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A44141 A correct copy of some letters written to J.M., a nonconformist teacher concerning the gift and forms of prayer by Matthew Hole ... Hole, Matthew, 1639 or 40-1730.; J. M. (John Moore), 1641 or 2-1717. 1698 (1698) Wing H2408; ESTC R19302 77,888 204

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