both_o together_o or_o either_o apart_o â—o_o bind_v every_o christian_n to_o preach_v public_o as_o he_o conceive_v himself_o to_o be_v able_a though_o he_o be_v no_o officer_n i_o say_v to_o bind_v for_o the_o apostle_n speaâ—â—â—ot_v of_o a_o liberty_n which_o we_o may_v use_v or_o disuse_n but_o of_o a_o duty_n which_o we_o must_v perform_v the_o duty_n of_o preach_a lie_n upon_o none_o but_o upon_o those_o that_o be_v call_v the_o ordinary_a regular_a way_n of_o call_v be_v by_o ordination_n to_o all_o which_o be_v produce_v pag._n 18._o concern_v prophet_n and_o prophesy_v and_o use_v of_o gift_n out_o of_o 1_o cor._n 12_o 7_o 8_o 9_o 10_o 11._o 1_o cor._n 14._o 3_o 39_o i_o answer_v summary_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o all_o order_n officer_n or_o member_n of_o the_o church_n above_o minister_n may_v preach_v as_o well_o as_o they_o whether_o ordain_v or_o unordain_v â—â—_o apostle_n and_o evangelist_n and_o prophet_n for_o prophet_n such_o as_o be_v under_o the_o new_a 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eligere_fw-la p._n 18._o l._n penult_n saltem_fw-la r._n solum_fw-la p._n 10._o l._n 13_o after_o praeire_fw-la enim_fw-la add_v debent_fw-la lin_v 14._o cum_fw-la r._n cor_fw-la l._n 25._o essensum_fw-la r._n assensum_fw-la p._n 34._o &_o dominus_fw-la r._n ut_fw-la dominus_fw-la p._n 44._o in_o stead_n of_o the_o word_n there_o find_v in_o the_o beginning_n read_v thus_o omnes_fw-la illi_fw-la actus_fw-la qui_fw-la pertinent_a ad_fw-la vocationem_fw-la vel_fw-la tendunt_fw-la ad_fw-la electionem_fw-la etc._n etc._n in_o the_o answer_n itself_o pag._n 9_o lin_v 1._o after_o et_fw-la add_v pro._n l._n 9_o after_o that_o be_v add_v in_o p._n 9_o l._n 29_o for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 11._o l._n 3._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 25._o l._n ult_n comitur_fw-la r._n committitur_fw-la p._n 34._o l._n 13._o after_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d blot_v out_o often_o p._n 66._o l._n 9_o porrectione_n r._n porrectionem_fw-la p._n 77._o l._n 1._o for_o to_o â—abylon_n r._n of_o babylon_n a_o answer_n to_o the_o tract_n bear_v title_n the_o judgement_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n and_o protestant_a divine_n concern_v ordination_n lay_v on_o of_o band_n in_o ordination_n of_o minister_n etc._n etc._n the_o word_n of_o the_o treatise_n be_v here_o set_v down_o without_o add_v alter_v or_o abridgement_n ordination_n be_v take_v common_o for_o a_o act_n of_o minister_n or_o elder_n after_o examination_n and_o election_n the_o answer_n 1._o in_o the_o common_a acception_n of_o the_o word_n ordination_n include_v examination_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o be_v not_o a_o single_a act_n but_o a_o complicate_v so_o as_o all_o be_v to_o be_v take_v in_o which_o belong_v to_o the_o ordainer_n for_o the_o solemn_a fieri_fw-la solemn_a solenne_fw-fr est_fw-fr quod_fw-la solet_fw-la fieri_fw-la constitute_n or_o set_v apart_o and_o make_v of_o he_o to_o be_v a_o minister_n who_o be_v none_o before_o ordinatio_fw-la apostolica_fw-la triplici_fw-la actione_n constabat_fw-la primus_fw-la act_n erat_fw-la praparatorius_fw-la scil_n jejunium_fw-la secundus_fw-la preces_fw-la tertius_fw-la manuum_fw-la impositio_fw-la nico._n hunnius_n demonstratione_n minist_n lutheran_n p._n 271._o 2._o whether_o the_o word_n minister_n or_o elder_n be_v to_o be_v take_v here_o disjunctive_o or_o exegetical_o be_v uncertain_a because_o they_o be_v sometime_o take_v for_o the_o same_o and_o sometime_o for_o several_a sort_n of_o church-officer_n that_o minister_n alone_o may_v ordain_v without_o other_o elder_n when_o the_o presbytery_n be_v not_o integrate_v be_v a_o receive_a opinion_n but_o how_o elder_n who_o be_v no_o minister_n may_v act_v in_o ordain_v be_v disputable_a 3._o as_o for_o election_n and_o examination_n whether_o you_o suppose_v they_o here_o as_o the_o act_n of_o minister_n or_o elder_n or_o of_o the_o people_n antecedent_o i_o know_v not_o nor_o what_o kind_n of_o election_n you_o mean_v for_o there_o be_v divers_a kind_n 1._o by_o way_n of_o desire_n with_o submission_n or_o reference_n 2._o by_o way_n of_o acceptance_n or_o acquiescence_n 3._o by_o way_n of_o choice_n out_o of_o many_o to_o pitch_v on_o one_o 4._o