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A08448 A tragoedie or dialoge of the vniuste vsurped primacie of the Bishop of Rome, and of all the iust abolishyng of the same, made by master Barnardine Ochine an Italian, [and] translated out of Latine into Englishe by Master Iohn Ponet Doctor of Diuinitie, neuer printed before in any language Ochino, Bernardino, 1487-1564.; Ponet, John, 1516?-1556. 1549 (1549) STC 18770; ESTC S113413 128,091 218

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thynges that fade and decaye But tell on the ende of the disputacion Lepi. When master Falsidicus had spente all hys matter and sayed what he coulde Thimbassador began to declare howe the holy scripture was directlye agaynst thys primacie And first he made it playne very well that Christe was the chiefe prieste not after the order of Aaron but after the order of Melchisedeche And that he was not of the tribe of Leui or of the stocke of Aaron but of the tribe of Iuda and of the stocke of Dauid And more ouer that he was not chosen as other menne be as other chiefe priestes be chosen of other priestes who doeth not alwaye chose the beste but that he was chosen of his eternall and heauenly father when he sayed Thow art my sonne this daye haue I begotten the. And the other chiefe preestes were anoynted with a materiall oyle but Christe was anoynted with the holy gooste And they had on suche garmentes as Moses apoynted them by gods commaundement but thapparell of Christe was the whole company of al vertues They offered incense and brute beastes but Christe offered himselfe vpon the crosse with a spirituall and heauenly excellent swete sauor They entred the holy of holyes but Christe entred into heauen and sitteth now at the right hande of the eternal father making intercession for vs obteyning what soeuer he desiereth Whereas before tyme he did put vpon him our infirmities that by the meanes thereof he might bee earnestly sorowful for our miseries So that Christ was chiefe preeste after the ordre of Melchisedeche whiche was muche more excellent thenwas the order of Aaron Neither was he only the sonne of god vnto whome the spirite is geuen without measure and all power and dominion in heauen and in earth in whome all treasures of wisedome and knowledge of god be hid who is full of grace and truethe but in him allo dwelleth a full plen●ifullnes of all heuenly thynges And that Christe hathe now taken away Aarons presthod as a thing vnperfect and was but a shadow of this which is more perfecte So that they nowe maye bee accounted trewe preestes which be regenerated by Christe and haue the spirite of god ▪ And them to be the greatter and better prestes who hathe receaued a greater measure and habundance of that heauenly spirite And al y e other to bee prophane wicked notwithstādinge that they bee a thousande tymes anoynted ordered and chosen in to the numbre of preestes by the Pope and hys membres Wherefore he sayeth eyther ye haue the spyrite or not yf ye haue not the spirite of God then bee ye no priestes neyther after the order of Melchisedech neither after the order of Aaron because ye be not of hys family Therfore canne ye not be prestes but after the order of Beliall after whose order ye may wel be the chief priestes of all But if ye haue y e spirit of god thē be ye right precious in dede hī shal ye thinke to be y e highest priest of all who is replenyshed with more habundaunce of the spirite of god And because that Christe onely receaued the spirite without measure he onely muste be taken for the trewe onelye and chiefe highe prest And for asmuch as Christ onely is full of light grace truethe power and all heauenlye vertue it were an extreme wickednes ydolatrye and abhominacion to study to robbe Christe of these heauenly giftes and apoynt them to a mortall manne and so muche the more and greater shoulde thabhominacion bee the more we bee assuered that Christe is the chiefe euerlastinge preeste as Dauid prophecied and as it is wrytten to the Hebrewes Wherefore as the chiefe prestes of the Iewes died and another was apointed in hys place by the meanes whereof they were manye So this Christe oure eternall preeste beinge once raysed from deathe dieth no more but is ascended into heauen where nowe he lyueth and reigneth chiefe preeste for euer and is able perfectly to saue all those that comme forthe into the syght of God trustinge vpon hys mediacion It is the office of the chiefe preeste to put hym selfe betwene God and the people to offer for the synnes of menne to praye for thē and to purchase the fauor of God vnto them But nowe sence Christ hath offered