propos._n except_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o their_o parent_n be_v not_o in_o church-order_n for_o the_o synod_n think_v that_o as_o they_o be_v admit_v into_o church-membership_a in_o their_o minority_n so_o they_o still_o continue_v therein_o and_o the_o contrary_n we_o have_v not_o yet_o see_v prove_v as_o for_o the_o shechemite_n etc._n etc._n circumcision_n may_v be_v profane_v when_o administer_v to_o they_o and_o yet_o baptism_n not_o so_o when_o administer_v to_o the_o child_n in_o question_n for_o if_o the_o former_a be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n yet_o these_o be_v and_o whereas_o the_o former_a be_v vile_a and_o vicious_a in_o their_o life_n these_o other_o be_v far_o from_o any_o such_o thing_n and_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o comparison_n between_o the_o former_a and_o these_o speak_v of_o but_o a_o vast_a difference_n and_o we_o may_v add_v further_o that_o as_o there_o be_v difference_n between_o those_o shechemite_n and_o the_o rest_n and_o the_o person_n speak_v of_o both_o in_o respect_n of_o church-relation_n and_o conversation_n so_o in_o respect_n of_o this_o latter_a these_o be_v far_o better_o than_o sundry_a that_o abode_n in_o the_o family_n of_o jacob_n to_o who_o he_o will_v not_o deny_v but_o circumcision_n be_v lawful_o administer_v we_o may_v instance_n in_o simeon_n and_o levi_n who_o commit_v that_o odious_a cruelty_n and_o bloodshedding_a for_o which_o their_o father_n lay_v such_o a_o curse_n upon_o they_o a_o little_a afore_o his_o death_n gen._n 49._o and_o if_o circumcision_n be_v lawful_o administer_v to_o the_o child_n of_o these_o they_o abide_v in_o the_o family_n of_o jacob_n how_o can_v baptism_n lawful_o be_v deny_v to_o the_o child_n in_o question_n or_o be_v say_v to_o be_v profane_v when_o administer_v to_o they_o since_o they_o be_v child_n of_o parent_n who_o be_v once_o in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o be_v never_o cast_v out_o nor_o deserve_v any_o such_o thing_n but_o do_v still_o continue_v therein_o and_o for_o life_n and_o conversation_n be_v far_o from_o any_o such_o scandal_n and_o crime_n as_o be_v find_v in_o the_o son_n of_o jacob_n aforesaid_a one_o end_n of_o baptism_n now_o as_o it_o be_v of_o circumcision_n then_o be_v to_o seal_v church-communion_n 1_o cor._n 12.13_o and_o be_v a_o testimony_n of_o the_o admission_n of_o the_o party_n baptize_v into_o the_o family_n of_o god_n the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a spirit_n etc._n etc._n ans._n this_o be_v no_o just_a ground_n of_o deny_v baptism_n to_o the_o child_n in_o question_n except_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o neither_o they_o nor_o their_o parent_n be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n nor_o of_o his_o family_n which_o yet_o we_o have_v not_o see_v prove_v the_o regular_a and_o lawful_a use_n of_o baptism_n now_o as_o of_o circumcision_n of_o old_a presuppose_v both_o god_n promise_n and_o his_o faith_n viz._n faith_n for_o justification_n with_o abraham_n who_o be_v to_o use_v it_o either_o upon_o himself_o or_o upon_o his_o infant_n to_o use_v it_o be_v not_o so_o qualify_v visible_o be_v it_o not_o a_o treacherous_a usurp_a of_o the_o great_a seal_n of_o the_o king_n of_o heaven_n and_o earth_n ans._n neither_o do_v this_o make_v against_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o child_n in_o question_n forasmuch_o as_o their_o parent_n and_o they_o be_v under_o the_o promise_n of_o god_n i_o will_v be_v a_o god_n to_o thou_o and_o to_o thy_o seed_n in_o their_o generation_n and_o the_o parent_n be_v qualify_v as_o in_o the_o five_o proposition_n can_v be_v deny_v to_o have_v faith_n visible_o as_o be_v show_v by_o the_o synod_n in_o their_o argument_n for_o confirm_v that_o proposition_n and_o in_o this_o defence_n former_o sure_o it_o be_v these_o parent_n may_v as_o well_o be_v think_v to_o have_v faith_n visible_o