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A20517 A reply to M. Nicholas Smith, his discussion, of some pointes of M. Doctour Kellison his treatise of the hierarchie. By a divine Divine.; Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640?; Kellison, Matthew. 1630 (1630) STC 6929; ESTC S109712 163,687 351

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be_v true_a that_o christ_n be_v head_n to_o the_o apostle_n and_o
disciple_n and_o so_o under_o christ_n be_v s._n peter_n 21._o joan_n 21._o as_o now_o the_o pope_n his_o successor_n be_v to_o all_o christian_n but_o that_o the_o apostle_n or_o disciple_n live_v under_o christ_n first_o and_o after_o under_o s._n peter_n as_o religious_a under_o a_o abbot_n can_v so_o easy_o be_v prove_v 82._o this_o i_o have_v say_v only_o to_o show_v that_o it_o be_v not_o so_o certain_a as_o m._n nicholas_n seem_v to_o make_v it_o that_o the_o apostle_n be_v religiou●●en_v but_o not_o in_o any_o case_n to_o take_v from_o the_o regulars_n any_o honour_n to_o which_o they_o may_v make_v any_o probable_a claim_n and_o therefore_o i_o leave_v this_o opinion_n which_o some_o hold_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v religious_a in_o all_o the_o probability_n it_o may_v have_v not_o intend_v to_o derogate_v to_o it_o and_o this_o which_o i_o have_v say_v i_o will_v not_o have_v say_v have_v not_o m._n nicholas_n egg_v and_o provoke_v i_o in_o his_o 4._o qu._n n._n 29._o the_o 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perfect_v and_o illuminate_v as_o we_o shall_v show_v by_o and_o by_o second_o we_o may_v compare_v state_n with_o state_n to_o wit_n the_o state_n of_o a_o secular_a priest_n with_o the_o state_n of_o the_o regular_a and_o then_o i_o say_v that_o a_o secular_a priest_n as_o a_o secular_a priest_n that_o be_v consider_v as_o in_o that_o state_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o it_o consist_v of_o diverse_a order_n by_o reason_n of_o his_o order_n and_o character_n and_o because_o this_o character_n make_v he_o apt_a for_o jurisdiction_n he_o be_v apt_a also_o to_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o it_o import_v degree_n in_o jurisdiction_n but_o the_o regular_a as_o regular_a that_o be_v take_v preciselie_o in_o the_o state_n of_o a_o regular_a be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n because_o as_o a_o regular_a he_o have_v neither_o order_n nor_o jurisdiction_n and_o so_o the_o secular_a priest_n by_o virtue_n of_o his_o state_n of_o priesthood_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n the_o regular_a by_o virtue_n of_o his_o state_n of_o regular_a be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n though_o if_o he_o be_v bishop_n priest_n or_o deacon_n etc._n etc._n he_o be_v also_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o much_o as_o the_o secular_a bishop_n or_o priest_n but_o as_o regular_a he_o be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o if_o as_o regular_a he_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n than_o all_o regular_o even_o lay_v brother_n and_o religious_a woman_n shall_v be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n 4._o for_o as_o because_o it_o agree_v to_o man_n as_o man_n to_o be_v risibilis_fw-la it_o agree_v to_o every_o man_n to_o be_v risibilis_fw-la so_o if_o it_o agree_v to_o a_o regular_a as_o regular_a to_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n every_o regular_a though_o but_o a_o converse_v or_o a_o lay_v brother_n or_o sister_n must_v be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n 5._o wherefore_o dionysius_n carthusianus_n use_v m._n doctor_n reduplication_n 6._o diony_n carthe_n art_n 13._o in_o theorian_n c._n 6._o for_o he_o explicate_a s._n dionysius_n areopagita_n say_v that_o s._n denys_n declarat_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la significat_fw-la