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in_o jail_n that_o will_v choose_v other_o or_o whether_o there_o be_v not_o a_o right_a way_n and_o again_o i_o say_v king_n and_o patron_n choose_v not_o man_n wife_n or_o physician_n or_o food_n and_o every_o man_n have_v a_o charge_n of_o his_o soul_n as_o well_o as_o of_o his_o life_n antecedent_n to_o the_o king_n or_o patron_n charge_n sect._n 6._o but_o why_o say_v he_o p._n 11._o v._n 115._o must_v the_o king_n bear_v all_o the_o blame_n if_o man_n soul_n be_v not_o provide_v for_o &_o c_o answ_n he_o that_o be_v the_o chooser_n must_v bear_v the_o blame_n the_o king_n for_o bishop_n and_o the_o patron_n for_o parish_n priest_n if_o they_o mischoose_v and_o do_v you_o think_v in_o your_o conscience_n that_o all_o the_o patron_n in_o england_n of_o so_o various_a mind_n and_o life_n be_v like_a to_o choose_v only_o such_o in_o who_o pastoral_a conduct_n all_o that_o care_n for_o their_o soul_n shall_v rest_v yea_o though_o the_o bishop_n must_v institute_n they_o as_o they_o ordain_v they_o when_o we_o heretofore_o tell_v they_o of_o the_o multitude_n of_o gross_o ignorant_a drunken_a priest_n their_o answer_n be_v 1._o their_o chaplain_n examine_v they_o 2._o they_o have_v certificate_n 3._o a_o quare_fw-la impedit_fw-la lay_v against_o they_o if_o they_o require_v high_a knowledge_n than_o to_o answer_v the_o catechism_n in_o latin_a and_o now_o experience_n will_v not_o warrant_v we_o to_o know_v what_o such_o man_n be_v p._n 115._o he_o ask_v how_o it_o be_v possible_a on_o these_o term_n to_o have_v any_o peace_n or_o order_n in_o a_o establish_a church_n answ_n i_o have_v full_o tell_v he_o how_o in_o a_o whole_a book_n of_o concord_n and_o have_v their_o way_n cause_v great_a peace_n and_o order_n yes_o to_o themselves_o for_o the_o time_n so_o popery_n keep_v some_o order_n and_o unity_n with_o they_o that_o hold_v to_o it_o but_o it_o keep_v not_o the_o greek_n or_o protestant_n from_o forsake_v they_o sect._n 7._o p._n 119._o 120._o he_o say_v they_o only_o look_v on_o those_o as_o true_a church_n which_o have_v such_o pastor_n who_o they_o approve_v answ_n equivocal_a word_n 1._o if_o they_o approve_v not_o those_o who_o they_o shall_v approve_v it_o be_v their_o sin_n 2._o approve_v be_v either_o of_o the_o necessary_n ad_fw-la esse_fw-la or_o only_o ad_fw-la melius_fw-la esse_fw-la they_o must_v not_o put_v the_o late_a for_o the_o former_a 3._o approve_v be_v by_o a_o govern_n or_o but_o a_o discern_a private_a judgement_n the_o first_o they_o have_v not_o but_o the_o late_a in_o good_a earnest_n will_v he_o have_v all_o the_o people_n take_v those_o for_o true_a pastor_n who_o they_o very_o think_v be_v none_o can_v they_o at_o once_o hold_v contradiction_n and_o if_o they_o must_v not_o judge_v as_o dissenter_n what_o mean_v mr._n dodwel_n and_o such_o man_n argument_n to_o prove_v all_o no_o minister_n that_o have_v not_o succession_n of_o episcopal_a ordination_n must_v not_o the_o people_n on_o that_o account_n disow_v they_o by_o his_o way_n sect._n 8._o p._n 119._o he_o bring_v in_o against_o we_o my_o word_n i_o take_v those_o for_o true_a church_n that_o have_v true_a pastor_n and_o those_o for_o none_o that_o have_v 1._o man_n uncapable_a of_o