as_o the_o son_n of_o jacob_n aforementioned_a and_o as_o many_o in_o the_o church_n at_o corinth_n of_o who_o it_o be_v say_v that_o they_o be_v culpable_a for_o carnal_a dissension_n go_v to_o law_n fornication_n vncleanness_n and_o not_o repent_v thereof_o 1_o cor._n 1._o &_o 3_o &_o 6._o and_o 2_o cor._n 12._o and_o yet_o be_v in_o the_o church_n and_o profess_v christianity_n we_o suppose_v the_o reverend_a author_n will_v not_o deny_v but_o their_o child_n may_v be_v baptize_v and_o the_o child_n of_o jacob_n son_n circumcise_v and_o that_o this_o in_o they_o be_v no_o treacherous_a usurp_n of_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o king_n of_o heaven_n and_o earth_n and_o therefore_o much_o less_o can_v such_o a_o thing_n be_v impute_v to_o the_o person_n qualify_v as_o in_o the_o five_o proposition_n though_o the_o seal_n of_o baptism_n be_v administer_v to_o their_o child_n for_o it_o be_v evident_a these_o person_n be_v far_o from_o such_o offensiveness_n as_o be_v in_o those_o corinthian_n and_o in_o reuben_n simeon_n and_o levi_n but_o be_v much_o more_o innocent_a yea_o commendable_a so_o much_o for_o defence_n of_o the_o second_o reason_n of_o the_o synod_n for_o confirm_v this_o six_o proposition_n against_o what_o the_o reverend_a author_n in_o his_o answer_n thereto_o say_v in_o his_o digression_n and_o turn_v back_o to_o the_o proposition_n forego_v the_o three_o reason_n of_o the_o synod_n for_o this_o six_o proposition_n be_v because_o god_n accept_v that_o as_o do_v in_o his_o service_n to_o which_o there_o be_v a_o manifest_a desire_n and_o endeavour_v albeit_o the_o act_n of_o it_o be_v hinder_v as_o in_o david_n to_o build_v the_o temple_n 1_o king_n 8._o in_o abraham_n to_o sacrifice_v his_o son_n heb._n 11.17_o and_o in_o that_o of_o alm_n 2_o cor._n 8.12_o as_o in_o such_o as_o be_v say_v to_o be_v martyr_n in_o voto_fw-la and_o baptise_a in_fw-la voto_fw-la because_o there_o be_v no_o want_n of_o desire_n that_o way_n though_o their_o desire_n be_v not_o actual_o accomplish_v to_o which_o the_o answer_n of_o the_o reverend_a author_n be_v that_o this_o may_v hold_v in_o private_a service_n so_o that_o there_o god_n 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it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o synod_n speak_v not_o of_o such_o but_o of_o such_o as_o be_v church-member_n already_o only_o have_v be_v inevitable_o hinder_v from_o such_o act_n as_o be_v mention_v in_o the_o five_o proposition_n which_o act_n be_v not_o at_o all_o speak_v of_o for_o attain_v church-membership_a for_o that_o state_n the_o synod_n account_n that_o they_o have_v attain_v already_o but_o the_o act_n mention_v be_v clear_o speak_v of_o for_o another_o purpose_n viz._n for_o the_o more_o orderly_o clear_a and_o edify_a manner_n of_o administration_n of_o baptism_n to_o their_o child_n themselves_o though_o be_v in_o the_o state_n and_o order_n of_o church-member_n have_v not_o yet_o be_v receive_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o synod_n speak_v of_o such_o person_n and_o of_o act_n for_o such_o a_o end_n viz._n of_o person_n already_o in_o church-estate_n and_o act_v for_o the_o end_n aforesaid_a and_o here_o in_o this_o six_o proposition_n of_o obtain_v that_o end_n though_o their_o act_n as_o aforesaid_a have_v be_v inevitable_o hinder_v whereas_o the_o reverend_a author_n speak_v of_o such_o as_o be_v not_o in_o church-state_n and_o order_n at_o all_o though_o they_o do_v desire_v it_o and_o of_o they_o he_o say_v that_o these_o desire_n be_v not_o sufficient_a for_o their_o admission_n unto_o church-priviledge_n when_o their_o actual_a enter_v into_o church-state_n be_v hinder_v between_o which_o and_o those_o speak_v of_o by_o the_o synod_n there_o be_v great_a difference_n so_o that_o if_o what_o he_o faith_n be_v grant_v yet_o what_o be_v deliver_v by_o the_o synod_n be_v nothing_o hinder_v thereby_o but_o though_o desire_n of_o office_n or_o of_o church-estate_n be_v not_o sufficient_a for_o do_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o one_o or_o