hym selfe vpon the crosse for our synnes and hath pacified the wrath of God the father for euer hah preserued his chosē once for all y t we shal not more haue any nede of hygh priestes whiche shoulde offer agayne for our offences yf that after all thys we attempt to doe sacryfice agayne for thys ende it can not bee done with out an exceding great iniury of God and open contempt of the sacrifice of Christe We haue no nede at thys present to haue any other mē to put themselues betwene vs and god as chiefe priestes because that wee obteyne all fauour by Christ onely and alone as by our onely chiefe priest chief head and mediator by whose meanes and for whose sake oure prayer workes and sacrifices be not onely accepted but our selues also Wherfore Christ onely and alone is sufficient for vs neither haue we nede of anye other chiefe priestes because it is a dignitie that no manne liuinge can vse with out y e great offence of God Who knoweth not that Christ onely is called of the holy gost the head of hys churche not onely of the churche militaunt but also of the churche triumphaunt Wherein he shall reygne for euer vntyll the latter daye of iudgement Euen as it is necessarye that he shoulde reygne vntill he hathe put hys enemyes a fote stole to hys feete Christ wyll haue thys highe dignitie of the supreme head in hys churche reserued full and whole to hymselfe As he is the true foundacion of hys churche vnto whom only this dignity worthely agreeth because he is onely one whiche as one supreme head hath the fulnes of the treasures and of the knowledge and wisdome of God and of his fauoure and all vertue Thys is he alone who hauynge the spirite with out measure ruleth and gouerneth his churche as an vniuersall head geuing to other menne as to his infer●or membres sundrye gyftes and benefites after a certayne proporcion and measure Wherfore euen as in the spirituall churche of Christe they onely bee trewe priestes who haue the gyft of the holy ghost powred vpon them and they be the greater priestes whiche haue thesame in a more plētifull measure And Christ is the onely chiefe prieste who hathe the spirite without measure Of a lyke sort they onely be trewe and lyuelye membres of the bodye of the same churche whiche haue the spirite of god and they be more noble and more worthy who haue thesame spirite more aboundauntly And Christe onely is their head who chiefely and moste aboundantly hathe the spirite ofy e eternall father Wherfore in that the byshop of
Clement was ordeyned vniuersall Byshoppe of all churches but onelye the byshoppe of the church of Rome Besides this if Clement was made Byshoppe of Rome by Peter as you saye he was and not chosen of the people no doubt hys successors woulde haue folowed the same example whiche thyng they dyd not and therefore it is false that Peter made hym Byshoppe I will passe ouer that neither Eusebius neither Hierome number these Epistles amongest Clementes workes Yea Clement hym selfe in these Epistles prayseth a boke that he shoulde write the title wherof is Itinerarium Clementis whiche boke of trueth was neuer of hys makynge And furthermore thys boke maketh mencion of dioceses archbyshoprikes primacies and bishoprikes whiche orders and names were not yet distincted and appoynted out neyther doeth he anye thyng els in these Epistles but set forth the dignitie and fredome of priestes whome he wyll haue so free that they shall not intermedle themselues with anye handycraft for a profe of the which absurditie he citeth certayne places of holye scriptures wrythed beyond the nocke More ouer in his second Epistle he is so bolde to teach Iames of what sorte he shoulde minister the Sacramentes And yet that fashiō is not obserued thys daye namely in the administracion of the lordes supper Furthermore none of the auncient writers make any mencion of these Epistles neither yet of them y t Anacletus or Euaristus should wryte He citeth out of the newe and olde testament that it is not laweful for priestes to sacrifice or syng masse but when the Byshoppe commaundeth them which thynge can neither be founde in the newe neither in the olde testament In the fyft Epistle he affirmeth that all thynges wyfes and other shoulde be common and that yf it be not so it commeth of the wyckednes of menne There bee also in thesame Epistles many other folishe thynges and lyes whiche he rehersed but bycause ye maye read them your selfe I wyll reherse no more Master Pseudologus shewed also certeyne other epistles wrytten as he sayed by Anacletus and Euaristus whereby he minded to stablysh this popeshippe But thimbassadour proued by good reasons that they