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A26860 An answer to Mr. Dodwell and Dr. Sherlocke, confuting an universal humane church-supremacy aristocratical and monarchical, as church-tyranny and popery : and defending Dr. Isaac Barrow's treatise against it by Richard Baxter ; preparatory to a fuller treatise against such an universal soveraignty as contrary to reason, Christianity, the Protestant profession, and the Church of England, though the corrupters usurp that title. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1682 (1682) Wing B1184; ESTC R16768 131,071 189

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institution_n no_o man_n can_v be_v episcopus_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la and_o have_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n over_o the_o bishop_n 2._o dr._n hammond_n argument_n against_o presbyter_n ordination_n be_v nemo_fw-la that_fw-mi quod_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la which_o though_o it_o serve_v not_o his_o turn_n on_o several_a account_n both_o because_o 1._o they_o have_v the_o order_n which_o they_o confer_v 2._o because_o ordination_n be_v not_o give_v but_o ministerial_a delivery_n by_o investiture_n yet_o in_o this_o case_n it_o will_v hold_v for_o 1._o this_o be_v suppose_v to_o be_v a_o new_a institution_n of_o a_o office_n 2._o and_o that_o of_o a_o high_a power_n than_o ever_o the_o institutor_n have_v themselves_o the_o king_n give_v all_o his_o officer_n their_o power_n but_o all_o of_o they_o can_v give_v the_o king_n his_o power_n the_o patriarch_n can_v make_v a_o pope_n nor_o the_o