until_o first_o increase_n of_o faith_n do_v appear_v but_o from_o those_o which_o belong_v to_o the_o begin_n of_o faith_n and_o entrance_n into_o the_o church_n they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v exclude_v where_o the_o doctor_n distinguish_v between_o initium_fw-la fidei_fw-la the_o beginning_n of_o faith_n and_o incrementum_fw-la fidei_fw-la the_o increase_n or_o growth_n of_o faith_n and_o make_v the_o former_a to_o suffice_v unto_o baptism_n but_o the_o latter_a to_o be_v requisite_a to_o full_a communion_n or_o to_o the_o lord_n supper_n a_o initial_a faith_n entitle_v to_o the_o seal_n of_o initiation_n but_o a_o grow_v faith_n i._n e._n a_o faith_n of_o some_o growth_n though_o yet_o far_o short_a of_o perfection_n and_o need_v to_o grow_v still_o a_o faith_n grow_v up_o unto_o some_o sensible_a and_o lively_a exercise_n be_v requisite_a unto_o the_o sacrament_n of_o growth_n and_o fruition_n they_o be_v believer_n yet_o but_o initial_a believer_n that_o john_n baptize_v in_o the_o first_o dawn_v or_o begin_n of_o the_o gospel_n mark_v 1.1_o 4._o the_o apostle_n constant_o baptize_v person_n upon_o the_o first_o beginning_n of_o their_o christianity_n but_o the_o lord_n supper_n follow_v after_o as_o annex_v to_o some_o progress_n in_o christianity_n the_o latter_a distinction_n also_o be_v obvious_a and_o necessary_a who_o ought_v to_o come_v and_o who_o ought_v to_o be_v admit_v be_v two_o distinct_a question_n say_v vrsin_n and_o 426._o parem_n we_o grant_v that_o true_a save_a faith_n and_o repentance_n be_v require_v by_o god_n of_o those_o that_o partake_v of_o sacrament_n for_o themselves_o or_o for_o their_o child_n but_o the_o question_n be_v what_o be_v the_o external_a sign_n and_o token_n of_o that_o grace_n which_o a_o ecclesiastical_a charitable_a reputation_n may_v proceed_v upon_o for_o we_o can_v go_v no_o further_o than_o the_o judgement_n of_o rational_a charity_n as_o here_o our_o brethren_n acknowledge_v and_o that_o proceed_v upon_o outward_a probable_a sign_n leave_v the_o infallible_a knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n to_o god_n only_o the_o distinction_n between_o a_o jew_n outward_o or_o a_o visible_a jew_n that_o have_v praise_n of_o or_o approbation_n among_o man_n and_o inwarâ—lyâ—â—at_a â—â—at_z have_v praise_n of_o god_n be_v a_o scripture-distinction_n rom._n 2.28_o 29._o and_o be_v necessary_a to_o be_v attend_v hâ—re_o for_o de_fw-fr â—ecultis_fw-la non_fw-la judicat_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la 1_o cor._n 4.5_o and_o here_o also_o we_o conceive_v that_o the_o same_o strictness_n as_o to_o outward_a sign_n be_v not_o necessary_a unto_o a_o charitable_a probable_a judgement_n or_o hope_n of_o the_o be_v of_o faith_n or_o of_o that_o initial_a faith_n that_o entitle_v to_o baptism_n as_o be_v unto_o the_o like_a judgement_n of_o the_o special_a exercise_n of_o faith_n that_o be_v requisite_a to_o the_o lord_n supper_n there_o be_v many_o thing_n that_o do_v both_o real_o and_o in_o the_o just_a reputation_n of_o man_n hinder_v the_o exercise_n of_o grace_n and_o so_o hinder_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n which_o yet_o do_v not_o aways_o charitable_a hope_n of_o the_o be_v of_o grace_n or_o the_o state_n of_o a_o believer_n if_o a_o man_n be_v under_o offence_n in_o the_o church_n he_o be_v suspend_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n till_o a_o renew_n or_o exercise_n of_o repentance_n do_v appear_v yet_o we_o still_o repute_v he_o to_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o a_o believer_n or_o to_o have_v the_o be_v of_o grace_n now_o then_o to_o apply_v this_o to_o the_o synod_n proceed_n for_o answer_n to_o what_o be_v here_o sâ—id_v viz._n that_o the_o synod_n do_v acknowledge_v there_o aught_o to_o be_v true_a save_a faith_n in_o