the_o pastoral_n office_n 2._o or_o not_o true_o call_v to_o it_o 3._o or_o that_o deny_v themselves_o the_o essential_a power_n answ_n he_o know_v that_o i_o speak_v not_o of_o equivocal_a but_o proper_a political_a church_n and_o be_v it_o possible_a that_o such_o a_o man_n shall_v dissent_v in_o this_o 1._o can_v he_o be_v a_o true_a pastor_n that_o be_v uncapable_a of_o the_o office_n shall_v i_o abuse_v time_n to_o confute_v gross_a contradiction_n or_o if_o he_o be_v a_o profess_a infidel_n can_v he_o be_v a_o christian_a pastor_n 2._o be_v a_o layman_n a_o true_a pastor_n that_o be_v not_o true_o call_v to_o it_o why_o then_o do_v they_o argue_v as_o mr._n dodwell_n or_o re-ordain_a man_n 3._o can_v a_o man_n be_v a_o pastor_n against_o his_o will_n or_o that_o content_v not_o but_o renounce_v it_o or_o can_v that_o be_v a_o true_a pastoral_n church_n that_o have_v no_o pastor_n very_o we_o be_v but_o upon_o low_a work_n if_o these_o be_v the_o thing_n which_o we_o must_v prove_v sect._n 9_o he_o add_v and_o one_o or_o other_o of_o these_o he_o think_v must_v if_o not_o all_o the_o parochial_a church_n in_o england_n fall_v under_o answ_n i_o read_v these_o word_n of_o the_o dr._n to_o a_o papist_n to_o speak_v mild_o this_o be_v a_o gross_a untruth_n therefore_o i_o hope_v it_o be_v no_o rage_n for_o i_o to_o have_v say_v the_o like_a how_o do_v he_o prove_v it_o nay_o in_o the_o place_n cite_v by_o he_o i_o not_o only_o profess_v the_o contrary_a but_o give_v the_o reason_n p._n 65._o because_o i_o judge_v of_o their_o office_n by_o god_n word_n and_o not_o by_o the_o rule_n which_o deprive_v they_o of_o a_o essential_a part._n and_o 1._o he_o cit_v my_o confession_n that_o those_o that_o i_o hear_v preach_v well_o and_o therefore_o be_v not_o uncapable_a man_n 2._o that_o their_o ordination_n have_v all_o essential_o necessary_a and_o all_o the_o worthy_a man_n that_o i_o know_v have_v the_o communicant_n of_o the_o parish_n consent_n though_o not_o election_n and_o therefore_o be_v call_v 3._o and_o many_o of_o they_o as_o he_o think_v they_o have_v all_o essential_a to_o the_o office_n and_o disown_n it_o not_o though_o i_o think_v other_o deny_v it_o they_o where_o there_o be_v the_o truth_n of_o what_o he_o say_v sect._n 10._o p._n 120._o because_o my_o practice_n disprove_v he_o he_o find_v out_o a_o subtlety_n that_o i_o join_v not_o with_o the_o parish_n church_n as_o true_a church_n but_o only_o as_o chapel_n or_o oratory_n he_o account_v not_o our_o parochial_a church_n as_o true_a church_n nor_o do_v communicate_v with_o they_o as_o such_o a_o subtlety_n beyond_o the_o reach_n of_o the_o old_a brownist_n answ_n deliberate_o to_o print_v such_o untruth_n seem_v tolerable_a in_o he_o but_o to_o say_v they_o be_v such_o will_v seem_v passion_n in_o i_o and_o what_o other_o answer_n be_v they_o capable_a of_o what_o i_o express_o say_v of_o the_o three_o forementioned_a except_v sort_n he_o feign_v i_o to_o say_v of_o all_o or_o most_o of_o the_o parish_n church_n and_o yet_o dare_v not_o deny_v the_o truth_n of_o any_o one_o of_o the_o exception_n 1._o do_v not_o all_o those_o man_n take_v the_o parish_n for_o no_o proper_a political_a church_n but_o only_o for_o part_n of_o the_o diocesan_n church_n such_o as_o