Selected quad for the lemma: order_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
order_n	account_n	act_n	act_v	75	3	7.9373	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A50248	A defence of the answer and arguments of the synod met at Boston in the year 1662 concerning the subject of Baptism and consociation of churches against the reply made thereto, by the Reverend Mr. John Davenport, pastor of the church at New-Haven, in his treatise entituled Another essay for investigation of the truth &c. : together with an answer to the apologetical preface set before that essay, by some of the elders who were members of the Synod above-mentioned.	Mather, Richard, 1596-1669.	1664 (1664)	Wing M1271; ESTC W19818	155,430	150

propos._n except_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o their_o parent_n be_v not_o in_o church-order_n for_o the_o synod_n think_v that_o as_o they_o be_v admit_v into_o church-membership_a in_o their_o minority_n so_o they_o still_o continue_v therein_o and_o the_o contrary_n we_o have_v not_o yet_o see_v prove_v as_o for_o the_o shechemite_n etc._n etc._n circumcision_n may_v be_v profane_v when_o administer_v to_o they_o and_o yet_o baptism_n not_o so_o when_o administer_v to_o the_o child_n in_o question_n for_o if_o the_o former_a be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n yet_o these_o be_v and_o whereas_o the_o former_a be_v vile_a and_o vicious_a in_o their_o life_n these_o other_o be_v far_o from_o any_o such_o thing_n and_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o comparison_n between_o the_o former_a and_o these_o speak_v of_o but_o a_o vast_a difference_n and_o we_o may_v add_v further_o that_o as_o there_o be_v difference_n between_o those_o shechemite_n and_o the_o rest_n and_o the_o person_n speak_v of_o both_o in_o respect_n of_o church-relation_n and_o conversation_n so_o in_o respect_n of_o this_o latter_a these_o be_v far_o better_o than_o sundry_a that_o abode_n in_o the_o family_n of_o jacob_n to_o who_o he_o will_v not_o deny_v but_o circumcision_n be_v lawful_o administer_v we_o may_v instance_n in_o simeon_n and_o levi_n who_o commit_v that_o odious_a cruelty_n and_o bloodshedding_a for_o which_o their_o father_n lay_v such_o a_o curse_n upon_o they_o a_o little_a afore_o his_o death_n gen._n 49._o and_o if_o circumcision_n be_v lawful_o administer_v to_o the_o child_n of_o these_o they_o abide_v in_o the_o family_n of_o jacob_n how_o can_v baptism_n lawful_o be_v deny_v to_o the_o child_n in_o question_n or_o be_v say_v to_o be_v profane_v when_o administer_v to_o they_o since_o they_o be_v child_n of_o parent_n who_o be_v once_o in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o be_v never_o cast_v out_o nor_o deserve_v any_o such_o thing_n but_o do_v still_o continue_v 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the_o synod_n describe_v or_o to_o more_o than_o so_o vid._n bucer_n de_fw-fr regno_fw-la christi_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 2._o pag._n 14._o and_o in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o john_n in_o a_o excellent_a discourse_n concern_v infant_n baptism_n among_o many_o other_o useful_a passage_n he_o have_v these_o follow_v sunt_fw-la quidem_fw-la sa●e_v inter_fw-la pueros_fw-la reprobi_fw-la etc._n etc._n there_o be_v indeed_o often_o among_o child_n some_o that_o be_v reprobate_n but_o while_o that_o do_v not_o appear_v to_o we_o we_o ought_v nevertheless_o to_o reckon_v they_o among_o the_o people_n of_o god_n and_o we_o shall_v time_n enough_o cast_v they_o out_o when_o by_o their_o evil_a fruit_n they_o shall_v open_o show_v we_o what_o they_o be_v bucer_n in_o joh._n fol._n 43._o and_o in_o another_o place_n quantum_fw-la equidem_fw-la assequi_fw-la possum_fw-la etc._n etc._n as_o far_o as_o i_o can_v gather_v say_v he_o the_o