the_o parent_n to_o the_o judgement_n oâ—_n rational_a charity_n or_o else_o the_o child_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v baptise_a yet_o can_v not_o be_v prevail_v with_o to_o set_v this_o down_o â—â—r_a a_o conclusion_n 1._o we_o do_v and_o do_v acknowledge_v that_o in_o ecclesiastical_a charitable_a reputation_n there_o must_v be_v faith_n yea_o true_a save_a faith_n those_o word_n hurt_v we_o not_o provide_v they_o be_v not_o so_o strain_v as_o to_o turn_v charity_n into_o rigid_a severity_n i._n e._n the_o be_v of_o faith_n whereby_o a_o person_n be_v account_v to_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o a_o believer_n baptism_n be_v as_o be_v in_o the_o synod_n allege_v annex_v proper_o to_o the_o state_n of_o a_o believer_n or_o to_o the_o covenant-state_n of_o a_o person_n and_o not_o to_o the_o present_a act_n or_o exercise_v of_o faith_n and_o hence_o though_o there_o be_v no_o parent_n alive_a to_o act_v for_o the_o child_n and_o the_o child_n can_v at_o present_v act_n for_o itself_o yet_o that_o hinder_v not_o its_o baptism_n but_o we_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v it_o be_v necessary_a there_o shall_v be_v faith_n in_o the_o lively_a and_o special_a exercise_n of_o it_o such_o as_o we_o just_o require_v a_o appearance_n of_o unto_o rational_a charity_n in_o order_n unto_o full_a communion_n which_o be_v that_o our_o brethren_n aim_v at_o and_o stand_v for_o in_o all_o who_o child_n they_o will_v have_v baptise_a and_o to_o set_v down_o a_o conclusion_n in_o general_a term_n when_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o case_n call_v for_o distinctâ—ess_n be_v not_o rational_a 2_o our_o main_a work_n be_v to_o consider_v of_o and_o pitch_n upon_o such_o external_a sign_n and_o character_n as_o the_o church_n charity_n may_v and_o shall_v proceed_v upon_o in_o this_o case_n we_o all_o own_o that_o only_o visible_a believer_n or_o visible_a saint_n be_v to_o have_v their_o child_n baptise_a but_o the_o question_n be_v who_o be_v to_o be_v account_v visible_a believer_n and_o we_o say_v that_o those_o describe_v in_o the_o fâ—â—â—h_a proposition_n be_v of_o that_o number_n to_o have_v put_v it_o in_o such_o a_o general_a term_n as_o those_o that_o profess_v or_o hold_v forth_o faith_n and_o repentance_n unto_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o rational_a charity_n have_v be_v to_o leave_v the_o matter_n as_o obscure_v as_o we_o find_v it_o and_o in_o stead_n of_o give_v light_n to_o the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o end_n of_o synod_n to_o leave_v theâ—_n in_o the_o dark_a without_o any_o help_n to_o discover_v their_o way_n for_o still_o they_o be_v to_o seek_v who_o those_o be_v that_o be_v to_o be_v account_v professor_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n and_o what_o profession_n that_o be_v that_o charity_n may_v accept_v in_o order_n to_o their_o child_n baptism_n beside_o it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o those_o expression_n of_o hold_v forth_o faith_n and_o repentance_n etc._n etc._n have_v be_v constant_o so_o take_v in_o this_o country_n as_o to_o hold_v forth_o the_o qualification_n require_v for_o full_a communion_n and_o that_o be_v it_o which_o our_o brethren_n strive_v for_o so_o to_o screw_v up_o the_o expreâ—sions_n for_o baptism_n as_o that_o all_o that_o have_v their_o child_n baptise_a must_v unavoidable_o be_v bring_v to_o the_o lord_n table_n and_o to_o a_o power_n of_o vote_v in_o our_o church_n wherein_o we_o can_v consent_v to_o they_o and_o however_o we_o be_v charge_v with_o corrupt_v the_o church_n yet_o we_o believe_v time_n will_v show_v that_o that_o principle_n that_o over_o enlarge_v full_a communion_n or_o that_o will_v have_v all_o of_o who_o we_o can_v have_v any_o hope_n that_o they_o have_v any_o good_a in_o theâ—_n to_o come_v to_o the_o lord_n table_n this_o we_o say_v will_v prove_v a_o church-corrupting_a