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A85228 Certain considerations of present concernment: touching this reformed Church of England. With a particular examination of An: Champny (Doctor of the Sorbon) his exceptions against the lawful calling and ordination of the Protestant bishops and pastors of this Church. / By H: Ferne, D.D. Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662. 1653 (1653) Wing F789; Thomason E1520_1; ESTC R202005 136,131 385

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rome_n for_o the_o whole_a matter_n and_o form_n and_o because_o we_o know_v not_o certain_o in_o or_o by_o which_o word_n or_o action_n the_o sacrament_n be_v essential_o perfect_v therefore_o we_o must_v not_o omit_v any_o of_o those_o word_n thing_n or_o action_n which_o the_o church_n use_v and_o in_o the_o whole_a comprehension_n of_o which_o their_o author_n all_o agree_v the_o whole_a matter_n and_o form_n of_o that_o sacrament_n to_o consist_v pag._n 413_o 414._o but_o first_o this_o do_v not_o prove_v that_o our_o ordination_n be_v certain_o null_a and_o invalid_a as_o he_o pretend_v because_o we_o omit_v some_o thing_n and_o word_n which_o they_o use_v for_o they_o be_v not_o agree_v whether_o it_o essential_o consist_v in_o those_o we_o use_v or_o in_o those_o we_o omit_v but_o only_o conclude_v we_o can_v in_o their_o judgement_n be_v certain_a
point_n of_o concernment_n or_o prejudicial_a to_o the_o faith_n for_o that_o of_o the_o millenary_a as_o it_o be_v not_o universal_a so_o not_o of_o such_o moment_n and_o that_o of_o the_o infant-communion_n though_o more_o universal_a and_o of_o long_a continuance_n be_v but_o a_o tolerable_a mistake_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n indeed_o in_o her_o council_n of_o trent_n have_v pronounce_v anathema_n to_o they_o that_o shall_v say_v such_o communicate_v of_o infant_n be_v necessary_a which_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o rome_n under_o innocent_a the_o first_o do_v no_o question_n say_v and_o according_o practice_v therefore_o the_o instance_n of_o those_o error_n be_v not_o as_o i_o say_v direct_v against_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o only_o make_v use_n of_o against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o the_o error_n there_o prevail_v which_o they_o will_v not_o acknowledge_v can_v take_v hold_n on_o that_o church_n first_o to_o show_v that_o the_o use_n of_o private_a judgement_n which_o they_o scoff_v at_o be_v necessary_a in_o discover_v and_o for_o reform_v of_o error_n prevail_v these_o two_o instance_a in_o be_v so_o discover_v and_o thereupon_o leave_v off_o second_o to_o show_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v err_v in_o this_o of_o infant_n communion_n saint_n augustin_n tell_v we_o direct_o l._n 1._o cont._n julian_n c._n 1._o definivit_fw-la innocentius_n nisi_fw-la manducaverint_fw-la innocentius_n define_v unless_o they_o infant_n eat_v the_o flesh_n etc._n etc._n nay_o say_v saint_n augustine_n definivit_fw-la dominus_fw-la the_o lord_n himself_o define_v it_o when_o he_o say_v except_o you_o eat_v and_o drink_v the_o you_o have_v no_o life_n in_o you_o s._n joh._n 6.35_o whereby_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o the_o practice_n of_o jufant_n communion_n be_v raise_v from_o that_o place_n except_o you_o eat_v s._n john_n 6._o be_v hold_v needful_a and_o so_o it_o be_v hold_v and_o practise_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n however_o the_o trent_n council_n condemn_v this_o error_n slubber_v it_o over_o say_v it_o be_v practise_v quibusdam_fw-la in_o locis_fw-la in_o some_o place_n as_o if_o not_o in_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o that_o the_o ancient_n do_v so_o hold_v no_o necessity_n of_o it_o three_o to_o show_v that_o no_o point_n of_o faith_n or_o worship_n wherein_o they_o and_o we_o differ_v do_v so_o general_o prevail_v in_o the_o church_n and_o with_o so_o little_a contradiction_n make_v to_o it_o as_o those_o error_n do_v for_o some_o age_n it_o be_v true_a that_o justin_n martyr_n in_o his_o dial._n cum_fw-la tryiph_n insinuate_v that_o many_o pious_o affect_v do_v not_o entertain_v the_o millenary_a belief_n yet_o he_o tell_v we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o all_o who_o be_v in_o all_o point_v orthodox_n or_o of_o right_a judgement_n hold_v it_o and_o i_o say_v no_o more_o pag._n 58._o of_o the_o former_a book_n also_o of_o all_o that_o write_v for_o 300._o year_n even_o down_o to_o lactantius_n inclusive_o most_o of_o they_o avouch_v it_o not_o one_o of_o they_o as_o i_o