monachorum_fw-la ordinem_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la pralatum_fw-la alijs_fw-la iurisdictionaliter_fw-la atque_fw-la pralaticè_fw-la in_fw-la quantum_fw-la sunt_fw-la monachi_fw-la do_v declare_v that_o be_v signify_v that_o the_o order_n of_o monk_n as_o they_o be_v monk_n behold_v his_o reduplication_n be_v not_o place_v over_o other_o jurisdictionallie_o and_o in_o manner_n of_o prelate_n though_o the_o same_o author_n present_o after_o grant_v that_o monk_n in_o their_o own_o order_n have_v prelacy_n over_o other_o as_o abbot_n and_o priour_n have_v and_o that_o in_o late_a time_n religious_a man_n be_v more_o frequent_o admit_v to_o be_v priest_n which_o m._n doctor_n also_o grant_v 6._o wherefore_o m._n nicholas_n must_v not_o except_v against_o that_o reduplication_n of_o regulars_n as_o regulars_n lest_o he_o except_v against_o the_o mission_n of_o regulars_n in_o o_o england_n for_o although_o their_o observe_v of_o their_o vow_n and_o rule_n do_v much_o perfect_v they_o if_o they_o observe_v they_o as_o they_o shall_v do_v yet_o as_o regulars_n they_o can_v do_v little_a good_a in_o england_n in_o this_o time_n of_o persecution_n for_o that_o they_o can_v not_o keep_v the_o choir_n and_o cloister_n they_o can_v rise_v at_o midnight_n to_o sing_v matin_n they_o can_v wear_v their_o habit_n nor_o use_v abstinence_n or_o other_o austerity_n externallie_o thereby_o to_o give_v good_a example_n for_o that_o by_o reason_n of_o persecution_n they_o fare_v as_o other_o be_v lodge_v and_o clothe_v &_o have_v almost_o in_o all_o thing_n the_o same_o liberty_n that_o other_o have_v and_o so_o as_o priest_n they_o be_v send_v to_o england_n and_o as_o priest_n by_o preach_v and_o minister_a sacrament_n they_o be_v most_o beneficall_a to_o our_o country_n 7._o corp_n 2.2_o q._n 184_o a._n 8_o in_o corp_n and_o that_o priest_n not_o curate_n or_o pastor_n be_v in_o a_o perfect_a state_n than_o regulars_n as_o regulars_n not_o priest_n thomas_n planelie_o teach_v who_o compare_v religious_a with_o secular_a priest_n who_o be_v curate_n or_o archdeacon_n say_v only_o that_o a_o religious_a man_n as_o religious_a excel_v the_o secular_a priest_n not_o as_o priest_n but_o as_o in_o state_n of_o secular_a and_o no_o marvel_n for_o so_o the_o priest_n be_v consider_v as_o he_o aggrege_v with_o lay_v man_n and_o therefore_o a_o little_a after_o in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o say_v si_fw-la vero_fw-la religiosus_fw-la etiam_fw-la ordine_fw-la careat_fw-la sicut_fw-la patet_fw-la de_fw-la conversis_fw-la religionum_fw-la sic_fw-la manifestum_fw-la est_fw-la excellere_fw-la praeeminentiam_fw-la ordinis_fw-la quantum_fw-la ad_fw-la dignitatem_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o if_o the_o religious_a want_v also_o order_n as_o converse_n doc_fw-fr so_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o preeminence_n of_o order_n do_v excel_v in_o dignity_n because_o by_o holy_a order_n one_o be_v depute_v to_o most_o worthy_a ministery_n by_o which_o service_n be_v do_v to_o christ_n himself_o in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o altar_n to_o which_o be_v require_v great_a interior_a sanctity_n than_o the_o state_n of_o religion_n require_v because_o as_o dionysius_n say_v in_o his_o sixth_o chapter_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n the_o monastical_a order_n ought_v to_o follow_v priestly_a order_n and_o by_o their_o imitation_n to_o ascend_v to_o divine_a thing_n thus_o s._n thomas_n and_o who_o doubt_v but_o that_o the_o holy_a order_n of_o priesthood_n especial_o excel_v the_o regular_a state_n which_o be_v no_o h●ly_a order_n and_o consequent_o who_o can_v doubt_v but_o that_o a_o priest_n as_o priest_n be_v in_o a_o high_a state_n than_o a_o regular_a as_o regular_n 2._o val._n to_o 3._o disp_n 10_o q._n 2._o punct_a 5._o conc_fw-fr 2._o valentia_n a_o jesuite_n speak_v of_o inferior_a prelate_n say_v simo_n in_o
