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A85313 Presbyterial ordination vindicated. In a brief and sober discourse concerning episcopacy, as claiming greater power, and more eminent offices by divine right, then presbyterie. The arguments of the Reverend Bishop Dr Davenant in his determination for such episcopacy are modestly examined. And arguments for the validity of presbyterial ordination added. With a brief discourse concerning imposed forms of prayer, and ceremonies. Written by G.F. minister of the gospel in defence of his own ordination, being questioned, because it was performed by Presbyters. Firmin, Giles, 1614-1697. 1660 (1660) Wing F961; Thomason E1045_17; ESTC R208016 42,577 55

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est_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o this_o distribution_n of_o the_o key_n so_o as_o to_o give_v but_o the_o key_n of_o knowledge_n to_o the_o presbyter_n be_v not_o ground_v on_o scripture_n ergo_fw-la it_o be_v vain_a to_o thou_o do_v i_o give_v the_o key_n say_v our_o lord_n he_o do_v not_o civide_v the_o key_n give_v one_o key_n to_o one_o and_o both_o to_o another_o he_o give_v no_o single_a key_n to_o any_o person_n but_o key_n and_o so_o whatever_o those_o key_n serve_v for_o busil_n and_o dr._n fulk_n speak_v full_o for_o the_o key_n of_o jurisdiction_n belong_v to_o all_o pastor_n than_o the_o key_n of_o order_n as_o well_o iii_o timothy_n ordination_n be_v valid_a ordination_n arg._n 3_o but_o timothy_n ordination_n be_v presbyterial_a ordination_n ergo._n lay_v on_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o presbytery_n 1_o tim._n 4.14_o against_o this_o be_v object_v 1._o paul_n do_v impose_v his_o hand_n in_o timothy_n ordination_n and_o that_o be_v sufficient_a without_o the_o presbytery_n answ_n 1._o diodati_n conceive_v that_o by_o paul_n hand_n the_o miraculous_a gift_n be_v convey_v by_o the_o presbytery_n timothy_n be_v install_v in_o the_o ministry_n see_v he_o on_o 2_o tim._n 1.6_o i_o have_v speak_v to_o this_o in_o another_o treatise_n 2._o however_o the_o presbytery_n impose_v hand_n they_o have_v a_o power_n to_o do_v the_o work_n else_o paul_n will_v not_o have_v call_v they_o to_o it_o paul_n do_v not_o ordain_v timothy_n quatenus_fw-la apostle_n then_o your_o bishop_n be_v go_v
pag._n 240.390_o f●●b_n but_o when_o cresconius_n or_o other_o donatist_n will_v bring_v any_o thing_n out_o of_o he_o to_o prove_v what_o augustin_n judge_v a_o error_n he_o know_v how_o to_o set_v the_o scripture_n and_o apostle_n above_o he_o so_o do_v cyprian_n sharp_o speak_v against_o those_o who_o bring_v tradition_n for_o their_o proof_n qua_fw-la ista_fw-la obstinatio_fw-la qua_fw-la presumptio_fw-la humanam_fw-la traditionem_fw-la divine_a dispositîoni_fw-la anteponere_fw-la &_o c_o vnde_fw-la ista_fw-la traditio_fw-la vtrumne_n de_fw-fr dominica_fw-la &_o evangelica_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la descendens_fw-la 74._o ep_v 74._o &_o c_o so_o tertullian_n non_fw-la recipio_fw-la quod_fw-la extra_fw-la scripturam_fw-la de_fw-la two_o infert_fw-la bellarmine_n say_v enough_o patrum_fw-la scripta_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la regula_fw-la nec_fw-la habent_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la obligandi_fw-la to_o the_o scripture_n than_o let_v we_o go_v which_o speak_v so_o clear_a in_o this_o controversy_n that_o all_o man_n even_o the_o papist_n who_o call_v those_o man_n heretic_n that_o deny_v this_o superiority_n of_o bishop_n yet_o be_v force_v to_o yield_v it_o that_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n the_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n be_v the_o same_o let_v cajetan_n interpretation_n be_v hear_v upon_o tit._n 1.5_o 7._o vbi_fw-la adverte_fw-fr eundem_fw-la gradum_fw-la idemquè_fw-fr officium_fw-la significari_fw-la à_fw-la paulo_n nomine_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la &_o nomine_fw-la episcopi_fw-la as_o cross_v to_o bishop_n davenant_n as_o can_v be_v anselm_n the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n in_o his_o comment_n upon_o the_o same_o verse_n bring_v all_o hierons_n comment_n where_o he_o prove_v bishop_n and_o presbyter_n to_o be_v the_o same_o and_o no_o way_n oppose_v it_o estius_n who_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o disputation_n