw-la suppra_fw-la dictum_fw-la oecumenius_n also_o make_v it_o a_o recapitulation_n of_o thing_n former_o mention_v of_o speak_v by_o course_n and_o woman_n be_v cover_v etc_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o summary_o gather_v together_o all_o that_o go_v before_o basil_n expound_v it_o of_o time_n and_o place_n ed._n gr_n pag._n 530._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o of_o proportion_n to_o be_v observe_v betwixt_o divers_a member_n pag._n 459._o these_o be_v some_o father_n etc._n henâ—stè_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d ut_fw-la uno_fw-la oquente_a alij_fw-la taccant_a &_o mulieres_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la loquantur_fw-la &c_n &c_n secundum_fw-la ordinem_fw-la â—_o e._n ut_fw-la primo_fw-la unus_fw-la &_o posteà _fw-la aâ—rus_fw-la loquatur_fw-la &_o perparte_v etc._n etc._n and_o as_o i_o amperswade_v more_o than_o either_o def._n or_o rejoynder_n can_v bring_v so_o to_o argue_v from_o this_o place_n as_o he_o do_v among_o the_o ancient_a schoolman_n it_o be_v hard_o to_o find_v where_o any_o one_o of_o they_o do_v conclude_v ceremony_n proper_a to_o religion_n out_o of_o this_o place_n thomas_n in_o his_o comm._n upon_o it_o do_v so_o interpret_v it_o that_o he_o leave_v no_o ground_n for_o any_o such_o conclusion_n honest_o 1._o e._n while_o one_o speak_v that_o other_o be_v silent_a paraph_n quemadmodum_fw-la praescripsi_fw-la cuncta_fw-la siant_fw-la cum_fw-la decoâ—o_fw-la &_o ordine_fw-la n._n quid_fw-la â—urpstudinis_fw-la aut_fw-la tumâ—ltus_fw-la exoriatur_fw-la paraph_n and_o that_o woman_n speak_v not_o in_o church_n in_o order_n 1._o e._n that_o first_o one_o and_o then_o another_o speak_v etc_n erasmus_n consent_v 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very_o grievous_a superstition_n now_o the_o very_a occasion_n also_o of_o evil_n be_v to_o be_v shun_v to_o what_o end_n then_o shall_v these_o be_v thrust_v upon_o the_o church_n from_o who_o no_o profit_n can_v be_v hope_v very_o much_o evil_a may_v come_v for_o this_o be_v to_o tempt_v god_n your_o famous_a majesty_n may_v well_o remember_v that_o not_o without_o cause_n it_o be_v write_v he_o that_o touch_v pitch_n shall_v be_v defile_v with_o it_o that_o the_o apostle_n have_v reason_n to_o command_v that_o we_o shall_v purge_v out_o the_o old_a leaven_n that_o a_o little_a leaven_n leaven_v the_o whole_a lump_n and_o that_o hosea_n do_v not_o foolish_o reprove_v the_o jew_n because_o they_o translate_v and_o bring_v a_o young_a graft_n of_o superstition_n out_o of_o israel_n into_o their_o own_o garden_n that_o be_v the_o true_a church_n we_o ought_v most_o religious_a queen_n to_o have_v nothing_o at_o all_o to_o do_v with_o the_o papist_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n save_v in_o those_o thing_n which_o they_o have_v common_a with_o the_o apostle_n why_o i_o beseech_v you_o be_v some_o king_n otherwise_o godly_a reprove_v and_o blame_v in_o the_o scripture_n that_o they_o have_v not_o take_v away_o church_n or_o temple_n for_o divine_a service_n in_o the_o mountain_n which_o be_v build_v by_o holy_a father_n ere_o the_o build_n of_o the_o temple_n in_o which_o the_o lord_n be_v wont_a to_o be_v worship_v sure_o because_o the_o temple_n be_v now_o build_v and_o ordain_v for_o divine_a service_n god_n will_v not_o have_v any_o footstep_n of_o any_o other_o chapel_n at_o all_o to_o be_v extant_a therefore_o also_o when_o once_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n be_v manifest_v the_o ceremony_n and_o garment_n of_o aaron_n ought_v not_o any_o more_o to_o take_v place_n for_o this_o cause_n the_o apostle_n be_v upon_o good_a ground_n careful_a that_o after_o christ_n ascension_n they_o shall_v so_o be_v take_v away_o that_o no_o relic_n of_o they_o remain_v and_o if_o they_o take_v they_o away_o holy_o unho_o have_v the_o papist_n call_v they_o back_o again_o now_o whether_o be_v the_o better_a to_o â—ollow_v the_o godly_a simplicity_n of_o the_o apostle_n or_o the_o ungodly_a pomp_n of_o the_o papist_n who_o be_v ignorant_a this_o recall_v of_o such_o popish_a garment_n your_o gracious_a majesty_n may_v believe_v i_o will_v be_v a_o great_a evil_n then_o peradventure_o it_o may_v be_v see_v even_o to_o very_o wise_a man_n at_o the_o first_o blush_n for_o i_o think_v i_o see_v and_o hear_v the_o monk_n cry_v out_o with_o very_o loud_a voice_n in_o the_o pulpit_n both_o confirm_v their_o follower_n in_o their_o ungodly_a religion_n by_o the_o example_n of_o your_o gracious_a majesty_n and_o also_o say_v what_o do_v not_o even_o the_o queen_n of_o england_n also_o a_o most_o
2._o concern_v some_o accusation_n charge_v upon_o the_o reply_o about_o this_o argument_n pag._n 1._o section_n 3.4.5_o concern_v the_o faithfulness_n of_o christ_n and_o moses_n heb._n 3.2_o p._n 4._o section_n 6._o and_o 7._o of_o david_n purpose_n to_o build_v a_o temple_n 2._o sam._n 7._o 1._o chron._n 17._o p._n 19_o section_n 12._o concern_v that_o phrase_n jere._n 7.31_o you_o do_v that_o which_o i_o command_v not_o p._n 23._o section_n 13.14_o concern_v the_o ancient_a father_n argue_v negative_o from_o scripture_n p._n 29._o section_n 15._o concern_v protestant_n argue_v negative_o from_o scripture_n p._n 34._o concern_v rule_n for_o ceremony_n p._n 47._o section_n 16._o concern_v order_n and_o decentie_n p._n 51._o concern_v a_o argument_n against_o our_o ceremony_n out_o of_o 1._o cor._n 14._o p._n 56._o section_n 17._o concern_v the_o ancient_a father_n allow_v human_a ceremony_n p._n 81._o section_n 18.19_o concern_v protestant_n witness_v against_o the_o negative_a argument_n from_o scripture_n p._n 87._o section_n 20.21_o concern_v reason_n against_o the_o negative_a argument_n from_o