eiusmodi_fw-la praelatis_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o in_o such_o prelate_n we_o confider_v the_o degree_n of_o the_o holy_a order_n speak_v simple_o there_o be_v some_o thing_n in_o they_o worthy_a and_o more_o perfect_a then_o in_o the_o religious_a as_o religious_a not_o in_o holy_a order_n where_o we_o see_v he_o use_v m._n doctor_n reduplication_n which_o offend_v m._n nicholas_n and_o prefer_v the_o holy_a order_n before_o the_o state_n and_o perfection_n of_o a_o religious_a man_n who_o be_v not_o in_o holy_a order_n m._n nicholas_n i_o grante_v that_o if_o we_o limit_v the_o name_n of_o hierarchy_n to_o bishop_n priest_n deacon_n etc._n etc._n then_o to_o say_v that_o religious_a not_o priest_n or_o bishop_n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n be_v no_o more_o than_o to_o say_v religious_a not_o priest_n or_o bishop_n be_v no_o priest_n or_o bishop_n which_o sure_o be_v no_o great_a mystery_n but_o than_o it_o shall_v be_v prove_v with_o what_o ground_n the_o mame_n of_o hierarchy_n shall_v be_v so_o limit_v n._n 2._o the_o reply_n how_o regular_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o how_o they_o be_v not_o 8._o m._n nicholas_n from_o this_o place_n begin_v to_o prove_v that_o regulars_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o true_o if_o either_o god_n or_o his_o church_n have_v bestow_v that_o honour_n on_o they_o god_n forbid_v that_o i_o shall_v go_v about_o to_o take_v it_o from_o they_o rather_o i_o will_v by_o word_n and_o writing_n defend_v it_o and_o hazard_n even_o my_o life_n to_o assure_v it_o the_o more_o unto_o they_o but_o if_o neither_o god_n nor_o his_o church_n have_v give_v they_o this_o honour_n neither_o must_v we_o give_v it_o to_o they_o lest_o we_o break_v god_n his_o ordinance_n neither_o shall_v they_o desire_v it_o but_o as_o the_o laiety_n murmure_v not_o against_o the_o clergy_n as_o core_n dathan_n and_o abiron_n 16._o num._n 16._o and_o their_o follower_n do_v against_o moses_n and_o aaron_n for_o that_o they_o may_v not_o preach_v nor_o minister_v sacrament_n and_o as_o those_o of_o the_o secular_a clergy_n ought_v not_o to_o take_v it_o in_o evil_a part_n that_o they_o be_v not_o esteem_v religious_a so_o neither_o shall_v the_o religious_a be_v offend_v if_o we_o say_v that_o they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n neither_o god_n nor_o his_o church_n have_v bestow_v that_o honour_n upon_o they_o though_o they_o be_v adorn_v with_o many_o other_o grace_n rather_o they_o may_v rejoice_v in_o god_n that_o they_o have_v many_o perfection_n of_o a_o religious_a life_n which_o other_o have_v not_o and_o be_v furnish_v with_o more_o mean_n to_o attain_v to_o perfection_n then_o secular_a priest_n have_v and_o that_o their_o state_n be_v more_o secure_a and_o free_a from_o danger_n then_o any_o other_o state_n be_v 9_o and_o if_o m._n nicholas_n who_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v they_o to_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n mean_v only_o that_o they_o be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v a_o hierarchy_n neither_o m._n doctor_n nor_o any_o good_a catholic_a will_n or_o can_v deny_v it_o nay_o m._n doctor_n in_o his_o hierarchy_n 7._o chap._n 8._o n._n 7._o say_v that_o religious_a man_n as_o religious_a be_v a_o great_a ornament_n to_o the_o church_n and_o be_v in_o this_o sense_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n in_o that_o they_o be_v eminent_a member_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v ordain_v to_o help_v and_o assist_v bishop_n and_o pastor_n etc._n etc._n 10._o but_o if_o he_o mean_v that_o they_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o common_o it_o be_v take_v by_o s._n denys_n and_o divine_n for_o that_o part_n of_o the_o