call_v they_o heretic_n who_o will_v not_o yield_v the_o superiority_n of_o bishop_n and_o that_o jure_fw-la divino_fw-la in_o the_o midst_n of_o his_o disputation_n have_v these_o word_n quod_fw-la autem_fw-la jure_fw-la divin●_n sint_fw-la episcopi_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la superiores_fw-la 25._o senten_n l._n 4._o d._n 24._o s._n 25._o etsi_fw-la non_fw-la ita_fw-la clarum_fw-la est_fw-la è_fw-la saoris_fw-la literis_fw-la aliunde_fw-la ramen_fw-la satis_fw-la efficaciter_fw-la probari_fw-la potest_fw-la probatur_fw-la tam_fw-la ratione_fw-la quàm_fw-la testimoniis_fw-la veterum_fw-la it_o seem_v then_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o clear_a enough_o to_o prove_v this_o superiority_n in_o his_o opinion_n and_o which_o be_v divine_o speak_v though_o he_o can_v not_o prove_v the_o divine_a right_n of_o this_o superiority_n out_o of_o the_o scripture_n yet_o he_o will_v prove_v it_o by_o reason_n and_o testimony_n of_o ancient_n haddit_n a_o presbyterian_a write_v thus_o he_o shall_v have_v be_v scorn_v to_o purpose_n take_v the_o papist_n again_o in_o their_o i._n c._n do_v 60._o sacre_n ordines_fw-la dicimus_fw-la diaconatum_fw-la &_o presbyteratum_fw-la hos_fw-la enimsolos_fw-la primitiva_fw-la legitur_fw-la habuisse_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la according_a to_o these_o then_o your_o antiquity_n for_o episcopacy_n must_v not_o go_v so_o high_a as_o the_o primitive_a church_n one_o more_o papist_n and_o i_o have_v do_v with_o they_o i_o find_v greg._n de_fw-fr valen._n 2._o de_fw-fr sacr._n ord._n disp_n 9_o q._n 1._o p._n 2._o quote_v of_o michael_n medina_n one_o of_o their_o own_o affirm_v that_o hierem_fw-la and_o all_o the_o father_n he_o have_v name_v before_o which_o be_v angustin_n ambrose_n chrysostom_n primasius_n theophylact_fw-mi and_o otcumenius_n fuisse_fw-la planè_fw-la in_o errore_fw-la acrii_fw-la but_o the_o church_n do_v not_o condemn_v this_o error_n in_o they_o but_o bare_a with_o they_o because_o they_o be_v otherwise_o orthodox_n but_o do_v condemn_v it_o in_o acrius_fw-la be_v otherwise_o in_o multis_fw-la nominibus_fw-la hareticus_fw-la then_o it_o seem_v acrius_fw-la who_o be_v against_o this_o 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be_v especial_o choose_v and_o earnest_o desire_v by_o his_o fellow_n presbyter_n to_o do_v it_o iu_o arg._n 4_o if_o prophet_n and_o teacher_n may_v separate_v apostle_n to_o their_o work_n by_o fast_v prayer_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n then_o may_v presbyter_n ordain_v presbyter_n and_o that_o ordination_n be_v valid_a but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a act_v 13.1_o 2_o 3._o ergo._n teacher_n be_v inferior_a to_o prophet_n and_o all_o preach_a presbyter_n i_o hope_v be_v teacher_n but_o these_o impose_v hand_n the_o prophet_n be_v inferior_a to_o apostle_n object_n but_o this_o be_v not_o ordination_n answ_n i_o have_v speak_v to_o this_o in_o another_o treatise_n more_o large_o but_o i_o can_v name_v and_o have_v name_v there_o several_a of_o the_o father_n lutheran_n and_o calvinist_n who_o say_v it_o be_v ordination_n and_o for_o the_o papist_n divers_a of_o those_o i_o can_v mention_v who_o call_v it_o ordination_n if_o it_o be_v not_o ordination_n i_o pray_v what_o be_v it_o we_o find_v barnabas_n after_o this_o act_n be_v call_v a_o apostle_n act_v 14.14_o but_o so_o he_o be_v never_o before_o he_o be_v at_o the_o high_a but_o a_o prophet_n as_o the_o text_n declare_v so_o jerom_n keel_n catal._n script_n keel_n speak_v of_o barnahas_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v a_o separation_n to_o a_o work_n and_o what_o do_v you_o more_o in_o ordination_n than_o be_v here_o set_v down_o but_o i_o speak_v no_o more_o of_o it_o in_o this_o place_n because_o as_o i_o say_v i_o have_v do_v it_o before_o v._o arg._n 5_o those_o who_o have_v authority_n to_o perform_v the_o great_a ministerial_a act_n they_o have_v power_n to_o perform_v the_o less_o but_o prebyter_n have_v authority_n to_o perform_v the_o great_a ergo._n for_o the_o major_n those_o who_o will_v deny_v it_o give_v we_o a_o sound_n and_o convince_a reason_n why_o they_o do_v so_o i_o can_v imagine_v one_o à_fw-la majore_fw-la ad_fw-la minus_fw-la valet_fw-la consequentia_fw-la in_o this_o 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