scripture_n p._n 99_o section_n 22._o concern_v the_o assumption_n of_o the_o main_a argument_n handle_v in_o this_o chapter_n p._n 107._o a_o table_n of_o the_o second_o chapter_n concern_v worship_n section_n 1._o of_o worship_n distinguish_v into_o proper_a or_o essential_a and_o unproper_a or_o accidental_a p._n 110._o section_n 2._o concern_v add_v to_o god_n worship_n p._n 115._o section_n 6._o concern_v our_o divine_n judgement_n about_o ceremonious_a worship_n invent_v by_o man_n p._n 125._o section_n 7._o concern_v vrsines_n and_o zanchies_n judgement_n about_o will-worship_n p._n 149._o section_n 8.9_o concern_v m_n r._n bradshaw_n argument_n to_o prove_v our_o ceremony_n impose_v as_o part_n of_o god_n worship_n p._n 158._o section_n 10.11.12.13.14_o concern_v some_o relic_n of_o argument_n father_v upon_o m_n r._n hy._n and_o other_o p._n 178._o a_o table_n of_o the_o three_o chapter_n about_o the_o significant_a nature_n of_o our_o ceremony_n section_n 1._o and_o 2_o concern_v certain_a miscelaneal_a notion_n and_o testimony_n against_o human_a religious_a significant_a ceremony_n p._n 209_o section_n 3._o concern_v augustin_n p._n 222._o section_n 4._o the_o judgement_n of_o protestant_n divine_v concern_v significant_a ceremony_n p._n 230._o section_n 5._o concern_v the_o wrong_n do_v to_o god_n sacrament_n by_o human_a significant_a ceremony_n p._n 253._o section_n 6._o concern_v jewish_a ceremony_n p._n 266._o a_o letter_n of_o d._n humphrey_n to_o the_o bishop_n p._n 269._o concern_v circumcision_n p._n 274._o section_n 7._o concern_v image_n p._n 283._o concern_v oil_n light_n spital_n cream_n and_o h._n water_n p._n 291._o concern_v the_o 2._o commandment_n p._n 296._o section_n 8._o concern_v the_o oath-gesture_n of_o abraham_n servant_n p._n 304._o section_n 10._o concern_v suarez_n the_o jesuit_n his_o state_v the_o controversy_n betwixt_o protestant_n and_o papist_n p._n 309._o section_n 11._o concern_v the_o feast_n of_o purim_n p._n 315._o section_n 12._o concern_v the_o feast_n of_o dedication_n joh._n 10.22.23_o p._n 318._o section_n 15.16_o concern_v the_o altar_n of_o jordan_n p._n 322._o section_n 17.18.19.20.21_o concern_v the_o brazen_a altar_n build_v by_o solomon_n 1._o king_n 8.64_o p._n 328._o section_n 22._o concern_v synagogue_n p._n 332._o section_n 27._o concern_v the_o kiss_n of_o charity_n p._n 340._o section_n 28._o concern_v woman_n veil_n p._n 345._o section_n 29._o concern_v the_o ancient_a custom_n of_o significant_a ceremony_n among_o christian_n p._n 350._o section_n 31._o concern_v swear_n upon_o a_o book_n p._n 357._o section_n 32._o concern_v the_o lords-daye_n temple_n and_o ceremonial_a festival_n p._n 358._o a_o table_n of_o the_o four_o chapter_n concern_v idolatrous_a ceremony_n section_n 1._o about_o the_o form_n of_o this_o argument_n and_o the_o general_n answer_v give_v thereto_o p._n 366._o section_n 2._o concern_v the_o second_o commandment_n and_o scripture_n belong_v to_o it_o as_o leu._n 18.3_o etc._n etc._n p._n 369._o section_n 3._o concern_v pillar_n leu._n 26.1_o and_o the_o name_n baal_n hos._n 2.16.17_o p._n 379._o section_n 4._o concern_v the_o aequitie_n of_o the_o commandment_n former_o mention_v and_o calvin_n judgement_n about_o it_o p._n 384._o section_n 5._o concern_v daniel_n abstinence_n dan._n 1.8_o p._n 393._o section_n 6._o concern_v hezekias_o his_o break_v down_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n p._n 394._o a_o piece_n of_o a_o comparison_n betwixt_o the_o primitive_a and_o the_o present_a english_a church_n p._n 402._o in_o organical_a music_n p._n 404._o chancelour_n commissary_n etc._n etc._n p._n 406._o pompous_a bishop_n p._n 408._o call_v of_o minister_n p._n 411._o minister_n go_v to_o law_n for_o their_o place_n p._n 415._o pluralist_n nonresidents_a and_o dumb_a minister_n p._n 416._o simony_n p._n 418._o profane_a contemner_n of_o religion_n member_n of_o the_o church_n p._n 420._o spiritual_a court_n p._n 420._o take_v of_o money_n for_o ordination_n citation_n absolution_n and_o change_v of_o paenance_n p._n 422._o section_n 7.8_o etc._n etc._n and_o 20._o concern_v counsel_n and_o ancient_a writer_n p._n 423._o with_o a_o digression_n about_o the_o difference_n of_o our_o differ_v from_o the_o papist_n in_o surplice_n p._n 426._o cross_v p._n 427._o kneel_v p._n 428._o concern_v protestant_n divine_n p._n 453._o section_n 21._o concern_v the_o assumption_n namely_o that_o our_o ceremony_n be_v human_a unnecessary_a and_o idolatrous_a p._n 475._o section_n 22._o concern_v the_o cross_n popish_a and_o english_a p._n 489._o section_n 23._o concern_v scripture_n proof_n for_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o human_a ceremony_n idolatrous_o abuse_v p._n 491._o section_n 24._o proof_n of_o the_o same_o out_o of_o ancient_a father_n p._n 499._o where_o answer_n be_v give_v to_o b._n juel_n allegation_n for_o the_o antiquity_n of_o distinct_a ministerial_a garment_n p._n 503._o section_n 25.26.27.28_o concern_v d._n morton_n reason_n for_o human_a ceremony_n idolatrous_o abuse_v where_o comparison_n be_v make_v betwixt_o popish_a and_o pagan_a idolatry_n and_o something_o be_v say_v of_o d._n burges_n his_o intemperate_a accusation_n p._n 511._o section_n 29.30_o concern_v our_o confession_n and_o practice_n make_v for_o such_o ceremony_n p._n 524._o a_o postscript_n p._n â—29_n finis_fw-la fault_n escape_v thus_o to_o be_v correct_v pag._n 11._o l._n 5._o for_o answer_n that_o r._n answer_n say_v that_o p._n 25._o l._n 2._o for_o adventious_a r._n adventitious_a p._n 55._o l._n 4._o for_o esius_n r._n estius_n p._n 58._o l._n 12._o r._n wherein_o it_o differ_v p._n 62._o l._n 12._o r._n all_o that_o the_o rejoynder_n ibid._n l._n 30._o r._n constitution_n p._n 