principle_n and_o those_o that_o have_v labour_v to_o keep_v up_o the_o pâ—rtition_n here_o will_v be_v find_v to_o have_v be_v serious_o studious_a of_o the_o parity_n and_o safety_n of_o the_o church_n 3._o but_o when_o it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o synod_n can_v not_o be_v bring_v to_o express_v what_o themselves_o acknowledge_v 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o parent_n who_o child_n iâ—_n baptize_v must_v have_v faith_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o charity_n or_o which_o be_v all_o one_o must_v be_v a_o visible_a believer_n we_o desire_v it_o may_v be_v consider_v with_o what_o truth_n this_o can_v be_v 〈◊〉_d for_o it_o be_v offer_v â—gain_o and_o again_o to_o express_v it_o 〈◊〉_d plain_o and_o particular_o if_o that_o will_v have_v satisfy_v as_o thâ—se_a that_o be_v present_a in_o those_o agitation_n too_o long_o here_o to_o be_v insert_v may_v remember_v and_o the_o proposition_n make_v â—as_v refuse_v by_o some_o of_o themselves_o that_o dissent_v but_o it_o be_v competent_o express_v in_o the_o synod_n result_v as_o now_o print_v for_o when_o we_o limit_v the_o baptizable_a to_o confederate_a visible_a believer_n and_o their_o infant-seed_n in_o propos._n 1_o &_o 2._o and_o then_o say_v that_o those_o describe_v in_o propos._n 5_o 6_o &_o 7._o be_v to_o have_v their_o child_n baptise_a do_v it_o not_o imply_v that_o the_o parent_n there_o describe_v be_v confederate_a visible_a
baptism_n unto_o his_o child_n whereunto_o be_v add_v somewhat_o out_o of_o bucer_n parker_n and_o mr._n cotton_n as_o concur_v with_o the_o judgement_n of_o our_o brethren_n ans._n take_v capable_a of_o receive_v baptism_n himself_o or_o right_o to_o baptism_n himself_o for_o a_o state_n of_o baptism-right_a or_o capacity_n we_o may_v grant_v the_o major_n but_o the_o minor_a in_o manifest_o to_o be_v deny_v but_o take_v it_o for_o a_o frame_n of_o actual_a fitness_n to_o receive_v baptism_n we_o can_v say_v that_o we_o may_v grant_v the_o minor_a but_o sure_o the_o major_n will_v not_o hold_v it_o be_v true_a that_o that_o which_o do_v not_o put_v a_o man_n into_o a_o state_n of_o right_a to_o baptism_n for_o himself_o in_o case_n he_o be_v unbaptise_v i._n e._n into_o a_o state_n of_o church-membership_a will_v not_o enable_v he_o to_o give_v baptism-right_a to_o his_o child_n if_o the_o parent_n be_v not_o a_o member_n or_o not_o in_o a_o state_n of_o covenant_n interest_n none_o of_o we_o plead_v for_o the_o child_n baptism_n and_o if_o he_o be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d sure_o he_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o a_o subject_a of_o baptism_n or_o in_o a_o state_n of_o right_a to_o it_o as_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v whatever_o may_v the_o facto_fw-la hinder_v it_o but_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o a_o adult_n person_n be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o a_o member_n and_o so_o of_o right_a to_o baptism_n to_o have_v something_o fall_v in_o which_o may_v hinder_v the_o actual_a application_n of_o baptism_n to_o himself_o in_o case_n he_o be_v unbaptise_v or_o his_o actual_a fitness_n for_o it_o and_o yet_o the_o same_o thing_n may_v not_o hinder_v a_o person_n already_o baptize_v and_o stand_v in_o a_o covenant-state_n from_o convey_v baptism-right_a to_o his_o child_n the_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o right_n of_o the_o child_n depend_v upon_o the_o state_n of_o the_o parent_n that_o he_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o membership_n for_o if_o so_o then_o 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call_v to_o give_v satisfaction_n for_o it_o and_o to_o show_v himself_o in_o a_o more_o serious_a and_o penitent_a frame_n before_o himself_o receive_v baptism_n but_o suppose_v he_o die_v before_o he_o do_v that_o and_o leave_v child_n behind_o he_o shall_v not_o they_o be_v baptize_v in_o