can_v find_v contradict_v or_o write_v against_o it_o whereas_o we_o can_v say_v to_o the_o error_n prevail_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n that_o there_o be_v always_o many_o pious_o affect_v who_o entertain_v they_o not_o and_o that_o they_o be_v upon_o record_n and_o their_o contradiction_n to_o those_o prevail_a error_n more_o apparent_a then_o be_v any_o make_v to_o the_o millenary_a for_o the_o first_o 300._o year_n or_o to_o infant-communion_n for_o more_o age_n this_o be_v clear_a by_o the_o many_o author_n yet_o extant_a which_o albeit_o partial_a for_o the_o most_o part_n in_o the_o cause_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n yet_o tell_v we_o of_o the_o opposition_n make_v to_o the_o prevail_a conceit_n of_o a_o transubstantiate_a of_o the_o element_n in_o the_o eucharist_n from_o bertram_z down_z to_z berengarius_fw-la and_o after_o he_o how_o many_o oppose_v that_o and_o other_o error_n prevail_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o the_o time_n of_o the_o albigenses_n and_o fromt_v hence_o downward_o to_o the_o last_o age._n all_o this_o i_o say_v be_v upon_o record_n in_o many_o writer_n of_o former_a time_n last_o to_o show_v by_o the_o prevail_a of_o those_o two_o error_n of_o the_o millennium_n and_o infant-communion_n without_o any_o contradiction_n record_v how_o cardinal_n perron_n two_o rule_n for_o know_v who_o and_z what_o be_v catholic_n according_a to_o antiquity_n be_v vain_a and_o inconsistent_a with_o truth_n of_o which_o sect._n 31._o of_o the_o former_a book_n to_o these_o purpose_n be_v use_v make_v of_o those_o two_o prevail_a error_n against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n henry_n ferne._n content_n of_o the_o chapter_n chap._n i._o of_o submission_n of_o judgement_n and_o external_a peaceable_a subjection_n due_a to_o the_o church_n national_a or_o universal_a from_o the_o respective_a member_n thereof_o pag._n 1._o chap._n ii_o of_o the_o reformation_n begin_v under_o hen._n 8._o advance_v under_o king_n edward_n perfect_v under_o queen_n elizabeth_n and_o of_o the_o warrantableness_n thereof_o pag._n 62._o chap._n iii_o of_o the_o lawful_a call_n of_o our_o english_a protestant_n bishop_n against_o doctor_n champny_n sorbonist_n and_o of_o the_o first_o prejudice_n from_o other_o reform_a church_n that_o have_v not_o ordination_n by_o bishop_n pag._n 89._o chap._n iu._n of_o the_o second_o prejudice_n against_o the_o ordination_n from_o the_o protestant_a opinion_n of_o the_o pope_n be_v antichrist_n and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n heretical_a pag._n 131._o chap._n v._o of_o the_o three_o prejudice_n from_o the_o protestant_a opinion_n of_o the_o romish_a order_n that_o they_o be_v sacrilegious_a and_o do_v not_o give_v a_o indelible_a character_n pag._n 156._o chap._n vi_o of_o archhishop_n cranmers_n ordination_n and_o the_o pretend_a defect_n of_o it_o bigamy_n and_o heresy_n pag._n 177._o chap._n vii_o of_o bishop_n ordain_v in_o king_n edward_n time_n and_o the_o essential_a defect_n pretend_v to_o be_v in_o the_o form_n of_o their_o ordination_n and_o of_o other_o presumption_n against_o it_o pag._n 210._o chap._n viii_o of_o archbishop_n parker_n ordination_n and_o the_o pretend_a defect_n of_o it_o from_o the_o new_a form_n and_o the_o incapacity_n of_o his_o ordainer_n pag._n 246._o chap._n ix_o of_o the_o other_o bishop_n ordain_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o queen_n elizabeth_n reign_n and_o pretence_n of_o special_a defect_n in_o it_o by_o reason_n of_o intrusion_n where_o also_o of_o the_o deprivation_n of_o the_o former_a bishop_n and_o of_o the_o oath_n of_o supremacy_n as_o the_o chief_a cause_n of_o it_o pag._n 264._o chap._n x._o the_o exception_n against_o our_o bishop_n that_o they_o be_v not_o priest_n of_o the_o evangelical_n priesthood_n or_o ministry_n commit_v to_o we_o man_n and_o of_o the_o romish_a presumption_n in_o assume_v more_o pag._n 319._o errata_fw-la pag._n 15._o l._n 6._o for_o that_o be_v r._n there_o be_v p._n 35._o l._n 25._o for_o nature_n r._n natural_a p._n 37._o l._n 2._o for_o producit_fw-la r._n perducit_fw-la p._n 68_o l._n 10._o for_o speak_v r._n speak_v p._n 111._o l._n 9_o for_o foe_n r._n of_o p._n 126._o l._n 24._o for_o perplexity_n r._n prolixity_n p._n 143._o l._n 25._o of_o give_v deal_n of_o p._n 144._o l._n 21._o lay_v r._n be_v lay_v p._n 146._o l._n 16._o assert_v r._n be_v assert_v p._n 147._o l._n 14._o for_o a_o r._n and._n p._n 191._o l._n 20._o for_o wrought_v r._n write_v p._n 195._o l._n ult_n apply_v r._n be_v apply_v p._n 200._o l._n 