75._o l._n 23._o for_o unto_o r._n the._n p._n 98._o l._n 7._o for_o but_o of_o god_n word_n r._n out_o of_o god_n word_n p._n 108._o l._n 1._o r._n here_o be_v say_v p._n 112._o l._n 1._o for_o as_o black_a r_o as_o a_o black_a p._n 118._o l._n 4._o for_o pretend_v r_o pretend_v p._n 126._o l._n 14._o for_o that_o be_v r._n that_o it_o be_v p._n 106._o l._n 20._o for_o which_o be_v not_o r._n which_o be_v not_o so_o p._n 129._o l._n 17._o for_o may_v r._n way_n p._n 143._o l._n 4._o for_o simple_a r._n simple_o p._n 143._o l._n 29._o for_o a_o r._n u._n p._n 172._o l._n 5._o for_o as_o that_o r._n but_o that_o p._n 186._o l._n 18._o for_o she_o r._n the._n p._n 193._o l._n 2._o for_o many_o of_o godly_a r._n many_o godly_a p._n 210._o l._n 16._o r._n how_o little_a soever_o p._n 214._o l._n 26._o r._n representation_n p._n 215._o l._n 9_o r._n attention_n p._n 224._o l._n 20._o r._n never_o hear_v of_o ibid._n l._n 23._o r._n be_v in_o augustine_n phrase_n p._n 225._o l._n 24._o r._n idol_n p._n 227._o l._n 11._o r._n church_n yard_n l._n 26._o r._n novalists_n p._n 231._o l._n 7._o for_o he_o that_o with_o r._n he_o that_o weigh_v p_o 238._o l._n 28._o r._n ox_n p._n 240._o l._n 1._o for_o how_o r._n what_o p._n 259._o l_o 27._o r._n gibbet_n p._n 268._o l._n 3._o for_o a_o more_o r._n more_o l._n 4._o for_o of_o r._n for_o p._n 269._o l._n 20_o for_o peach_v r._n preach_v p._n 271_o l._n 12._o for_o devise_v singulary_o r._n devise_v out_o of_o singularity_n l_o 22._o r._n fall_v together_o by_o the_o ear_n p._n 272._o l._n 1._o r._n canem_fw-la twice_o p._n 285._o l._n 29._o for_o they_o be_v in_o our_o r._n they_o be_v in_o this_o our_o p._n 325._o l._n 23._o for_o and_z r._n have_v p._n 360_o l._n 4._o for_o those_o that_o r._n not_o those_o that_o p._n 362._o l._n 20._o for_o aod_a r._n and_o p._n 368._o l._n 24._o for_o significent_fw-la r._n sufficient_a p._n 371._o l._n 2d_o for_o makeng_n r._n make_v p._n 374._o l._n 14._o for_o falimear_v r._n familiar_a p._n 417._o l._n 11._o for_o
clouse_a r._n close_o p._n 227._o l_o 7._o for_o linen_n pontifical_a r._n lin_v be_v but_o a_o more_o ponteficall_a ibid._n l._n 8._o for_o and_z many_o time_n r._n be_v many_o time_n p._n 452._o l._n 26._o r._n imposer_n p._n 456._o l._n 20._o for_o hold_n r._n hold_v p._n 479._o l._n 13._o for_o cliving_a r._n cleave_v p._n 518._o l._n 22._o r._n diameter_o for_o diademiter_o p._n 521._o l._n 1._o for_o crack_a r._n crack_n l_o 25._o for_o forbid_v r._n forbid_v the_o dyspute_n about_o humane_a ceremony_n chap._n i._o of_o the_o negative_a argument_n from_o scripture_n sect_n 2._o my_o purpose_n be_v not_o to_o insist_v upon_o word_n &_o circumstantial_a exception_n as_o be_v of_o little_a moment_n but_o only_o to_o discuss_v the_o material_a point_n that_o i_o meet_v with_o in_o their_o order_n yet_o because_o the_o rej._n come_v on_o in_o the_o beginning_n with_o such_o a_o heat_n if_o the_o repl._n have_v marvellous_o offend_v almost_o in_o every_o word_n i_o will_v take_v his_o first_o accusation_n though_o not_o â—uche_v material_a into_o due_a consideration_n 1._o the_o repl._n make_v only_o mention_v of_o the_o all-suffiâ—â—encie_a or_o perfect_a fullness_n of_o the_o scripture_n heerat_fw-la the_o rej._n â—raesently_o complain_v of_o abuse_n misreport_v and_o maâ—â—ng_v a_o false_a show_n as_o if_o say_v he_o we_o deny_v the_o perfect_a â—â—lnesse_n of_o the_o scripture_n etc_n now_o 1._o the_o repl._n say_v no_o such_o thing_n but_o the_o contrary_a rather_o when_o he_o observe_v that_o the_o same_o be_v grant_v by_o the_o def._n as_o it_o be_v require_v by_o those_o he_o write_v against_o 2._o if_o he_o have_v say_v that_o thâ—_n def._n and_o rej._n also_o do_v deny_v the_o perfect_a fullness_n of_o scripture_n in_o regard_n of_o ceremonial_a worship_n he_o have_v sayda_o more_o than_o truth_n for_o they_o teach_v that_o some_o such_o worship_n be_v lawful_a and_o good_a which_o be_v not_o teach_v 〈◊〉_d scripture_n that_o many_o teach_v ceremony_n which_o goâ—_n never_o institute_v may_v by_o man_n be_v institute_v and_o bring_v into_o worship_n image_n themselves_o not_o except_v that_o addition_n to_o god_n word_n so_o they_o be_v not_o contrary_a mâ—â—_n and_o aught_o to_o be_v make_v the_o sum_n of_o their_o doctrine_n in_o this_o point_n be_v that_o which_o m_n r._n hooker_n set_v down_o p._n 125._o mucke_n the_o church_n of_o god_n shall_v always_o need_v which_o 〈◊〉_d scripture_n teach_v not_o neither_o do_v it_o help_v which_o the_o rej._n add_v 〈◊〉_d scripture_n be_v as_o perfe_v in_o give_v general_a rule_n as_o it_o shall_v bâ—_n in_o set_v down_o of_o all_o particular_a instance_n for_o 1._o this_o 〈◊〉_d not_o general_o true_a because_o general_a rule_n make_v only_a thâ—_n proposition_n tend_v to_o particular_n and_o the_o assumption_n 〈◊〉_d leave_v undetermined_a they_o therefore_o do_v not_o so_o full_o anâ—_n perfect_o infer_v the_o particular_n as_o if_o they_o be_v sâ—â—_n down_o general_n rule_n be_v give_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n foâ—_n civil_a policy_n or_o government_n of_o common_a wealth_n yeâ—_n no_o man_n i_o think_v will_v say_v that_o civil_a policy_n be_v so_o ful_o and_o perfect_o teach_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n as_o it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d the_o old_a or_o as_o religious_a worship_n be_v now_o in_o the_o new_a the_o rule_n for_o clean_a beast_n say_v the_o rej._n that_o they_o be_v sucâ—_n as_o chew_v the_o cud_n and_o divide_v the_o hoof_n be_v as_o perfect_v as_o 〈◊〉_d such_o beast_n have_v be_v name_v true_o but_o here_o no_o determination_n of_o the_o assumption_n be_v necessary_a but_o such_o the_o beast_n themselves_o do_v make_v to_o every_o man_n that_o