like_a manner_n if_o a_o person_n already_o baptize_v yea_o or_o already_o in_o full_a communion_n shall_v fall_v into_o offence_n you_o will_v say_v that_o will_v put_v a_o stop_n to_o his_o own_o baptism_n in_o case_n upon_o a_o impossible_a supposition_n he_o be_v yet_o unbaptise_v but_o what_o rule_n or_o reason_n be_v there_o for_o it_o to_o make_v a_o particular_a offence_n in_o the_o parent_n to_o cut_v oâ—_n the_o child_n right_a to_o baptism_n when_o as_o the_o parent_n be_v notwithstanding_o that_o offence_n still_o a_o member_n and_o within_o the_o church_n and_o do_v not_o show_v any_o such_o incorrigibleness_n as_o that_o 〈◊〉_d be_v by_o rule_n to_o be_v put_v out_o when_o as_o the_o offence_n do_v not_o cut_v off_o the_o parent_n membership_n be_v there_o any_o reason_n it_o shall_v cut_v off_o the_o membership_n of_o the_o child_n and_o if_o it_o cut_v not_o of_o the_o child_n membership_n it_o do_v not_o cut_v off_o his_o right_n to_o baptism_n whatever_o may_v be_v say_v for_o require_v the_o parent_n to_o confess_v his_o sin_n before_o his_o child_n baptism_n in_o reference_n to_o the_o more_o expedient_a and_o comfortable_a manner_n of_o administration_n therein_o we_o oppose_v not_o yet_o where_o do_v the_o scripture_n allow_v we_o to_o disannul_v the_o child_n right_a to_o baptism_n upon_o a_o particular_a offence_n in_o the_o parent_n especial_o when_o it_o be_v not_o such_o as_o do_v touch_v upon_o the_o essential_o of_o christianity_n and_o notwithstanding_o which_o the_o parent_n be_v regular_o and_o orderly_o continue_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n it_o remain_v therefore_o that_o there_o may_v be_v obstruction_n to_o a_o parent_n receive_v baptism_n for_o himself_o in_o case_n he_o be_v unbaptise_v which_o do_v not_o incapacitate_v a_o baptize_v parent_n to_o transmit_v if_o we_o may_v attribute_v transmit_v to_o a_o parent_n which_o be_v proper_o the_o act_n of_o god_n institution_n and_o covenant_n right_a of_o baptism_n unto_o his_o child_n but_o for_o the_o minor_a or_o assumption_n of_o the_o argument_n in_o hand_n it_o will_v not_o hold_v in_o either_o of_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o proposition_n above_o give_v for_o 1._o we_o will_v ready_o grant_v that_o if_o the_o parent_n be_v not_o in_o a_o state_n of_o baptism-right_a himself_o i._n e._n in_o a_o state_n of_o membership_n he_o can_v convey_v baptism-right_a to_o his_o child_n but_o how_o manifest_a be_v it_o that_o that_o which_o the_o synod_n have_v say_v in_o their_o five_o proposition_n do_v render_v the_o person_n there_o describe_v in_o a_o state_n of_o right_a to_o baptism_n for_o themselves_o in_o case_n they_o be_v unbaptise_v viz._n in_o a_o state_n of_o membership_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o the_o proposition_n speak_v of_o church-member_n such_o as_o be_v admit_v member_n in_o minority_n and_o do_v orderly_a and_o regular_o so_o continue_v and_o that_o a_o state_n of_o membership_n be_v a_o state_n of_o baptism-right_a or_o that_o all_o church-member_n be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o subject_n of_o baptism_n be_v a_o evident_a truth_n that_o can_v be_v deny_v by_o any_o that_o grant_v the_o synod_n first_o proposition_n for_o which_o there_o be_v sun-light_n in_o scripture_n and_o never_o be_v orthodox_n divine_a hear_v of_o that_o question_v it_o hence_o according_a to_o that_o rule_v case_n here_o mention_v the_o parent_n in_o question_n have_v themselves_o a_o title_n to_o baptism_n may_v entitle_v other_o they_o have_v not_o only_o a_o title_n to_o it_o but_o regular_a and_o actual_a possession_n of_o it_o for_o they_o be_v baptize_v and_o in_o case_n they_o be_v yet_o unbaptise_v they_o will_v be_v church-member_n have_v a_o title_n of_o right_n unto_o it_o they_o will_v stand_v possess_v of_o a_o interest_n in_o a_o title_n to_o it_o as_o mr._n hooker_n in_o the_o place_n here_o allege_v speaks_z whatever_o may_v