all were of none authoritie because that it is conteined in them that Clement should be his predecessor which thing Hierome denieth also Ireneus Further he would not y t priestes should be accused or iudged for a profe wherof allegeth y e scriptures with out iudgemēt or reasō he wil haue Byshoppes iudges in seculer matters and that euery manne maye apeale to them When it is well knowen that that thynge was neuer graunted vnto them before the tyme of Theodosius the Emperour and agayne he sayeth that Cephas signifieth a head where as in dede it signifieth a stone And furthermore I can proue the Epistles of Euaristus to be of none authoritie not onely by that he bryngeth manye sentences of scripture sasly writhed y t priestes should not be accused of any lay mē but also because he writeth ad Gallium Barduā two Counsels in whose tyme Anacletus was Byshop of Rome not Euaristus which thing is euident by the histories Master Pseudolog us blushed was ashamed wonderfully when these thinges were layd to his charge because he appeared openlye to all mens sight to haue played a false parte whiche thinge when the embassador of Antioche perceyued he left hym as he was and gaue place to the imbassador of Hierusalē who spake than wonderfully in this wise There is no doubt but that Christ who was the chiefe and vniuersall Byshop of hys churche preached his gospell chiefely at Hierusalē in y e which place he was contented to dye for our sakes And this is also certaine y t Iames succeded in hys roume who was nexte Byshoppe in Hierusalem after Christ. Wherfore yf there shoulde be any supreme vniuersall and visible head stablished in yearth of the church of Christ militant because it is sufficiently proued that Peter was not the chiefe Byshoppe our Byshoppes of Hierusalem oughte to be Popes and not the Byshoppes of Rome For you woulde haue your Byshoppes of Rome to be Popes because of none other reason but that they succeded Peter we maye muche the better chalenge oure Byshoppes of Hierusalem to bee chiefe Byshoppes because they succeded Christ in so muche as Christ is greater and more excellente then Peter As touching Christe it is knowen ryght well that he was the vniuersall head of hys churche and that he was crucified in Hierusalem And more ouer not onely Paule nameth Iames first before Peter and Iohn but also in the first consell of the Apostles where as Peter Paule Barnabas and the rest of the Apostles speake he as their heade and iudge sayed his mynde laste whiche was aproued of all thapostles and of the whole congregation And it is not to be doubted but that if the church of Hierusalem be the mother as she is in dede of all other churches and of whome all other churches had theyr beginninge wherefore she ought to bee called mother as it was determyned in Nicene counsell Then muste the byshop of Hierusalem as the spouse of the churche be called the vniuersall father of all other churches and the chiefe byshoppe and byshoppe ouer all other byshops as your Clement calleth hym in hys fyrste epistle if it bee hys as you doe alledge Then thus he sayed These wordes haue I spoken not that I thinke oure byshoppes to bee highest by any meanes for Christe onely is thuniuersall head of hys churche who is onelye sufficient but to declare vnto you by a certayne suer reason if there muste bee anye supreme heade in earthe thesame ought rather by right belonge to our byshop then to the byshop of Rome Ye maye nowe see howe muche vanitie there is in your reasons when our reasons bee so sclender and yet better then yours For Christe made neither Peter neither Iames y ● supreme head of his churche And yet in the fyrste coun●ell of the Apostles Iames sayed hys mynde laste as byshop of Hierusalem and Paule nameth hym before Peter and Iohn But it followeth not therefore that he was vniuersall byshop aboue all other byshops Notwithstanding this one thinge is trewe that our churche muste be called the mother of all other churches not that it ought to gouerne all other churches as you make your argument Whiche thinge canne not be but because all other churches had theyr originall and fyrste begynnynge of it Wherefore oure byshoppes haue the fyrst place in the counsell appoynted vnto them and bee called bishops of the fyrst seate because of the estimacion of the citie wherein Christe was put to deathe But they muste not therefore bee called the byshops of other byshoppes and the vniuersall heades of the churche of Christe The imbassadour of Alexandrya interrupted thys imbassadour of hys tale sayinge What nede we so many wordes in so playne a matter Yf the byshoppes of Rome had receaued thys