be_v â—ot_n blind_a without_o any_o institution_n of_o man_n it_o be_v as_o â—ow_o it_o be_v in_o bread_n &_o wine_n for_o the_o lord_n supper_n which_o â—e_v appoint_v in_o general_a without_o name_v of_o wheat_n 〈◊〉_d mislen_a bread_n or_o french_a spanish_a rhenish_a italiâ—â—_n greek_a wine_n but_o cross_n and_o surplice_n i_o hope_v be_v â—ot_n so_o in_o general_n appoint_v the_o general_a rule_n which_o 〈◊〉_d rej._n ground_v our_o ceremony_n upon_o be_v let_v all_o â—â—ings_n be_v do_v to_o edification_n with_o order_n and_o decency_n now_o these_o rule_n be_v such_o say_v m_n r._n hooker_n p._n 95._o as_o stand_v light_n of_o reason_n and_o nature_n to_o be_v observe_v though_o the_o scripture_n have_v never_o mention_v they_o so_o that_o in_o they_o there_o be_v no_o â—â—che_a perfection_n of_o scripture_n for_o particular_n as_o if_o the_o particulars_n have_v be_v name_v 2._o betwixt_o these_o general_n use_v such_o particular_n in_o quaestion_n there_o must_v come_v a_o human_a institution_n such_o as_o to_o make_v the_o example_n â—gree_n if_o it_o have_v be_v praescribe_v in_o the_o old_a test._n only_a â—ith_n clean_a beast_n shall_v be_v use_v in_o sacrifice_n and_o leave_v to_o â—â—e_z priest_n for_o to_o determine_v what_o kind_n of_o beast_n shall_v 〈◊〉_d or_o hold_v to_o be_v clean_o 2._o a_o untruth_n be_v charge_v upon_o the_o reply_o in_o that_o 〈◊〉_d say_v nothing_o be_v deny_v by_o the_o def._n in_o the_o 2._o section_n now_o let_v any_o man_n read_v over_o the_o section_n and_o he_o shall_v â—inde_v nothing_o deny_v his_o answer_n be_v these_o we_o due_a accept_v of_o your_o distinction_n only_o the_o second_o member_n must_v be_v exâ—ended_v to_o general_a rule_n permission_n common_a aequitie_n you_o must_v â—nd_v unto_o this_o distinction_n which_o when_o you_o do_v not_o you_o conâ—ute_v yourselves_o be_v here_o any_o thing_n deny_v yea_o say_v the_o rej._n the_o major_n be_v deny_v because_o it_o be_v show_v that_o something_o be_v warrant_v which_o be_v not_o praescribe_v the_o major_n be_v scripture_n condemn_v that_o which_o be_v do_z either_o against_o or_o without_o warrant_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n especial_o in_o matter_n of_o god_n service_n let_v any_o man_n of_o common_a reason_n and_o indifferency_n judge_n whether_o this_o be_v contradict_v by_o that_o something_o be_v warrant_v which_o be_v not_o praescribe_v 3._o the_o replier_n be_v taunt_v with_o i_o know_v not_o what_o fault_n for_o say_v here_o that_o distinction_n to_o be_v grant_v which_o after_o he_o deni_v to_o be_v the_o nonconformist_n as_o if_o in_o dispute_n it_o be_v not_o usual_a for_o one_o party_n to_o observe_v what_o the_o adversary_n do_v grant_v himself_o though_o he_o himself_o do_v not_o own_o it_o the_o rej._n may_v have_v spare_v all_o these_o word_n of_o this_o section_n but_o that_o he_o affect_v to_o say_v much_o upon_o little_a or_o no_o occasion_n that_o his_o answer_n may_v seem_v abundant_o complete_a sect_n 3.4.5_o concern_v the_o faithfulness_n of_o christ_n and_o moses_n heb._n 3.2_o 1._o the_o repl._n once_o for_o all_o note_v that_o the_o def._n his_o distribute_v of_o our_o confirmation_n from_o scripture_n father_n and_o protestant_a divine_n as_o if_o they_o be_v like_a in_o the_o intend_a confirmation_n whereas_o the_o late_a be_v only_a use_v by_o occasion_n of_o perverse_a praejudice_n in_o our_o adversary_n who_o require_v such_o thing_n and_o also_o in_o constant_a still_v the_o father_n testimony_n judgement_n and_o other_o confession_n the_o repl._n i_o say_v note_v only_o that_o this_o be_v some_o wrong_n except_o it_o be_v only_o idle_a rhetoric_n for_o this_o the_o rej._n fly_v in_o his_o face_n say_v he_o note_v himself_o a_o egregious_a wrangler_n his_o note_n be_v notorious_a cavil_n and_o wrangle_v and_o show_v what_o spirit_n he_o be_v of_o i_o will_v not_o say_v this_o show_v what_o spirit_n d._n b._n be_v of_o for_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o his_o spirit_n be_v better_a than_o here_o be_v show_v yet_o this_o show_v what_o spirit_n he_o take_v upon_o he_o with_o the_o person_n of_o a_o rejoiner_n be_v it_o so_o great_a a_o fault_n to_o suspect_v the_o def._n of_o some_o wrong-doeing_a or_o of_o use_v rhetoric_n without_o any_o moment_n in_o variation_n of_o phrase_n to_o do_v some_o wrong_n unto_o a_o adversary_n in_o propound_v his_o allegation_n after_o another_o manner_n than_o he_o mean_v be_v so_o ordinary_a that_o the_o suspicion_n of_o it_o and_o that_o with_o exception_n can_v be_v account_v so_o heinous_a a_o crime_n as_o those_o tooth_a term_n import_v praejudice_n be_v as_o common_a fault_n and_o all_o praejudice_n be_v some_o way_n perverse_a the_o rej._n after_o p._n 461._o accuse_v all_o those_o of_o averseness_n by_o distraction_n stupidity_n or_o praejudice_n which_o do_v not_o feel_v that_o organiall_a music_n work_v much_o upon_o their_o affection_n in_o and_z to_o god_n worship_n though_o he_o know_v as_o good_a man_n as_o our_o adversary_n deny_v it_o yet_o he_o will_v not_o have_v we_o nor_o will_v we_o from_o thence_o gather_v what_o spirit_n he_o be_v of_o rhetoric_n be_v no_o more_o a_o ill_a word_n