de_fw-mi facto_fw-la hinder_v their_o enjoyment_n of_o it_o and_o as_o à _fw-la non_fw-la habente_fw-la potestatem_fw-la act_n be_v invalid_a so_o ab_fw-la habente_fw-la potestatem_fw-la they_o be_v valid_a and_o good_a but_o god_n have_v full_a power_n to_o give_v forth_o what_o grant_v he_o please_v and_o he_o have_v in_o the_o order_n of_o his_o covenant_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n grant_v a_o membership_n and_o so_o baptism-right_a unto_o child_n bear_v of_o parent_n that_o be_v member_n and_o so_o the_o parent_n that_o stand_v member_n of_o the_o church_n have_v as_o a_o instrument_n under_o god_n and_o from_o his_o grant_n power_n to_o 〈◊〉_d such_o a_o right_a unto_o his_o child_n child_n be_v within_o the_o covenant_n because_o they_o come_v from_o parent_n within_o the_o covenant_n in_o which_o they_o be_v include_v and_o so_o receive_v also_o by_o god_n say_v mr._n hooker_n in_o the_o place_n that_o be_v here_o cite_v survey_v part_n 3._o pag._n 18._o 2._o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v yield_v that_o the_o parent_n describe_v by_o the_o synod_n in_o their_o five_o proposition_n will_v not_o have_v right_a to_o baptism_n themseluâ—s_o in_o case_n they_o be_v unbaptise_v though_o you_o take_v right_a to_o baptism_n for_o actual_a and_o immediate_a fitness_n for_o the_o same_o in_o fero_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la sure_o he_o will_v have_v a_o hard_a talk_n who_o shall_v undertake_v out_o of_o scripture_n or_o orthodox_n divine_v to_o show_v that_o adult_a person_n understanding_n and_o believe_v the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o public_o profess_v the_o same_o not_o scandalous_a in_o life_n and_o solemn_o take_v hâ—ld_n of_o the_o covenant_n wherein_o they_o
than_o the_o servant_n since_o in_o the_o cafe_z allege_v the_o servant_n may_v trade_v under_o the_o freeman_n as_o well_o as_o the_o child_n may_v we_o suppose_v none_o will_v say_v this_o and_o therefore_o in_o this_o the_o comparison_n do_v not_o suit_v the_o case_n in_o hand_n the_o order_n and_o privilege_n of_o corporation_n be_v various_a according_a to_o the_o tenor_n of_o their_o several_a charter_n but_o what_o the_o charter_n of_o the_o church_n be_v we_o know_v viz._n that_o in_o gen._n 17._o it_o take_v in_o child_n into_o the_o church_n with_o their_o parent_n and_o do_v not_o allow_v they_o to_o be_v put_v out_o till_o censurable_a iniquity_n do_v appear_v 2._o if_o in_o some_o corporation_n one_o that_o be_v freeborn_a do_v lose_v his_o privilege_n when_o he_o become_v adult_n if_o he_o do_v not_o then_o enter_v personal_o into_o the_o engagement_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o certain_a that_o it_o be_v so_o in_o all_o sure_o no_o such_o thing_n be_v say_v of_o paul_n who_o yet_o plead_v his_o privilege_n of_o be_v a_o freeman_n of_o rome_n because_o he_o be_v so_o bear_v without_o mention_n of_o any_o personal_a act_n of_o his_o own_o for_o attain_v that_o privilege_n act_v 22._o and_o if_o paul_n be_v freeborn_a do_v retain_v his_o freedom_n when_o adult_n without_o any_o personal_a act_n of_o his_o own_o for_o that_o end_n why_o may_v it_o not_o be_v so_o in_o respect_n of_o church-membership_a though_o in_o all_o civil_a corporation_n it_o be_v not_o so_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o scripture_n speak_v of_o the_o child_n of_o bond-servant_n as_o bind_v also_o and_o of_o the_o child_n of_o the_o fâ—er_n as_o free_v also_o without_o mention_n of_o any_o act_n of_o the_o child_n to_o procure_v that_o relation_n or_o state_n in_o the_o one_o case_n or_o in_o the_o other_o â—euâ—_n 25.46_o 54._o and_o we_o see_v no_o reason_n but_o it_o may_v be_v so_o also_o in_o the_o visible_a church_n that_o if_o the_o parent_n be_v a_o member_n the_o child_n be_v so_o also_o and_o so_o continue_v 〈◊〉_d i._n e_o be_v cut_v off_o not_o lose_v his_o membership_n by_o the_o mere_a not_o perform_v of_o what_o