church_n which_o govern_v illuminate_v perfect_v and_o purge_v the_o rest_n by_o preach_v and_o administration_n of_o sacrament_n etc._n etc._n so_o only_a bishop_n pastor_n priest_n and_o other_o minister_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n the_o holy_a council_n of_o trent_n take_v the_o hierarchy_n say_v si_fw-mi quis_fw-la dixerit_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la hierarchiam_fw-la divina_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la institutam_fw-la quae_fw-la constat_fw-la ex_fw-la episcopis_fw-la &_o pres_n byter_fw-mi be_v &_o ministris_fw-la anathema_n sit_v if_o any_o shall_v say_v that_o there_o be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n a_o hierarchy_n institute_v by_o the_o divine_a ordinance_n which_o consist_v of_o bishop_n and_o priest_n and_o minister_n let_v he_o be_v accurse_v 6._o sess_n 23_o can_n 6._o where_o we_o see_v that_o the_o hierarchy_n be_v take_v only_o for_o that_o part_n of_o the_o church_n which_o consist_v of_o bishop_n priest_n and_o minister_n and_o see_v that_o regulars_n as_o regulars_n be_v neither_o bishop_n priest_n nor_o minister_n in_o the_o church_n as_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n be_v they_o be_v not_o as_o regulars_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o this_o sense_n for_o if_o as_o regulars_n they_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o this_o sense_n then_o lay_v brother_n and_o sister_n who_o be_v true_o regulars_n shall_v be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o the_o same_o sense_n and_o so_o shall_v be_v comprehend_v under_o bishop_n or_o priest_n or_o minister_n in_o the_o church_n 11._o and_o therefore_o i_o wonder_v that_o m._n nicholas_n pag._n 165._o shall_v say_v that_o it_o be_v temeritie_n to_o affirm_v that_o the_o council_n intend_v to_o define_v as_o a_o matter_n of_o fayto_fw-mi that_o under_o the_o name_n of_o hierarchy_n can_v be_v comprehend_v only_a bishop_n priest_n or_o other_o minister_n endue_v with_o order_n or_o jurisdiction_n rather_o it_o may_v seem_v great_a temeritie_n in_o m._n nicholas_n to_o comprehend_v regulars_n as_o regulars_n under_o that_o definition_n they_o as_o such_o be_v neither_o bishop_n nor_o priest_n nor_o minister_n in_o the_o church_n but_o peradventure_o m._n nicholas_n will_v comprehend_v regulars_n under_o th●_n word_n minister_n and_o why_o so_o be_v they_o as_o regulars_n minister_n in_o the_o church_n who_o as_o regulars_n can_v not_o by_o office_n preach_v or_o minister_v sacrament_n or_o assist_v at_o the_o altar_n with_o the_o deacon_n and_o subdeacon_n do_v he_o ever_o read_v or_o hear_v that_o regulars_n be_v call_v minister_n of_o the_o church_n certes_o vasquez_n a_o jesuite_n and_o regular_n 2._o vasq_fw-la to_o 3._o disp_n 238._o c._n 2._o under_o that_o word_n ministris_fw-la minister_n comprehend_v only_a deacon_n not_o other_o inferior_a minister_n much_o less_o under_o that_o word_n will_v he_o understand_v regulars_n who_o as_o regulars_n be_v never_o call_v minister_n in_o the_o church_n they_o as_o regulars_n have_v no_o church-function_n other_o under_o that_o word_n minister_n understand_v deacon_n and_o subdeacons_n but_o none_o understand_v regulars_n 22._o m._n doctor_n in_o his_o hierarchy_n chap._n 15._o touch_v this_o question_n whether_o regular_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o the_o former_a sense_n and_o indeed_o he_o seem_v only_o to_o touch_v it_o and_o that_o with_o great_a moderation_n and_o respect_n to_o religious_a and_o therefore_o allege_v no_o author_n for_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o and_o i_o also_o because_o i_o will_v not_o give_v the_o least_o occasion_n of_o offence_n will_v have_v be_v spare_v in_o this_o matter_n but_o that_o m._n nicholas_n urge_v i_o much_o in_o his_o 6._o question_n where_o he_o handle_v