est_fw-la quam_fw-la declinare_fw-la yet_o the_o rej._n will_v have_v it_o that_o junius_n in_o that_o place_n cont_n 3._o l._n 4._o c._n 17._o sect_n 10._o do_v refute_v this_o distinction_n as_o use_v by_o bell._n mark_v therefore_o what_o be_v bell._n word_n which_o junius_n confute_v viz._n only_o a_o prohibition_n of_o addition_n contrary_a law_n be_v understand_v contrariarum_fw-la deut_n 4_o &_o 1â—_n intelligitur_fw-la prohibitio_fw-la solum_fw-la de_fw-la addition_n legum_fw-la contrariarum_fw-la which_o be_v the_o word_n also_o of_o our_o defender_n and_o rejoynder_n cap._n 2._o sect_n 3.4.5_o so_o that_o by_o this_o interpretation_n the_o distinction_n be_v theris_fw-la and_o junius_n confute_v they_o all_o so_o well_o as_o bellarmine_n the_o persuader_n to_o subscription_n be_v also_o confess_v to_o use_v the_o same_o distinction_n but_o in_o another_o meaning_n let_v the_o distinction_n therefore_o pass_v for_o shame_n and_o dispute_v of_o the_o meaning_n but_o the_o meaning_n express_v by_o the_o rejoynder_n be_v the_o very_a same_o with_o we_o save_v that_o they_o differ_v in_o the_o conclusion_n deduct_v from_o it_o the_o altercation_n therefore_o which_o the_o rejoynder_n add_v about_o some_o speech_n of_o m_o r._n cartwrite_v be_v not_o worth_a the_o answer_n the_o plain_a truth_n be_v that_o this_o distinction_n be_v ordinary_o use_v by_o our_o divine_n against_o the_o papist_n even_o in_o case_n of_o ceremony_n d._n fulke_o against_o the_o rhemist_n on_o mat_n 15.9_o of_o popish_a tradition_n some_o be_v repugnant_a to_o tâ—e_v law_n of_o god_n and_o some_o be_v beside_o they_o as_o idle_a and_o unprofitable_a ceremony_n it_o be_v therefore_o but_o a_o affect_a quarrel_n which_o the_o def._n pick_v and_o the_o rejoynder_n maintain_v about_o these_o term_n as_o if_o they_o have_v any_o reflection_n upon_o the_o popish_a difference_n betwixt_o mortal_a and_o venial_a sin_n nay_o in_o this_o fashion_n the_o def._n and_o rejoynder_n may_v accuse_v our_o bless_a martyr_n of_o symbolise_v with_o the_o papist_n that_o be_v the_o murderer_n of_o they_o for_o they_o be_v wont_a to_o use_v this_o distinction_n in_o the_o same_o manner_n that_o we_o do_v so_o heavenly_a â—radford_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o university_n of_o cambridge_n these_o which_o a_o little_a after_o he_o appli_v to_o romish_a rag_n and_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o walden_n extend_v they_o by_o name_n to_o ceremony_n opinion_n be_v not_o only_o beside_o god_n word_n but_o even_o direct_o against_o it_o it_o be_v therefore_o more_o than_o time_n for_o the_o def._n and_o rejoynder_n to_o pull_v in_o the_o horn_n of_o this_o dodmon_n accusation_n and_o confess_v that_o they_o be_v unseasonablie_o and_o rash_o put_v forth_o upon_o inconsiderate_a fantasy_n easy_o utter_v but_o hardly_o excuse_v sect_n 13.14_o concern_v the_o ancient_a father_n argue_v negative_o from_o scripture_n 1._o to_o diverse_a sentence_n of_o ancient_a writer_n about_o this_o matter_n allege_v the_o general_a answer_n be_v give_v 1._o that_o they_o speak_v of_o thing_n contrary_a to_o scripture_n which_o when_o the_o repl._n grant_v complain_v of_o the_o def._n his_o wilful_a mistake_n or_o misinterpreting_a our_o meaning_n the_o rejoynder_n lest_o he_o shall_v seem_v less_o wilful_a repeat_v the_o same_o imputation_n which_o yet_o he_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o replier_n own_o confession_n what_o shall_v a_o man_n say_v to_o such_o rejoyner_n that_o know_v full_a well_o our_o meaning_n and_o yet_o will_v never_o leave_v threap_v another_o meaning_n upon_o we_o we_o never_o say_v or_o thought_n that_o all_o particular_a rite_n pertain_v to_o order_n and_o decency_n be_v punctual_o determine_v in_o the_o scripture_n we_o never_o dream_v that_o all_o such_o rite_n be_v beside_o the_o particular_a determination_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v against_o it_o we_o speak_v of_o double_a or_o treble_a rite_n as_o the_o rejoynder_n style_v they_o which_o no_o mere_a order_n and_o decency_n do_v necessary_o require_v but_o only_o the_o mere_a will_n of_o man_n enjoin_v all_o this_o the_o rejoynder_n know_v and_o yet_o he_o cease_v not_o to_o beat_v the_o air_n with_o endless_a repetition_n of_o this_o imputation_n guild_v over_o with_o some_o variety_n of_o tant_a phrase_n that_o it_o may_v be_v the_o easily_o swallow_v by_o his_o unwary_a reader_n 2._o it_o be_v second_o answer_v by_o the_o def._n that_o the_o ancient_a writer_n speak_v of_o doctrine_n not_o of_o ceremony_n whereunto_o the_o repl._n grant_v that_o to_o be_v true_a for_o the_o most_o part_n yet_o answer_v that_o the_o truth_n of_o their_o say_n may_v be_v take_v so_o general_o as_o to_o include_v all_o religious_a ceremony_n here_o the_o rejoynder_n object_v that_o limitation_n for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v only_o to_o abuse_v the_o simple_a and_o that_o the_o ambiguous_a term_n of_o religious_a ceremony_n be_v a_o bush_n to_o hide_v i_o know_v not_o what_o in_o now_o for_o the_o former_a charge_n compare_v here_o the_o abrigment_n and_o def._n the_o late_a accusation_n of_o hiding-bush_n etc_o can_v otherwise_o be_v avoid_v as_o it_o seem_v except_o to_o avoid_v the_o same_o we_o will_v upon_o every_o occasion_n when_o we_o be_v to_o speak_v of_o the_o question_a kind_n of_o ceremony_n repeat_v the_o rejoynder_n his_o beadroul_n of_o term_n double_a or_o treble_a significant_a sacred_a by_o application_n mutable_a ambalatorie_a arbitrarie_a reductive_o sacramental_a moral_a ceremony_n immediate_a worship_n in_o respect_n of_o mean_n by_o virtue_n of_o some_o thing_n else_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o manner_n and_o reductive_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o utmost_a end_n divine_a worship_n whersoever_o we_o observe_v not_o these_o term_n partly_o of_o his_o own_o forge_n since_o the_o reply_n be_v write_v he_o may_v as_o well_o spy_v a_o bush_n over_o our_o head_n as_o in_o this_o place_n it_o be_v three_o answer_v that_o a_o general_a proposition_n may_v well_o be_v extend_v beyond_o one_o special_a conclusion_n to_o which_o it_o be_v upon_o occasion_n apply_v to_o this_o after_o that_o out_o of_o splen_z as_o i_o take_v it_o he_o style_v it_o the_o man_n stomach_n