may_v fit_v he_o for_o full_a communion_n 3._o if_o it_o be_v so_o in_o all_o corporation_n that_o a_o freeman_n child_n do_v lose_v his_o freedom_n when_o adult_n if_o he_o do_v not_o then_o in_o his_o own_o person_n enter_v into_o the_o common_a engagement_n and_o if_o it_o be_v also_o so_o in_o the_o church_n that_o a_o member_n child_n shall_v lose_v his_o membership_n when_o adult_n if_o he_o do_v not_o then_o personal_o covenant_n though_o this_o be_v more_o than_o we_o see_v prove_v yet_o if_o it_o be_v so_o we_o see_v not_o how_o this_o can_v be_v prejudicial_a to_o the_o person_n speak_v of_o in_o this_o five_o proposition_n for_o of_o they_o it_o be_v express_o say_v that_o they_o do_v solemn_o own_v the_o covenant_n before_o the_o church_n and_o therein_o give_v up_o themselves_o and_o their_o child_n to_o the_o lord_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o though_o freedom_n in_o a_o corporation_n and_o membership_n in_o the_o church_n may_v be_v lose_v by_o not_o enter_v personal_o into_o the_o common_a engagement_n and_o covenant_n yet_o except_o we_o shall_v say_v it_o may_v be_v lose_v though_o this_o personal_a engagement_n and_o enter_v be_v perform_v and_o do_v except_o we_o shall_v say_v this_o we_o can_v say_v that_o the_o membership_n of_o the_o person_n in_o question_n be_v lose_v at_o all_o but_o do_v still_o continue_v since_o they_o be_v such_o as_o do_v thus_o personal_o engage_v and_o covenant_n as_o for_o that_o text_n rom._n 2.25_o if_o thou_o be_v a_o breaker_n of_o the_o law_n thy_o circumcision_n be_v make_v no_o circumcision_n which_o be_v here_o allege_a again_o we_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o what_o have_v be_v say_v touch_v this_o text_n before_o in_o pag._n 33._o last_o whereas_o the_o reverend_a author_n say_v those_o text_n in_o rom._n 11.16_o 1_o cor._n 7.14_o gen._n 17.7_o be_v not_o applicable_a to_o the_o adult_a person_n in_o question_n but_o only_o to_o infant_n and_o child_n in_o minority_n the_o answer_n be_v that_o the_o synod_n do_v not_o at_o all_o apply_v they_o to_o the_o adult_a person_n in_o question_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v a_o great_a mistake_n so_o to_o think_v but_o have_v say_v that_o these_o person_n be_v personal_a immediate_a and_o yet-continuing_a member_n they_o do_v thence_o infer_v that_o their_o child_n be_v therefore_o also_o member_n in_o covenant_n and_o holy_a and_o consequent_o be_v the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n which_o inference_n and_o consequence_n the_o reverend_a author_n we_o be_v persuade_v will_v not_o deny_v if_o the_o ground_n thereof_o be_v good_a that_o the_o parent_n in_o question_n be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o the_o synod_n apprehend_v that_o they_o be_v and_o therefore_o although_o the_o text_n allege_v be_v not_o applicable_a to_o the_o adult_a person_n in_o question_n yet_o if_o they_o be_v applicable_a to_o such_o infant_n and_o little_a child_n who_o parent_n be_v personal_a immediate_a and_o yet-continuing_a member_n they_o do_v then_o sufficient_o serve_v the_o purpose_n for_o which_o they_o be_v here_o allege_v by_o the_o synod_n so_o much_o for_o defence_n of_o the_o six_o and_o last_o argument_n for_o confirm_v this_o five_o proposition_n propos._n 6._o the_o six_o proposition_n of_o the_o synod_n be_v this_o such_o church-member_n who_o either_o by_o death_n or_o some_o extraordinary_a providence_n have_v be_v inevitable_o hinder_v from_o public_a act_n as_o aforesaid_a yet_o have_v give_v the_o church_n cause_n in_o judgement_n of_o charity_n to_o look_v at_o they_o as_o so_o qualify_v and_o such_o as_o have_v they_o be_v call_v thereunto_o will_v have_v so_o act_v their_o child_n be_v to_o be_v baptise_a to_o this_o the_o reverend_a author_n answer_v that_o this_o proposition_n may_v not_o be_v grant_v for_o it_o grant_v the_o privilege_n of_o 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