this_o point_n at_o large_a and_o say_v n._n 1_o that_o nothing_o be_v more_o frequent_a then_o that_o some_o person_n he_o seem_v to_o mean_v m._n doctor_n for_o one_o who_o i_o dare_v say_v scarce_o ever_o read_v s._n denys_n nor_o ever_o be_v much_o conversant_a in_o s._n thomas_n of_o aquin_n from_o who_o we_o have_v the_o best_a and_o almost_o only_a treatise_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n wilbe_n discourse_v of_o the_o secular_a clergy_n as_o though_o they_o only_o be_v of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n and_o because_o m._n nicholas_n will_v seem_v to_o be_v more_o conversant_a in_o s._n denys_n and_o s._n thomas_n than_o other_o be_v and_o say_v that_o from_o they_o we_o have_v the_o best_a and_o almost_o only_a treatise_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n i_o shall_v especial_o examine_v what_o s._n denys_n say_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o i_o will_v show_v so_o plain_o and_o clear_o out_o of_o he_o from_o whence_o indeed_o s._n thomas_n and_o all_o divine_v have_v learned_a that_o which_o they_o say_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n that_o regular_o in_o his_o opinion_n and_o as_o he_o take_v the_o word_n hierarchy_n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n that_o the_o reader_n will_v confess_v that_o either_o m._n nicholas_n never_o read_v s._n denys_n and_o so_o be_v of_o the_o number_n of_o they_o who_o as_o he_o say_v scarce_o ever_o read_v s._n denys_n or_o if_o he_o read_v he_o that_o he_o understand_v he_o not_o or_o witting_o and_o willing_o dissemble_v his_o opinion_n 13._o 5._o l._n de_fw-fr eccl._n hierarch_n cap._n 5._o s._n
denys_n then_o in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n speak_v of_o those_o who_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n recken_v only_o the_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n and_o say_v that_o the_o bishop_n office_n be_v to_o perfect_a the_o priest_n to_o illuminate_v the_o deacon_n to_o purge_v and_o in_o the_o say_a chapter_n in_o his_o contemplation_n he_o tell_v how_o they_o all_o three_o be_v ordain_v and_o the_o bishop_n he_o say_v be_v the_o first_o and_o chief_a order_n in_o who_o the_o rest_n be_v consummate_v for_o say_v he_o as_o the_o whole_a hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n be_v consummate_v in_o the_o chief_a hierarch_n and_o bishop_n christ_n so_o every_o spiritual_a and_o particular_a hierarchy_n that_o be_v every_o particular_a church_n be_v terminate_v and_o consummate_v in_o its_o proper_a bishop_n which_o may_v be_v note_v against_o m._n nicholas_n who_o will_v have_v a_o particular_a church_n without_o a_o particular_a bishop_n so_o that_o s._n denys_n in_o the_o hierarchy_n place_v only_a bishop_n priest_n &_o deacon_n to_o who_o be_v reduce_v subdeacons_n and_o other_o inferior_a order_n if_o especial_o these_o be_v of_o the_o divine_a institution_n of_o which_o point_n m._n doctor_n have_v dispute_v in_o his_o hierarchy_n 14._o 6._o dion_n l._n eccl._n high_a c._n 6._o in_o the_o next_o chapter_n which_o be_v the_o sixth_o he_o treat_v of_o the_o three_o order_n of_o those_o that_o be_v perfect_v and_o dionysius_n carthusianus_n in_o his_o elucidation_n or_o explication_n of_o this_o sixth_o chapter_n say_v that_o s._n denys_n in_o the_o former_a chapter_n treat_v of_o the_o three_o order_n of_o perfector_n that_o be_v the_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n but_o now_o in_o the_o sixth_o chapter_n he_o speak_v of_o three_o order_n of_o those_o that_o be_v perfect_v and_o he_o observe_v that_o when_o s._n denys_n speak_v of_o the_o three_o order_n of_o those_o that_o perfect_a other_o the_o name_n order_n signify_v a_o name_n of_o dignity_n but_o when_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o three_o order_n of_o they_o that_o be_v perfect_v the_o