the_o rejoynder_n answer_v that_o it_o may_v only_o be_v apply_v to_o other_o of_o the_o like_a kind_n this_o therefore_o be_v only_o the_o difference_n whether_o those_o ceremony_n which_o bear_v all_o those_o title_n even_o now_o rehearse_v be_v not_o of_o the_o like_a kind_n or_o have_v not_o one_o common_a nature_n with_o some_o of_o those_o thing_n which_o the_o rejoynder_n call_v substantial_a and_o doctrinal_a point_n of_o which_o we_o have_v dispute_v before_o andshall_v after_o by_o god_n grace_n 2._o to_o tertullia_n word_n prohibetur_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la ultro_fw-la est_fw-la permissum_fw-la that_o be_v prohibit_v which_o be_v not_o permit_v the_o first_o answer_v make_v by_o the_o def._n be_v that_o our_o ceremony_n be_v permit_v hereunto_o it_o be_v reply_v that_o tertullia_n meaning_n must_v needs_o be_v of_o other_o permission_n than_o the_o def._n can_v challenge_v to_o our_o ceremony_n otherwise_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o sense_n in_o his_o word_n the_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o def._n do_v not_o say_v that_o our_o cerem_fw-la be_v otherwise_o permit_v then_o that_o they_o be_v not_o forbid_v which_o kind_n of_o permission_n if_o tertullian_n understand_v than_o his_o say_n be_v that_o be_v prohibit_v whiâ—h_o be_v not_o unprohibit_v the_o rejoynder_n here_o for_o resolution_n of_o this_o difficulty_n say_v that_o tertullia_n meaning_n be_v to_o account_v that_o not_o to_o be_v permit_v by_o the_o word_n against_o which_o any_o reason_n out_o of_o the_o word_n may_v be_v give_v though_o there_o be_v no_o particular_a word_n against_o it_o now_o if_o he_o have_v attend_v unto_o the_o question_n consider_v that_o it_o be_v only_o what_o tertullian_n in_o this_o place_n mean_v by_o this_o phrase_n not_o permit_v and_o that_o his_o meaning_n for_o the_o word_n must_v be_v the_o same_o with_o that_o immediate_o before_o oppose_v quod_fw-la non_fw-la prohibetur_fw-la ultro_fw-la permissum_fw-la est_fw-la he_o will_v not_o have_v give_v that_o gloss_n for_o then_o the_o meaning_n of_o this_o sentence_n must_v be_v that_o which_o have_v no_o particular_a word_n against_o it_o can_v have_v no_o reason_n out_o of_o the_o word_n make_v against_o it_o such_o â—ustian_n be_v that_o clause_n of_o the_o rejoynder_n our_o meaning_n and_o hìs_fw-la be_v alike_o and_o we_o hold_v our_o ceremony_n to_o be_v so_o permit_v and_o therefore_o not_o prohibit_v so_o permit_v be_v by_o his_o interpretation_n not_o to_o be_v prohibit_v by_o consequence_n prohibit_v must_v needs_o be_v either_o the_o same_o or_o else_o prohibit_v by_o particular_a word_n if_o the_o former_a than_o he_o say_v thus_o our_o ceremony_n be_v not_o prohibit_v by_o consequence_n therefore_o they_o be_v not_o prohibit_v by_o 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their_o significant_a ceremony_n which_o the_o defender_n and_o rejoynder_n do_v not_o maintain_v sect_n 11._o concern_v the_o feast_n of_o purim_n ester_n 9_o 1._o this_o example_n be_v seven_o hundred_o year_n since_o object_v by_o papist_n unto_o the_o waldenses_n for_o humane_a ceremony_n &_o since_o by_o all_o papist_n that_o have_v write_v against_o protestant_n about_o ceremomony_n as_o gregorius_n de_fw-fr valentia_n bellarmine_n suarez_n in_o the_o place_n before_o note_a and_o we_o need_v not_o seek_v for_o new_a answer_n about_o it_o see_v that_o which_o our_o divine_n have_v answer_v be_v sufficient_a our_o first_o answer_n be_v that_o of_o junius_n to_o bellarmine_n de_fw-fr cultu_fw-la sanct._n lib._n 3._o cap._n 10._o praeceptum_fw-la â—uit_fw-la politicum_fw-la which_o word_n because_o they_o be_v translate_v a_o precept_n of_o order_n the_o rejoynd_a catch_v occasion_n to_o conclude_v from_o thence_o that_o order_n do_v require_v institution_n of_o new_a thing_n but_o therein_o he_o miss_v except_o he_o can_v prove_v some_o new_a religious_a thing_n institute_v beside_o a_o circumstance_n of_o time_n which_o the_o reply_o who_o he_o seek_v to_o involve_v in_o a_o contradiction_n do_v express_o distinguish_v from_o thing_n his_o answer_n be_v that_o though_o this_o precept_n be_v political_a yet_o by_o junius_n himself_o annot_v 17._o it_o be_v also_o significant_a wherein_o he_o mistake_v junius_n his_o meaning_n which_o be_v expound_v annot_fw-mi 28._o it_o signify_v no_o day_n nor_o repraesent_v mystery_n but_o be_v a_o commemoration_n that_o day_n institute_v instituta_fw-la non_fw-la dies_fw-la signâ—ficat_fw-la aut_fw-la repraesentat_fw-la mysteria_fw-la sed_fw-la commemoratio_fw-la in_o dic_fw-la illo_fw-la instituta_fw-la 2._o it_o be_v add_v by_o the_o reply_o that_o some_o of_o our_o own_o writer_n at_o home_n say_v that_o it_o be_v appoint_v for_o a_o civil_a rejoice_v day_n here_o the_o rejoynder_n name_v m._n jacob_n for_o such_o a_o 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they_o please_v themselves_o with_o meat_n and_o drink_n etc._n etc._n but_o the_o jew_n take_v up_o that_o rite_n voluntary_o as_o be_v more_o prone_a to_o the_o contentment_n of_o the_o belly_n then_o to_o the_o confidence_n of_o the_o spirit_n towards_o god_n whereof_o in_o those_o time_n they_o seem_v to_o have_v be_v little_a careful_a and_o for_o this_o sentence_n it_o seem_v to_o make_v that_o the_o jew_n be_v say_v to_o have_v make_v such_o feast_n before_o and_o without_o any_o public_a institution_n and_o that_o nothing_o be_v mention_v in_o the_o text_n which_o two_o observation_n do_v not_o agree_v to_o the_o feast_n of_o tabernacle_n neh._n 8._o which_o the_o rejoynd_a will_v make_v like_a unto_o this_o add_v hereunto_o that_o if_o josephus_n may_v be_v credit_v the_o heathen_a king_n artaxerxes_n be_v the_o instituter_n of_o this_o feast_n