we_o call_v curate_n chapel_n who_o say_v that_o a_o bishop_n be_v a_o constitutive_a part_n of_o a_o true_a political_a church_n and_o enter_v the_o definition_n and_o that_o it_o be_v no_o church_n that_o have_v no_o bishop_n and_o that_o diocesan_a church_n be_v the_o low_a political_a and_o do_v i_o need_v to_o tell_v he_o how_o considerable_a these_o man_n be_v among_o they_o 2._o do_v he_o himself_o take_v any_o one_o of_o these_o for_o a_o true_a political_a church_n when_o i_o be_v young_a divers_a layman_n by_o turn_n be_v our_o public_a read_v teacher_n among_o the_o rest_n one_o be_v after_o prove_v to_o counterfeit_a order_n this_o man_n act_n be_v no_o nullity_n to_o we_o that_o know_v it_o not_o but_o when_o we_o know_v of_o such_o must_v we_o take_v they_o for_o true_a pastor_n and_o it_o for_o a_o true_a church_n sect._n 11._o p._n 221._o he_o say_v any_o parochial_a church_n that_o have_v such_o a_o one_o a_o bishop_n or_o pastor_n over_o they_o that_o have_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n and_o own_v itself_o to_o be_v independent_a he_o allow_v to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o none_o else_o answ_n
i_o contradict_v myself_o by_o say_v the_o same_o thing_n personal_a fault_n i_o distinguish_v from_o ministerial_a and_o tolerable_a ministerial_a from_o intolerable_a then_o and_o now_o and_o be_v this_o contradiction_n do_v not_o all_o do_v so_o too_o till_o now_o yea_o in_o the_o place_n cite_v by_o he_o i_o 1._o say_v that_o as_o to_o personal_a fault_n as_o swear_v drunkenness_n etc._n etc._n they_o shall_v get_v a_o better_a man_n if_o lawful_o they_o can_v 2._o and_o i_o name_v just_a as_o here_o the_o intolerable_a insufficiency_n direct_a pag._n 747._o viz._n 1._o a_o utter_a insufficiency_n in_o knowledge_n and_o utterance_n for_o the_o necessary_a part_n of_o the_o ministerial_a work_n 2._o if_o he_o set_v himself_o to_o oppose_v the_o end_n of_o the_o ministry_n etc._n etc._n by_o heresy_n malignity_n and_o i_o name_v the_o fault_n that_o necessitate_v not_o separation_n sect._n 20._o next_o he_o cit_v my_o word_n against_o some_o man_n factious_a separate_n humour_n and_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o because_o many_o be_v unfit_a to_o judge_v aright_o that_o the_o people_n must_v take_v all_o obtrude_v pastor_n and_o not_o judge_v to_o who_o to_o trust_v the_o conduct_n of_o their_o soul_n how_o unfit_a be_v the_o ignorant_a to_o judge_v who_o be_v a_o meet_a physician_n lawyer_n arbitrator_n yea_o or_o wife_n or_o husband_n for_o they_o and_o yet_o judge_v they_o must_v as_o well_o as_o they_o can_v do_v you_o not_o expect_v notwithstanding_o their_o unfitness_n that_o they_o judge_v your_o book_n and_o argue_v to_o be_v true_a than_o i_o and_o be_v it_o by_o your_o bare_a authority_n that_o they_o must_v so_o judge_v sect._n 21._o but_o he_o much_o blame_v i_o for_o lay_v the_o case_n far_o off_o when_o it_o be_v the_o london_n separation_n which_o he_o question_v where_o the_o minister_n be_v no_o such_o man_n answ_n can_v any_o man_n have_v so_o far_o search_v his_o heart_n as_o to_o know_v that_o he_o speak_v only_o against_o separation_n in_o this_o one_o city_n when_o there_o be_v no_o such_o limitation_n in_o his_o book_n