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A01336
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An ansvver of a true Christian to the proude challenge of a counterset Catholike. By VVilliam Fulke Doctor in diuinitie; Two treatises written against the papistes. Part 1
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Fulke, William, 1538-1589.; Albin de Valsergues, Jean d', d. 1566. Notable discourse.
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STC 11459; ESTC S122230
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