among_o the_o heathen_a and_o the_o jew_n at_o susan_n follow_v his_o order_n it_o come_v to_o be_v propagate_v by_o mordecay_n and_o hester_n unto_o all_o other_o jew_n josephus_n lib._n 11._o cap._n 6._o 3._o another_o answer_n be_v upon_o supposition_n of_o a_o religious_a ceremony_n institute_v by_o mordecai_n that_o it_o be_v by_o divine_a direction_n the_o rejoynder_n to_o this_o return_v 1._o that_o no_o man_n ever_o so_o define_v before_o but_o he_o may_v when_o he_o be_v a_o student_n in_o cambrige_n have_v hear_v d._n whitaker_n thus_o define_v for_o in_o his_o print_a lecture_n de_fw-fr sacramentis_fw-la pag._n 206._o it_o stand_v so_o nitatur_fw-la respondeo_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la mardochaeum_n fecisse_fw-la deo_fw-la inspirante_fw-la &_o forsan_fw-la prophetae_fw-la cujuspian_n monitu_fw-la &_o authoritate_fw-la etsi_fw-la vero_fw-la non_fw-la legimus_fw-la aut_fw-la deum_fw-la ipsum_fw-la aut_fw-la aliquem_fw-la prophetam_fw-la hoc_fw-la mardochao_n mandasse_n tamen_fw-la quia_fw-la in_o libro_fw-la canonico_n hec_fw-la factum_fw-la reperitur_fw-la and_o commendatur_fw-la non_fw-la dubium_fw-la est_fw-la quin_fw-la divina_fw-la authoritate_fw-la nitatur_fw-la i_o answer_v that_o both_o mordecai_n do_v this_o god_n inspire_v he_o and_o peradventure_o by_o order_n from_o some_o prophet_n and_o however_o we_o do_v not_o read_v that_o either_o god_n or_o any_o prophet_n do_v require_v this_o yet_o for_o as_o much_o as_o it_o stand_v approve_v in_o scripture_n there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o it_o be_v do_v by_o divine_a authority_n as_o for_o the_o several_a holiday_n institute_v 2._o chr._n 30._o cast_v in_o here_o by_o the_o way_n of_o the_o rejoynder_n as_o a_o precedent_n for_o the_o feast_n of_o purim_n they_o agree_v not_o for_o they_o be_v not_o yearly_a holiday_n nor_o holiday_n at_o all_o of_o institution_n proper_o so_o call_v but_o a_o occasional_a continuation_n of_o freewill_n offering_n which_o may_v be_v offer_v any_o day_n in_o the_o yeear_fw-mi without_o new_a holiday_n for_o that_o one_o time_n if_o it_o have_v be_v by_o man_n appoint_v that_o every_o year_n 14._o day_n shall_v be_v observe_v for_o the_o passover_n feast_n it_o have_v fit_v to_o the_o purpose_n but_o that_o have_v be_v no_o less_o presumption_n then_o if_o they_o shall_v have_v decree_v that_o every_o year_n after_o the_o passover_n shall_v be_v celebrate_v in_o the_o second_o month_n as_o it_o be_v then_o by_o occasion_n sect_n 12._o concern_v the_o feast_n of_o dedication_n john_n 10.22.23_o 1._o a_o feast_n of_o dedication_n be_v brought-in_a as_o a_o instance_n of_o a_o humane_a ceremony_n appropriate_v unto_o god_n service_n out_o of_o john_n 10._o now_o what_o feast_n of_o dedication_n this_o be_v &_o whether_o it_o be_v mere_o of_o humane_a institution_n this_o have_v always_o be_v and_o be_v still_o in_o great_a quaestion_n nonnius_n take_v it_o for_o that_o which_o solomon_n appoint_v chrysostome_n theophilact_fw-mi euthymius_n cajetan_n calvin_n etc._n etc._n interpret_v it_o of_o that_o which_o begin_v in_o the_o time_n of_o ezra_n other_o of_o that_o institute_v by_o the_o macchabee_n 1._o mac._n 4._o this_o last_o the_o defender_n take_v for_o grant_v and_o thereupon_o build_v his_o argument_n and_o yet_o neither_o the_o former_a nor_o this_o can_v easy_o be_v so_o evident_o prove_v mere_o humane_a as_o it_o may_v be_v make_v a_o foundation_n for_o humane_a ceremony_n now_o junius_n de_fw-fr cultu_fw-la sanct._n lib._n 3._o cap._n 5._o thus_o answer_v bellarmine_n affirm_v that_o god_n do_v not_o appoint_v this_o ceremony_n it_o be_v false_a solomon_n ezras_n the_o maccabee_n follow_v the_o analogy_n of_o that_o place_n ex._n 4._o leu._n 8._o the_o right_a of_o which_o law_n if_o it_o have_v not_o be_v yet_o we_o must_v needs_o say_v that_o as_o prophet_n they_o be_v lead_v by_o extraordinary_a &_o singular_a revelation_n not_o to_o be_v exemplary_a therein_o to_o we_o tralâ—â—_n falsum_fw-la est_fw-la solomon_n ezras_n macchabat_fw-la sequnti_fw-la sunt_fw-la praceptum_fw-la exod._n 4._o leu._n 8_o â—n_fw-la juris_fw-la legalis_fw-la analogia_fw-la quod_fw-la jus_o si_fw-la non_fw-la extitisset_fw-la tamen_fw-la dicendum_fw-la fâ—ret_fw-la secissâ—_n cot_fw-la ut_fw-la prophetas_fw-la revelatione_fw-la extraordinaria_fw-la &_o singulari_fw-la quae_fw-la in_o exemplum_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la tralâ—â—_n 2._o the_o reply_o first_o observe_v that_o this_o example_n be_v much_o allege_v by_o papist_n against_o protestant_n for_o their_o ceremony_n and_o so_o indeed_o it_o have_v be_v always_o from_o the_o time_n of_o waldenses_n as_o be_v note_v in_o the_o 2._o chapter_n of_o our_o first_o part_n bellarmine_n have_v it_o twice_o once_o de_fw-fr rom_n pont._n l._n 4._o c._n 17._o and_o again_o de_fw-fr cultu_fw-la sanct._n l._n 3._o c._n â—_o to_o this_o the_o rej._n answer_v that_o this_o example_n serve_v 〈◊〉_d bellarmine_n turn_n for_o imposition_n of_o ceremony_n upon_o the_o conscience_n as_o of_o necessity_n to_o be_v observe_v as_o god_n law_n but_o it_o serve_v the_o defender_n his_o turn_n because_o as_o junius_n say_v coâ—r_n 3._o l._n 4._o c._n 17._o a_o 5._o it_o be_v not_o enjoin_v by_o way_n of_o authority_n but_o take_v up_o by_o consent_n he_o will_v make_v we_o as_o it_o seem_v believe_v that_o our_o ceremony_n be_v not_o enjoin_v by_o