name_n order_n signify_v no_o name_n of_o dignity_n but_o rather_o be_v a_o name_n of_o subjection_n 15._o s._n denys_n in_o that_o sixth_o chapter_n say_v that_o the_o order_n of_o those_o who_o be_v perfect_v be_v in_o general_n three_o the_o last_o as_o dionysius_n carthusianus_n explicate_v to_o wit_n they_o that_o be_v purge_v be_v 5._o that_o be_v catechumenes_n energumenes_n apostate_n vicious_a infirm_a and_o timide_a or_o fearful_a person_n the_o next_o above_o they_o be_v the_o people_n baptize_v and_o admit_v to_o the_o sacred_a euchariste_n the_o high_a order_n of_o those_o that_o be_v perfect_v be_v the_o monk_n and_o religious_a who_o therefore_o be_v call_v according_a to_o the_o translation_n of_o lanselius_n summus_n corum_fw-la qui_fw-la initiantur_fw-la &_o perficiuntur_fw-la ordo_fw-la the_o chief_a order_n of_o those_o that_o be_v initiate_v and_o perfect_v not_o the_o chief_a in_o the_o church_n because_o s._n denys_n place_v bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n before_o they_o but_o the_o first_o of_o those_o who_o be_v initiate_v and_o perfect_v dion_n cart._n say_v that_o the_o order_n of_o monk_n be_v perfectus_fw-la inter_fw-la perficiendos_fw-la perfect_a amongst_o those_o that_o be_v to_o be_v perfect_v but_o not_o amongst_o those_o that_o perfect_a other_o 6._o art_n 13._o super_fw-la that_o 6._o 16._o all_o this_o may_v be_v confirm_v by_o what_o s._n denys_n say_v in_o his_o epistle_n to_o demophilus_n monk_n where_o check_v he_o for_o have_v kick_v a_o penitent_a who_o be_v confess_v to_o the_o priest_n and_o for_o contemptuouslie_o use_v the_o priest_n himself_o he_o take_v he_o up_o in_o these_o word_n nefas_fw-la est_fw-la sacerdorem_fw-la a_o ministris_fw-la qui_fw-la to_o superiores_fw-la sunt_fw-la aut_fw-la à_fw-la tui_fw-la ordinis_fw-la monachis_fw-la corrigi_fw-la &_o reprehendi_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a that_o a_o priest_n shall_v be_v correct_v or_o reprehend_v by_o the_o minister_n who_o be_v above_o thou_o or_o of_o the_o monk_n of_o they_o order_n etc._n etc._n and_o he_o give_v the_o reason_n say_v sacerdotes_fw-la autem_fw-la nuncij_fw-la atque_fw-la interpretes_n secundum_fw-la pontifices_fw-la sunt_fw-la dininorum_fw-la iudiciorum_fw-la ab_fw-la eye_v rectè_fw-la &_o ordine_fw-la t●_n per_fw-la medios_fw-la interiectosque_fw-la ministros_fw-la cum_fw-la tempus_fw-la posiulabit_fw-la divina_fw-la disce_fw-la à_fw-la quibus_fw-la etiam_fw-la ut_fw-la monachus_fw-la esses_fw-la habuisti_fw-la an_fw-mi non_fw-la hoc_fw-la etiam_fw-la clamant_fw-la sacramysteria_fw-it neque_fw-la enim_fw-la planè_fw-la omnibus_fw-la aditus_fw-la ad_fw-la sancta_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la interdictus_fw-la est_fw-la sed_fw-la proximè_fw-la ad_fw-la ea_fw-la accedit_fw-la pontificum_fw-la ordo_fw-la deinde_fw-la sacerdotum_fw-la tum_fw-la secundum_fw-la hos_fw-la ministrorum_fw-la ijs_fw-la autem_fw-la qui_fw-la monachi_fw-la instituti_fw-la sunt_fw-la valuae_fw-la adytorum_fw-la occlusae_fw-la sunt_fw-la ad_fw-la quas_fw-la &_o initiantur_fw-la &_o assistunt_fw-la non_fw-la ut_fw-la eas_fw-la custodiant_fw-la sed_fw-la ut_fw-la agnoscant_fw-la &_o se_fw-la &_o ordinem_fw-la suum_fw-la propiusque_fw-la populum_fw-la quam_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la ordinis_fw-la homines_fw-la accedunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n priest_n next_o to_o the_o bishop_n be_v the_o messenger_n or_o relater_n and_o interpreter_n of_o the_o divine_a judgement_n of_o they_o by_o mean_n of_o the_o middle_a minister_n right_o and_o by_o order_n when_o the_o time_n shall_v require_v do_v thou_o learn_v the_o divine_a thing_n of_o who_o also_o thou_o have_v that_o thou_o be_v monk_n do_v not_o the_o sacred_a mystery_n erye_z this_o for_o that_o all_o be_v not_o interdict_v access_n to_o the_o holies_n of_o holies_n but_o