and_o when_o the_o same_o law_n the_o same_o silencing_n fine_n imprisonment_n accusation_n of_o the_o preacher_n be_v all_o over_o the_o land_n but_o i_o be_o glad_a for_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o nonconformist_n elsewhere_o if_o it_o concern_v not_o they_o 2._o as_o to_o london_n he_o know_v that_o i_o give_v the_o preacher_n due_a honour_n and_o that_o i_o justify_v not_o any_o unnecessary_a separation_n of_o the_o people_n from_o they_o nor_o of_o the_o conformist_n from_o the_o nonconformist_n i_o give_v he_o a_o account_n of_o my_o own_o practice_n and_o the_o reason_n of_o it_o let_v other_o man_n give_v account_n of_o they_o i_o know_v very_o many_o of_o my_o mind_n 3._o and_o he_o know_v that_o i_o oft_o tell_v he_o that_o many_o thing_n make_v good_a man_n action_n culpable_a in_o some_o degree_n that_o make_v they_o not_o criminall_n odious_a or_o to_o be_v ruin_v and_o that_o i_o give_v he_o many_o of_o their_o extenuation_n 4._o among_o the_o rest_n very_o to_o use_v his_o own_o phrase_n it_o look_v somewhat_o odd_o by_o the_o church_n law_n or_o canon_n ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la to_o excommunicate_a many_o score_n thousand_o in_o the_o land_n mere_o for_o profess_v to_o take_v some_o thing_n impose_v to_o be_v sin_n and_o then_o to_o revile_v and_o prosecute_v they_o as_o schismatic_n for_o not_o communicate_v with_o you_o 5._o and_o i_o tell_v you_o that_o law_n and_o the_o high_a ground_n be_v not_o always_o the_o terminus_n a_o quo_fw-la of_o schism_n some_o of_o they_o be_v never_o of_o your_o flock_n and_o therefore_o never_o separate_v from_o you_o but_o as_o you_o do_v from_o they_o and_o somewhat_o less_o 6._o and_o the_o king_n licence_n first_o and_o proclaim_v clemency_n often_o give_v they_o some_o possession_n as_o the_o law_n give_v you_o 7._o and_o plague_n fire_n and_o thousand_o that_o can_v hear_v you_o make_v it_o necessary_a but_o some_o parish_n church_n be_v not_o full_a answ_n i_o see_v none_o of_o those_o i_o come_v in_o divers_a where_o many_o can_v hear_v the_o preacher_n and_o will_v you_o have_v more_o and_o again_o i_o tell_v you_o 1._o they_o keep_v meeting_n in_o lesser_a parish_n to_o receive_v those_o that_o come_v out_o of_o great_a 2._o if_o those_o come_v to_o you_o they_o must_v keep_v out_o other_o 3._o when_o it_o be_v common_o know_v that_o in_o their_o own_o great_a parish_n there_o be_v not_o room_n it_o be_v hard_a for_o family_n to_o look_v about_o the_o city_n for_o room_n in_o uncertain_a place_n 4._o and_o all_o person_n that_o culpable_o dislike_v you_o be_v not_o therefore_o to_o be_v forsake_v sect._n 22._o but_o the_o same_o man_n that_o cit_v my_o reprehension_n of_o separation_n ask_v i_o why_o i_o do_v not_o disow_v it_o as_o if_o he_o present_o forget_v what_o he_o have_v write_v i_o disow_v schism_n and_o therefore_o the_o great_a in_o the_o sinful_a church-tearers_a that_o smite_v the_o shepherd_n and_o then_o cry_v out_o of_o the_o flock_n for_o be_v scatter_v and_o i_o disow_v the_o least_o but_o not_o by_o cruelty_n but_o in_o charity_n sect._n 23._o p._n 127._o he_o repeat_v the_o incapacity_n name_v by_o i_o viz._n in_o knowledge_n and_o utterance_n by_o heresy_n etc._n etc._n and_o say_v of_o all_o