way_n of_o authority_n and_o if_o he_o can_v do_v this_o he_o may_v also_o persuade_v we_o that_o we_o be_v for_o refuse_v they_o exclude_v suspend_v deprive_v excommunicate_v fine_v &_o imprison_v without_o any_o way_n lawful_a or_o unlawful_a of_o authority_n concern_v necessity_n in_o conscience_n see_v the_o first_o part_n chap._n 6._o another_o answer_n of_o the_o rejoinder_n be_v notorious_a bellarmine_n say_v he_o allege_v this_o feast_n of_o dedication_n to_o prove_v the_o dedication_n or_o consecration_n of_o church_n which_o be_v nothing_o to_o our_o question_n of_o significant_a rite_n now_o sure_o if_o dedication_n and_o consecration_n of_o church_n be_v nothing_o to_o our_o question_n of_o significant_a rite_n the_o def._n and_o rej._n say_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n when_o they_o prove_v this_o question_n of_o signify_v rite_n by_o the_o maccabee_n feast_n of_o dedication_n and_o if_o that_o feast_n of_o dedication_n do_v not_o prove_v humane_a dedication_n lawful_a much_o less_o do_v it_o prove_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o other_o significant_a ceremony_n such_o as_o we_o be_v 3._o the_o defendant_n for_o back_v of_o this_o instance_n add_v that_o our_o saviour_n seem_v to_o approve_v that_o humane_a feast_n by_o his_o presence_n joh._n 10._o to_o which_o it_o be_v reply_v that_o he_o seem_v only_o because_o we_o only_o read_v that_o he_o walk_v in_o solomon_n perch_n at_o that_o feast_n which_o he_o may_v do_v without_o observe_v or_o approve_v of_o it_o this_o be_v junius_n his_o answer_n to_o bellarmine_n allege_v that_o christ_n by_o his_o presence_n honour_v that_o feast_n templo_fw-la non_fw-la sestum_fw-la proprie_fw-la honorawit_n christus_fw-la sed_fw-la coetum_fw-la piorum_fw-la convenientium_fw-la festo_fw-la nam_fw-la omnes_fw-la ejusmodi_fw-la occasiones_fw-la seminandi_fw-la evangelij_fw-la sut_fw-la observabat_fw-la &_o capiebaâ—_n christus_fw-la con._n 3._o l._n 4.6.17_o a_o 6._o so_o peliâ—anus_n in_o mac._n 1._o cap._n 4._o nec_fw-la aliud_fw-la in_o his_o encoenijs_fw-la christus_fw-la egisse_fw-la legitur_fw-la quam_fw-la praedicasse_fw-la in_o templo_fw-la christ_n do_v not_o proper_o honour_v the_o feast_n but_o the_o congregation_n of_o the_o faithful_a at_o the_o feast_n for_o christ_n take_v all_o such_o occasion_n then_o to_o wit_n before_o those_o solemnity_n be_v abolish_v of_o sow_v the_o seed_n of_o his_o gospel_n nor_o do_v christ_n aught_o that_o we_o read_v at_o those_o time_n but_o preach_v in_o the_o temple_n and_o sure_o i_o be_o that_o neither_o walk_n in_o the_o porch_n nor_o declare_v that_o he_o be_v that_o christ_n belong_v proper_o unto_o the_o solemnity_n of_o that_o feast_n if_o he_o have_v preach_v of_o dedication_n and_o consecration_n with_o allowance_n that_o have_v be_v something_o the_o rej._n object_v 1._o that_o we_o plead_v christ_n approbation_n of_o marriage_n by_o his_o presence_n this_o indeed_o add_v unto_o evident_a ground_n add_v some_o honour_n unto_o that_o state_n especial_o in_o that_o a_o miracle_n be_v wrought_v to_o the_o furtherance_n of_o a_o marriage_n feast_n if_o we_o have_v no_o other_o plea_n for_o lawfulness_n of_o marriage_n but_o that_o mere_a presence_n i_o for_o my_o part_n will_v as_o soon_o separate_v from_o my_o wife_n as_o the_o rejoynder_n say_v he_o will_v from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n if_o he_o be_v of_o our_o mind_n about_o ceremony_n that_o be_v to_o day_n before_o to_o morrow_n his_o 2._o objection_n be_v that_o christ_n whip_v the_o buyer_n and_o seller_n out_o of_o the_o temple_n joh._n 2._o ergo._n which_o make_v direct_o to_o the_o clear_n of_o this_o cause_n for_o there_o be_v two_o whip_n of_o these_o merchant_n out_o of_o the_o temple_n the_o first_o whereof_o be_v this_o joh._n 2._o in_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o preach_n the_o other_o towards_o the_o end_n of_o it_o a_o little_a before_o his_o passion_n so_o that_o it_o appear_v plain_o they_o be_v not_o so_o drive_v out_o but_o they_o come_v in_o again_o and_o continue_v their_o merchandise_n there_o and_o yet_o in_o the_o mean_a space_n our_o saviour_n be_v often_o present_a in_o the_o temple_n without_o allowance_n of_o that_o their_o practice_n so_o have_v he_o often_o condemn_v the_o tradition_n of_o man_n in_o god_n worship_n and_o yet_o be_v present_v some_o time_n where_o they_o be_v observe_v beside_o because_o the_o def._n and_o rej._n be_v wont_a to_o accuse_v the_o jew_n for_o place_v holiness_n necessity_n efficacy_n and_o proper_a essential_a worship_n in_o humane_a tradition_n whereby_o they_o will_v avoid_v the_o dint_n of_o that_o general_a censure_n which_o our_o saviour_n give_v of_o they_o mat._n 15._o mar._n 7._o etc._n etc._n i_o will_v fain_o learn_v of_o they_o how_o it_o appear_v or_o may_v be_v conjecture_v that_o they_o place_v not_o as_o much_o holiness_n necessity_n efficacy_n etc._n etc._n in_o this_o and_o such_o like_a humane_a feast_n as_o in_o wash_v of_o hand_n before_o meat_n if_o they_o do_v as_o any_o man_n will_v think_v then_o how_o can_v they_o say_v that_o our_o saviour_n condemn_v the_o one_o and_o allow_v the_o other_o the_o follow_v 13._o and_o 14._o section_n be_v spend_v about_o some_o objection_n take_v out_o of_o m_o r._n cartwrite_v but_o because_o the_o slitenesse_n of_o this_o instance_n be_v already_o sufficient_o discover_v i_o will_v not_o cloy_v nor_o detain_v the_o reader_n about_o they_o at_o this_o time_n but_o pass_v on_o to_o the_o next_o instance_n sect_n 15._o and_o 16._o concern_v the_o altar_n of_o jordan_n josh._n 22._o 1._o it_o be_v the_o def._n and_o rej._n their_o fashion_n to_o produce_v instance_n without_o proof_n of_o their_o fitness_n and_o so_o expect_v from_o we_o that_o they_o shall_v be_v disprove_v which_o be_v all_o one_o as_o if_o john_n a_o style_n shall_v in_o a_o great_a traverse_n bring_v forth_o against_o john_n a_o nokes_n some_o instrument_n for_o evidence_n of_o his_o cause_n which_o few_o or_o none_o beside_o himself_o 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