next_o to_o they_o have_v access_n the_o order_n of_o bishop_n then_o of_o priest_n then_o after_o they_o of_o the_o minister_n but_o to_o they_o who_o be_v institute_v monk_n the_o door_n of_o the_o chaunselle_n or_o secret_a place_n of_o the_o temple_n be_v shut_v at_o which_o they_o be_v initiate_v and_o do_v assist_v not_o to_o keep_v they_o but_o that_o they_o may_v acknowledge_v themselves_o and_o their_o order_n and_o they_o do_v approach_v near_o to_o the_o people_n than_o the_o man_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a order_n do_v by_o which_o it_o appear_v that_o according_a to_o s._n denis_n regulars_n in_o his_o time_n wen_n exclude_v from_o the_o presbytery_n and_o the_o chaunsell_n and_o only_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o door_n but_o be_v not_o admit_v into_o that_o holy_a and_o secret_a place_n 17._o but_o let_v we_o hear_v a_o worthy_a regular_n speak_v father_n john_n de_fw-fr s_o françois_fw-fr general_n in_o his_o time_n of_o the_o order_n of_o s._n bernard_n call_v the_o order_n of_o the_o fueillianes_n in_o paris_n who_o be_v famous_a for_o his_o translation_n of_o s._n denis_n his_o work_n into_o french_a he_o in_o his_o apollogie_n for_o these_o work_n in_o answer_v a_o objection_n make_v by_o scaliger_n against_o they_o have_v these_o word_n 74._o chap._n 13._o pag._n 74._o rour_n l'intelligence_n de_fw-fr ce_fw-fr que_fw-fr nous_fw-fr disons_fw-fr faut_fw-fr supposer_n que_fw-fr saint_n denis_n voulant_fw-la montrer_fw-fr le_fw-fr bell_n order_fw-fr qui_fw-fr est_fw-fr en_fw-fr la_fw-fr hierarchy_n de_fw-fr l'eglise_fw-fr divise_fw-mi tout_fw-fr le_fw-fr peuple_fw-fr chrestien_n en_fw-fr deux_fw-fr party_n dont_fw-fr l'vne_n est_fw-fr celle_fw-fr du_fw-fr clergé_fw-fr l'autre_fw-fr est_fw-fr du_fw-fr peuple_fw-fr laique_fw-fr il_fw-fr distingue_fw-fr tout_fw-fr le_fw-fr clergé_fw-fr en_fw-fr trois_fw-fr ordres_n le_fw-fr premier_fw-fr esi_fw-la celuy_fw-fr des_fw-fr euesques_n l'autre_fw-fr des_fw-fr prestre_n &_o le_v tier_n de_fw-fr liturge_n etc._n etc._n for_o the_o understanding_n of_o this_o which_o we_o say_v it_o must_v be_v suppose_v that_o s._n denys_n intend_v to_o show_v the_o goodly_a order_n which_o be_v in_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n devide_v all_o the_o christian_a people_n into_o two_o part_n of_o which_o the_o one_o be_v that_o of_o the_o clergy_n the_o other_o of_o the_o lie_v people_n he_o distinguish_v all_o the_o clergy_n into_o three_o order_n the_o first_o be_v that_o of_o the_o bishop_n the_o other_o of_o priest_n and_o the_o three_o of_o the_o liturge_n that_o be_v deacon_n to_o who_o the_o other_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n be_v reduce_v he_o distribu_v the_o people_n in_o like_a manner_n into_o three_o quire_n the_o first_o be_v that_o of_o catechumenes_n energumenes_n and_o penstent_n the_o second_o part_n be_v that_o which_o be_v the_o holy_a people_n and_o the_o three_o be_v of_o the_o monk_n and_o because_o that_o all_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n consist_v in_o three_o thing_n either_o in_o purge_v or_o illuminate_v or_o perfect_v or_o in_o be_v purge_v illuminate_v or_o perfect_v therefore_o he_o s._n denys_n call_v the_o order_n of_o liturge_n deacon_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d purgative_a order_n that_o of_o priest_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d illuminative_a and_o that_o of_o the_o bishop_n 〈◊〉_d
〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d perfective_a or_o perfect_a respectivelie_o he_o s._n denys_n call_v the_o catechumenes_n energuman_n and_o penitent_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o order_n that_o be_v purge_v the_o sole_o people_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d illuminate_v and_o the_o order_n of_o monk_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d perfect_v 18._o and_o a_o little_a after_o this_o author_n add_v voylà_fw-fr do_n premierement_n comme_fw-fr il_fw-fr constitue_n les_fw-fr moyne_n entrele_n peuple_fw-fr laique_fw-fr qui_fw-fr esloient_fw-fr ceux_fw-fr qui_fw-fr faisoyent_n profession_n d'vne_n plus_fw-fr grande_fw-fr perfection_n que_fw-fr les_fw-fr autres_fw-fr &_o d'vne_n vie_fw-fr plus_fw-fr devote_v &_o spirituelle_fw-fr renonçans_fw-fr anx_n affection_n &_o soucis_fw-la d●s_fw-la choses_fw-fr de_fw-fr ce_fw-fr monde_fw-fr se_fw-fr devoüan_n &_o consacrans_fw-la totalement_fw-fr au_fw-fr service_n de_fw-fr dieu_fw-fr etc._n etc._n behold_v then_o first_o of_o all_o how_o he_o s._n denys_n place_v the_o monk_n amongst_o the_o lay_a people_n which_o monk_n be_v they_o who_o make_v profession_n of_o a_o great_a perfection_n than_o other_o and_o of_o a_o life_n more_o denoute_n and_o spiritual_a renounce_v the_o affection_n and_o care_n of_o the_o thing_n of_o this_o world_n vow_v and_o consecrate_v themselves_o whole_o to_o the_o service_n of_o god_n 6._o l._n de_fw-fr hier._n eccl._n c_o 6._o &c_n &c_n and_o after_o that_o to_o wit_n in_o the_o page_n 76._o and_o 77._o he_o relate_v out_o of_o s._n denys_n how_o the_o priest_n that_o be_v under_o the_o bishop_n have_v the_o office_n to_o consecrate_v the_o monk_n who_o make_v say_v he_o their_o profession_n entre_fw-fr les_fw-fr mains_fw-fr des_fw-fr prestre_n ●●_o dessoub_n des_fw-fr euesques_n betwixt_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o priest_n under_o the_o bishop_n and_o pag._n 78._o this_o author_n show_v out_o of_o s._n denys_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o demophilus_n how_o the_o rank_n and_o place_n of_o the_o monk_n in_o publicque_a assembly_n be_v with_o the_o lay_a people_n though_o as_o we_o have_v see_v they_o be_v above_o the_o people_n and_o under_o the_o clergy_n and_o say_v this_o author_n leur_fw-fr estoit_fw-fr deffendu_fw-fr d'entrer_fw-fr dans_fw-fr le_fw-fr presbytere_o it_o be_v ferbidden_v they_o to_o enter_v into_o the_o presbytery_n all_o which_o and_o more_o s._n denys_n himself_o have_v in_o his_o five_o and_o sixth_o chapter_n of_o his_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n as_o may_v partly_o appear_v by_o that_o which_o i_o have_v allege_v out_o of_o those_o two_o chapter_n 19_o by_o this_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o according_a to_o s._n denys_n and_o as_o he_o understand_v the_o word_n hierarchy_n the_o regulars_n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n that_o be_v of_o that_o part_n of_o the_o church_n which_o govern_v the_o rest_n and_o minister_v sacrament_n and_o preach_v and_o thereby_o purge_v illuminate_v and_o perfect_v which_o as_o s._n denys_n say_v be_v the_o proper_a action_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o be_v call_v hierarchicall_a action_n which_o also_o be_v exercise_v in_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o angel_n in_o which_o the_o superior_a order_n illuminate_v purge_v and_o perfect_v the_o inferior_a and_o therefore_o in_o s._n denis_n his_o time_n regular_o take_v their_o place_n beneath_o the_o clergy_n and_o above_o the_o lay_a people_n and_o although_o in_o late_a time_n the_o regulars_n enjoy_v the_o clericall_a privilege_n and_o be_v more_o frequent_o ordain_v subdiacon_n deacon_n priest_n yea_o and_o bishop_n and_o as_o such_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n yet_o as_o regulars_n they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o s._n denys_n his_o opinion_n for_o then_o in_o his_o time_n also_o they_o shall_v have_v be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o m._n nicholas_n who_o tell_v we_o that_o many_o who_o never_o read_v s._n denys_n be_v forward_o to_o discourse_v of_o the_o clergy_n as_o though_o they_o only_o be_v 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