these_o the_o people_n be_v judge_n and_o so_o many_o separate_v thus_o no_o settle_a church_n can_v subsist_v etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o it_o be_v a_o hard_a case_n that_o in_o such_o a_o volumn_n as_o this_o he_o will_v not_o tell_v we_o his_o own_o judgement_n further_o than_o the_o accuse_v of_o we_o intimate_v it_o which_o if_o we_o tell_v he_o of_o he_o can_v say_v it_o be_v not_o his_o sense_n will_v he_o open_o say_v that_o the_o people_n have_v not_o a_o private_a judgement_n of_o discretion_n in_o order_n to_o their_o own_o practice_n whether_o the_o preacher_n be_v a_o heretic_n papist_n infidel_n idolater_n or_o not_o but_o must_v take_v he_o for_o their_o pastor_n be_v he_o what_o he_o will_v i_o know_v he_o will_v not_o say_v it_o what_o then_o will_v he_o be_v at_o why_o do_v he_o accuse_v we_o for_o that_o which_o he_o dare_v not_o contradict_v do_v he_o any_o where_o tell_v we_o in_o what_o case_n and_o how_o far_o they_o must_v judge_v no_o he_o shun_v all_o such_o question_n as_o tend_v to_o bring_v the_o cause_n into_o the_o light_n put_v twenty_o and_o he_o will_v answer_v few_o or_o none_o of_o they_o if_o he_o do_v perhaps_o we_o shall_v be_v agree_v whether_o he_o will_v or_o not_o but_o reader_n bear_v these_o tire_a repetition_n as_o i_o must_v do_v 1._o he_o know_v that_o it_o be_v the_o ordainer_n and_o not_o the_o people_n who_o i_o make_v judge_n who_o shall_v be_v a_o minister_n 2._o that_o it_o be_v the_o king_n and_o patron_n that_o i_o make_v the_o only_a judge_n who_o shall_v be_v tolerate_v and_o maintain_v by_o they_o and_o have_v the_o tithe_n and_o temple_n 3._o and_o that_o though_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v many_o hundred_o year_n for_o the_o people_n election_n i_o plead_v ad_fw-la esse_fw-la relationis_fw-la for_o no_o more_o as_o necessary_a but_o consent_n who_o shall_v be_v the_o pastor_n to_o who_o they_o will_v trust_v the_o conduct_n of_o their_o soul_n and_o this_o be_v but_o judicium_fw-la discretionis_fw-la &_o privatum_fw-la non_fw-la publicum_fw-la regentis_fw-la only_o guide_v each_o man_n own_o obedience_n to_o god_n 4._o he_o know_v if_o he_o will_v know_v that_o i._o say_v and_o say_v again_o that_o the_o advantage_n of_o the_o law_n and_o ruler_n favour_v and_o the_o tithe_n and_o temple_n and_o parish_n order_n and_o national_a association_n be_v so_o great_a advantage_n to_o the_o service_n of_o god_n that_o no_o man_n shall_v be_v deprive_v of_o they_o and_o go_v another_o way_n but_o upon_o necessity_n and_o very_o great_a and_o urgent_a cause_n but_o i_o intend_v god_n will_v further_o to_o prove_v to_o he_o that_o when_o 9000_o minister_n be_v all_o require_v to_o sin_n or_o cease_v their_o ministry_n a_o necessity_n be_v put_v upon_o they_o to_o exercise_v it_o against_o such_o prohibition_n as_o far_o as_o they_o can_v without_o do_v more_o hurt_v than_o good_a and_o that_o the_o sinful_a compliance_n of_o 7000_o will_v not_o excuse_v the_o other_o 2000_o for_o this_o duty_n and_o this_o be_v the_o case_n which_o a_o friend_n of_o truth_n shall_v have_v debate_v sect._n 24._o p._n 126._o but_o say_v he_o how_o shall_v a_o man_n escape_v be_v think_v heretical_a by_o the_o people_n answ_n 1._o see_v his_o own_o answer_n here_o chap._n 1._o 2._o how_o shall_v one_o get_v all_o the_o world_n to_o be_v wise_a and_o good_a if_o i_o know_v i_o can_v procure_v it_o but_o put_v the_o case_n within_o