by_o way_n of_o creation_n which_o be_v by_o choose_v to_o make_v one_o what_o he_o be_v not_o before_o ordination_n suppose_v no_o election_n on_o the_o people_n part_n but_o that_o which_o be_v by_o way_n of_o desire_n with_o submission_n and_o reference_n this_o may_v precede_v the_o act_n of_o ordain_v but_o be_v not_o simple_o necessary_a in_o all_o case_n election_n by_o way_n of_o creation_n be_v include_v in_o ordination_n and_o be_v not_o far_o from_o the_o formal_a reason_n of_o it_o that_o minister_n and_o elder_n may_v ordain_v none_o de_fw-fr jure_fw-la in_o any_o state_n of_o the_o church_n or_o in_o any_o case_n but_o those_o who_o the_o people_n 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quorum_fw-la est_fw-la examinare_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la &_o mores_fw-la vocandi_fw-la personamque_fw-la idoneam_fw-la &_o ecclesiae_fw-la utilem_fw-la ligere_fw-la idde_n case_z con_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 4._o casu_fw-la 3._o of_o ordinationhe_n he_o speak_v thus_o citra_fw-la necessitatis_fw-la casum_fw-la &_o si_fw-la haberi_fw-la possit_fw-la nequaquam_fw-la est_fw-la omittenda_fw-la propter_fw-la evitandâ—_n novitatis_fw-la scandalum_fw-la semper_fw-la e._n in_o ecclesia_fw-la apostolica_fw-la usitata_fw-la fuit_fw-la ubi_fw-la vocati_fw-la ad_fw-la ministerium_fw-la verbi_fw-la per_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d presbyterii_fw-la in_o officio_fw-la svo_fw-la confirmati_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o cap._n 6._o casu_fw-la 1._o presbyterii_fw-la nomine_fw-la intelliguntur_fw-la non_fw-la tantum_fw-la ministri_fw-la verbi_fw-la sedetiam_fw-la illi_fw-la qui_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ad_fw-la functiones_fw-la ecclesiasticas_fw-la constituendas_fw-la sunt_fw-la deputati_fw-la quos_fw-la seniores_fw-la praepositos_fw-la &_o consiliarios_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la adeoque_fw-la senatum_fw-la ecclesiasticum_fw-la appellamâ—s_fw-la atque_fw-la his_fw-la quidem_fw-la presbyter_n be_v primas_fw-la part_n in_o electione_n &_o vocatione_n ministrorum_fw-la concâ—dendaâ—_n esse_fw-la nemo_fw-la sanus_fw-la ut_fw-la opinâ—r_fw-la negabit_fw-la aegidius_n hunnius_n dan._n arculariuâ—_n jo._n wilkeâ—mannus_n etc._n etc._n propositionum_fw-la come_v 2._o disp_n 22._o these_o 83_o &_o 84._o vide_fw-la plura_fw-la apud_fw-la baâ—thas_n mâ—â—â—zerum_fw-la in_o exegesi_fw-la augustianâ—_n confessionis_fw-la ad_fw-la ar._n 4._o num_fw-la 4_o 5_o 6_o &_o 8._o chemnitium_fw-la â—â—_o exam_o conc_fw-fr trid._n de_fw-fr sâ—craâ—_n ordinis_fw-la ad_fw-la can_v 8._o nic._n hunnium_fw-la indemon_n min._n lutherans_n per_fw-la totum_fw-la matter_n of_o testimony_n and_o desire_v that_o these_o few_o thing_n may_v be_v observe_v 1._o the_o general_a opinion_n of_o the_o lutheran_n about_o the_o 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the_o call_v of_o minister_n in_o ecclesiis_fw-la quas_fw-la vocant_fw-la evangelicis_fw-la use_v this_o argument_n against_o bellarmine_n vocatio_fw-la mediata_fw-la legitima_fw-la juxta_fw-la divinam_fw-la institutionem_fw-la &_o apostolorum_fw-la praxin_fw-la fieri_fw-la debet_fw-la à _fw-la tota_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la &_o omnibus_fw-la tribus_fw-la illius_fw-la ordinibus_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la vocatio_fw-la fit_a à _fw-la tota_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la &_o omnibus_fw-la tribus_fw-la illius_fw-la or_o dinibus_fw-la ergo._n a_o lawful_a mediate_v call_v according_a to_o divine_a institution_n and_o the_o apostle_n practice_n must_v be_v make_v by_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o all_o the_o three_o order_n thereof_o the_o call_n of_o our_o minister_n be_v make_v by_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o all_o the_o three_o order_n thereof_o therefore_o it_o be_v lawful_a according_a to_o divine_a institution_n and_o apostolical_a practice_n the_o minor_a say_v he_o be_v manifest_a out_o of_o the_o 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ministerium_fw-la ab_fw-la ordinarit_n neglectum_fw-la &_o corruptuminstanrent_fw-la zanch._n quo_fw-la suprâ—_n vide_fw-la confessionem_fw-la gallicâ—m_fw-la artic._n 31._o 8._o for_o