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A31482 Certain briefe treatises written by diverse learned men, concerning the ancient and moderne government of the church : wherein both the primitive institution of episcopacie is maintained, and the lawfulnesse of the ordination of the Protestant ministers beyond the seas likewise defended, the particulars whereof are set downe in the leafe following. 1641 (1641) Wing C1687A; ESTC R8074 96,833 184

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the_o apostle_n irenaelig_v lib._n 3._o tap_n 3._o tertull._n de_fw-fr praelig_n script_n cyprian_a ad_fw-la florent_fw-la 3.9_o epiphan_n haeres_fw-la 27._o romaefuerunt_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la primi_fw-la petrus_n &_o paulus_n apostoli_fw-la ijdem_fw-la ac_fw-la episcopi_fw-la chrysost_n in_o act._n 3._o jacobus_n episcopus_fw-la hierosolymitanus_n hieronym_n epist_n 85._o &_o 54._o ad_fw-la marcellam_fw-la &_o the_o scriptorib_n ecclesiast_fw-la in_o petro_n &_o jacobo_n ambros_n in_o 1._o corinth_n 11._o de_o angelis_n &_o in_o ephes_n 4._o apostolis_n angeli_fw-la sunt_fw-la of_o deacon_n at_o the_o beginning_n the_o whole_a weight_n of_o the_o church_n affair_n lay_v upon_o the_o apostle_n the_o distribution_n as_o well_o of_o the_o sacrament_n act._n 2.42_o as_o of_o the_o oblation_n act._n 4.35_o the_o ordination_n act_n 6.6_o the_o government_n act_n 5.3_o but_o upon_o occasion_n of_o the_o greek_n complaint_n who_o widow_n be_v not_o due_o regard_v in_o the_o daily_a 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