which_o settle_v humane_a government_n and_o obedience_n choose_v the_o name_n of_o parent_n rather_o than_o prince_n because_o parent_n government_n be_v antecedent_n to_o prince_n and_o prince_n can_v take_v it_o from_o they_o nor_o disoblige_v their_o child_n but_o self-government_n be_v more_o natural_a than_o parent_n and_o parent_n and_o prince_n must_v help_v it_o but_o not_o destroy_v it_o 7._o when_o person_n want_v natural_a capacity_n for_o self-government_n as_o infant_n and_o idiot_n and_o madman_n they_o be_v to_o be_v govern_v by_o force_n as_o bruit_n be_v not_o capable_a of_o more_o 8._o family_n government_n be_v in_o order_n next_o to_o personal_a prince_n or_o bishop_n have_v no_o right_a to_o overthrow_v it_o at_o least_o except_o in_o part_n on_o slave_n of_o who_o life_n they_o have_v absolute_a power_n if_o the_o king_n impose_v wife_n servants_z and_o diet_n on_o all_o his_o subject_n they_o may_v lawful_o choose_v fit_a for_o themselves_o if_o they_o can_v and_o at_o least_o may_v refuse_v unmeet_a wife_n and_o servant_n and_o mortal_a or_o hurtful_a meat_n and_o drink_n 9_o much_o more_o if_o prince_n and_o patron_n will_v impose_v on_o all_o man_n the_o bishop_n and_o pastor_n to_o who_o charge_n care_n and_o pastoral_n conduct_v they_o must_v commit_v their_o soul_n the_o people_n have_v the_o near_a right_n of_o choice_n and_o strong_a obligation_n must_v refuse_v as_o discern_v self-governing_a judge_n such_o who_o heresy_n negligence_n ignorance_n malignity_n or_o treachery_n be_v like_o either_o apparent_o to_o hazard_v they_o or_o to_o deprive_v they_o of_o that_o pastoral_n help_v which_o they_o find_v needful_a for_o they_o and_o they_o have_v right_a to_o as_o well_o as_o other_o man_n 10._o the_o gain_n or_o loss_n be_v more_o the_o patient_n than_o the_o imposer_n it_o be_v their_o own_o soul_n that_o be_v like_a to_o be_v profit_v and_o save_v by_o needful_a help_n or_o lose_v for_o want_n of_o they_o and_o therefore_o it_o 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able_a experience_a holy_a pastor_n convert_v and_o edify_v much_o more_o than_o ignorant_a and_o vicious_a man_n and_o mean_n must_v according_o be_v choose_v 13._o if_o the_o pastoral_n work_v skilful_o and_o faithful_o do_v be_v needful_a it_o must_v not_o be_v neglect_v whoever_o forbid_v it_o if_o it_o be_v not_o needful_a what_o be_v the_o church_n of_o england_n good_a for_o more_o than_o infidel_n or_o at_o least_o than_o moscovite_n and_o for_o what_o be_v they_o maintain_v by_o tithe_n glebe_n and_o all_o the_o dignity_n honour_n and_o wealth_n they_o have_v and_o for_o what_o do_v man_n so_o much_o contend_v for_o they_o 14._o it_o be_v natural_a to_o generate_v the_o like_a and_o for_o man_n to_o do_v and_o choose_v as_o they_o be_v and_o as_o their_o interest_n lead_v they_o christ_n tell_v we_o how_o hard_o it_o be_v for_o a_o rich_a man_n to_o be_v save_v and_o how_o few_o such_o prove_v good_a and_o the_o clergy_n themselves_o do_v not_o say_v that_o all_o the_o 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