matter_n of_o succession_n in_o the_o way_n of_o ordination_n i_o see_v no_o need_n of_o contend_v for_o more_o than_o be_v grant_v by_o some_o of_o the_o separation_n i_o deny_v not_o but_o confess_v say_v robinson_n ult_n robinson_n justif_n of_o separation_n pag._n 322._o it._n page_n 327._o ed._n ult_n that_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o more_o particular_o the_o church_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n continue_v and_o abide_v in_o that_o state_n faith_n and_o order_n wherein_o they_o be_v set_v and_o establish_v by_o the_o lord_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o his_o â—_z the_o apostle_n and_o evangelist_n be_v to_o receive_v their_o minister_n constant_o by_o succession_n after_o a_o sort_n namely_o so_o far_o as_o that_o all_o succeed_a minister_n be_v to_o be_v ordain_v by_o minister_n and_o not_o 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lord_n give_v leave_v harm_n eng._n pag._n 253._o &_o 254._o the_o augustane_n confession_n art_n 14._o concern_v ecclesiastical_a order_n they_o teach_v that_o no_o man_n 16._o de_fw-fr ordine_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la docent_fw-la quod_fw-la nemo_fw-la debeat_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la publicae_fw-la docere_fw-la auâ—_n sacramenta_fw-la administrare_fw-la nisi_fw-la rite_n vocatus_fw-la sicut_fw-la &_o paulus_n praecipit_fw-la tito_n ut_fw-la in_o civitatibus_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la constituat_fw-la corp._n conf._n par_fw-fr 1._o p._n 16._o shall_v public_o in_o the_o church_n teach_v or_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n except_o he_o be_v right_o call_v according_a as_o st._n paul_n give_v commandment_n to_o titus_n to_o ordain_v elder_n in_o every_o city_n harm_n eng._n p._n 258._o the_o latter_a conf._n of_o helvetia_n chap._n 18._o furthermore_o no_o man_n ought_v to_o usurp_v the_o honour_n of_o the_o 59_o nemo_fw-la autem_fw-la honorem_fw-la ministerii_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la usurpare_fw-la sibi_fw-la i._n e._n ad_fw-la se_fw-la largitionibus_fw-la aut_fw-la ullis_fw-la artibus_fw-la aut_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la proprio_fw-la rapere_fw-la debet_fw-la dâ—mnamus_n hic_fw-la omnes_fw-la qui_fw-la fua_fw-la spoâ—â—â—_n currunt_fw-la cum_fw-la non_fw-la sint_fw-la electi_fw-la missi_fw-la nec_fw-la ordinaâ—â—_n corp._n conf._n par_fw-fr 1._o pag._n 59_o ecclesiastical_a ministry_n that_o be_v to_o say_v greedy_o to_o pluck_v it_o to_o he_o by_o bribe_n or_o any_o evil_a shift_n or_o of_o his_o own_o accord_n we_o do_v here_o therefore_o condemn_v all_o those_o which_o run_v of_o their_o own_o accord_n be_v neither_o choose_v send_v nor_o ordain_v harm_n engl._n p._n 236._o the_o conf._n of_o wirtemberg_n art_n 20._o neither_o be_v it_o unknown_a that_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n have_v 164._o nec_fw-la est_fw-la obscurum_fw-la qd_n christus_fw-la instituerit_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la sva_fw-la ministros_fw-la qui_fw-la adnâ—ncient_a evangelium_fw-la suum_fw-la &_o 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posse_fw-la se_fw-la intrudere_fw-la corp._n conf._n par_fw-fr 1._o pag._n 116._o see_v also_o the_o 23_o art_n among_o the_o 39_o and_o corp._n conf._n p._n 131._o and_o orderly_o to_o be_v prefer_v to_o that_o office_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o that_o no_o man_n have_v power_n ro_o wrest_v himself_o into_o the_o holy_a ministry_n at_o his_o own_o pleasure_n harm_n eng._n p._n 255._o propos_fw-fr iii_o in_o call_v to_o the_o ministry_n beside_o election_n ordination_n be_v to_o be_v use_v where_o it_o may_v be_v have_v act._n 6._o 2._o ch_n 13._o 2._o ch_n 14._o 23._o titus_n 1._o 5._o 1_o tim._n 5._o 22._o and_o beside_o the_o usual_a way_n of_o ordain_v by_o prayer_n fast_v and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n there_o be_v no_o other_o speak_v of_o in_o any_o confession_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n the_o conf._n of_o helvetia_n quo_fw-la supra_fw-la and_o those_o which_o be_v choose_v let_v they_o be_v ordain_v of_o the_o elder_n with_o public_a prayer_n and_o lay_v on_o of_o 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