1._o for_o be_v r._n be_v p._n 203._o l._n 16._o for_o mat._n 15._o r._n mat._n 5._o p._n 205._o l._n 23._o for_o that_o r._n then_o by_o p._n 208._o l._n 27._o for_o he_o r._n this_o p._n 216._o l._n 27._o for_o impertirent_o r._n impertinent_a p._n 239._o l._n 11._o for_o let_v r._n let_v p._n 251._o l._n 20._o for_o shall_v r._n woo_a and_o l._n ult_n for_o be_v r._n as_o be_v p._n 256._o l._n 1._o for_o 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or_o forbear_v for_o conscience_n sake_n 2._o that_o such_o forbearance_n of_o any_o practice_n be_v a_o act_n of_o simple_a and_o bare_a omission_n without_o clamour_n and_o contempt_n of_o authority_n without_o tumult_n or_o resistance_n with_o a_o readiness_n to_o suffer_v rather_o then_o be_v there_o peaceable_a subjection_n when_o private_a judgement_n keep_v within_o these_o bound_n for_o such_o conscionable_a forbearance_n of_o many_o practice_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n of_o high_a concernment_n and_o very_o evident_a they_o have_v good_a cause_n that_o be_v within_o her_o communion_n such_o practice_n be_v the_o exercise_n of_o religious_a worship_n many_o way_n apply_v in_o that_o church_n to_o the_o creature_n such_o also_o be_v some_o superstitious_a rite_n and_o ceremony_n have_v a_o kind_n of_o sacramental_a virtue_n and_o real_a holiness_n affix_v to_o they_o 18._o discipline_n in_o matter_n of_o ceremony_n or_o discipline_n but_o as_o for_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n in_o themselves_o indifferent_a and_o by_o the_o church_n enjoin_v only_o with_o respect_n to_o order_n and_o discipline_n there_o be_v no_o cause_n of_o inconformity_n or_o forbearance_n yet_o in_o these_o have_v there_o be_v great_a opposition_n from_o private_a judgement_n that_o can_v not_o keep_v within_o their_o bound_n and_o those_o place_n of_o rom._n 14._o he_o that_o doubt_v be_v damn_v if_o he_o eat_v and_o what_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n be_v sin_n have_v be_v abuse_v to_o maintain_v a_o dissent_v from_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n and_o a_o forbearance_n of_o the_o practice_n we_o say_v therefore_o those_o place_n be_v misapply_v to_o matter_n determine_v by_o public_a authority_n against_o which_o it_o be_v not_o doubt_v or_o want_n of_o faith_n i.e._n persuasion_n of_o the_o lawfulness_n or_o indifferency_n of_o the_o thing_n so_o determine_v that_o can_v take_v place_n or_o bear_v out_o disobedience_n but_o evident_a demonstration_n of_o the_o thing_n out_o 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in_o itself_o indifferent_a but_o not_o determine_v or_o enjoin_v by_o authority_n may_v by_o reason_n of_o his_o doubt_n have_v cause_n to_o forbear_v it_o yet_o not_o in_o this_o case_n of_o the_o suppose_a determination_n and_o injunction_n of_o authority_n for_o he_o that_o will_v then_o urge_v he_o that_o doubt_v be_v damn_v must_v remember_v that_o he_o that_o disobey_v be_v damn_v too_o that_o former_a place_n of_o doubt_v have_v many_o exception_n of_o which_o this_o predetermination_n of_o authority_n be_v one_o but_o this_o disobey_v of_o authority_n have_v only_o one_o viz._n when_o there_o be_v sufficient_a evidence_n of_o l._n vine_n authority_n against_o the_o thing_n determine_v by_o humane_a and_o so_o it_o become_v a_o obey_v of_o god_n rather_o then_o man._n 19_o how_o of_o priest_n celebacie_n enjoin_v by_o the_o church_n and_o how_o but_o it_o may_v be_v expect_v because_o i_o refer_v the_o injunction_n of_o priest_n single_a life_n to_o matter_n of_o discipline_n that_o i_o shall_v speak_v particular_o to_o the_o conformity_n of_o judgement_n and_o practice_n to_o it_o i_o refer_v it_o to_o discipline_n because_o ancient_o enjoin_v not_o in_o a_o disparagement_n to_o marriage_n which_o the_o apostle_n conclude_v honourable_a in_o all_o man_n but_o in_o order_n to_o their_o better_a discharge_n of_o their_o duty_n and_o priestlie_n or_o ministerial_a function_n and_o i_o do_v not_o now_o dispute_v the_o difference_n of_o that_o ancient_a injunction_n from_o the_o now_o roman_a exaction_n of_o single_a life_n nor_o question_n with_o what_o fullness_n of_o authority_n it_o be_v enjoin_v or_o how_o far_o or_o how_o long_o bind_v which_o i_o shall_v have_v more_o fit_a occasion_n to_o touch_v a_o little_a 25.26_o num._n 25.26_o below_o and_o more_o large_o against_o champny_n in_o the_o six_o chapter_n but_o only_o speak_v to_o the_o point_n of_o submission_n and_o conformity_n to_o such_o judgement_n or_o determination_n of_o the_o church_n 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