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A10609 A remonstrance: or plaine detection of some of the faults and hideous sores of such sillie syllogismes and impertinent allegations, as out of sundrie factious pamphlets and rhapsodies, are cobled vp together in a booke, entituled, A demonstration of discipline wherein also, the true state of the controuersie of most of the points in variance, is (by the way) declared. Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629, attributed name. 1590 (1590) STC 20881; ESTC S115774 171,783 224

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i_o a_o fellow_n elder_n not_o to_o tyrannize_v over_o the_o flock_n but_o to_o be_v example_n to_o the_o faithful_a the_o place_n of_o peter_n and_o your_o collection_n make_v against_o yourselves_o retortion_n retortion_n to_o say_v minister_n may_v have_v dominion_n over_o the_o people_n but_o minister_n may_v not_o have_v dominion_n over_o minister_n that_o be_v minister_n may_v rule_v and_o not_o be_v rule_v the_o drift_n of_o the_o place_n be_v minister_n may_v not_o tyrannize_v or_o have_v absolute_a command_n over_o the_o people_n or_o over_o one_o another_o i_o refer_v i_o to_o the_o answer_n make_v to_o the_o second_o demonstration_n of_o this_o matter_n the_o 4._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n it_o be_v ordain_v that_o every_o man_n fault_n must_v be_v hear_v remonstrance_n demonstra_fw-la cypr._n lib._n 1._o epi._n 3._o remonstrance_n where_o the_o accuser_n and_o witness_n be_v ergo_fw-la every_o minister_n have_v authority_n over_o his_o flock_n the_o illative_a be_v 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d contentious_a and_o ambitious_a desire_n of_o rule_v and_o that_o civil_o and_o absolute_o the_o 3._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n
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