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A40102 A vindication of the Friendly conference, between a minister and a parishioner of his inclining unto Quakerism, &c. from the exceptions of Thomas Ellwood, in his pretended answer to the said conference / by the same author. Fowler, Edward, 1632-1714.; Ellwood, Thomas, 1639-1713. 1678 (1678) Wing F1729; ESTC R20275 188,159 354

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ancestor_n who_o charge_v the_o land_n therewith_o which_o if_o he_o have_v dislike_v he_o may_v have_v let_v they_o alone_o so_o the_o people_n pay_v we_o our_o tithe_n but_o than_o it_o be_v no_o thanks_o to_o they_o nor_o burden_n neither_o see_v they_o must_v have_v pay_v they_o or_o what_o be_v as_o valuable_a to_o some_o body_n else_o par._n you_o call_v tithe_n a_o freehold_a this_o nettle_n he_o extreme_o because_o that_o prove_v they_o a_o distinct_a property_n but_o he_o desire_v you_o to_o show_v those_o law_n to_o produce_v those_o statute_n that_o have_v tithe_n a_o freehold_a to_o the_o clergy_n p._n 331._o min._n who_o ever_o before_o this_o quaker_n require_v a_o statute_n to_o prove_v a_o freehold_a i_o think_v the_o representives_n of_o freeholder_n with_o the_o concurrence_n of_o the_o king_n and_o peer_n have_v make_v those_o statute_n which_o he_o call_v on_o i_o to_o produce_v i_o pray_v who_o elect_v the_o parliament_n man_n that_o serve_v for_o the_o county_n par._n the_o freeholder_n min._n and_o do_v you_o never_o see_v clergymens_n vote_n enter_v at_o one_o of_o those_o election_n par._n yes_o many_o a_o time_n min._n that_o very_a thing_n prove_v they_o freeholder_n so_o that_o you_o see_v t._n e._n be_v no_o better_a a_o lawyer_n than_o a_o divine_a for_o he_o shall_v have_v go_v to_o the_o common_a law_n and_o not_o to_o the_o statute_n law_n to_o prove_v a_o freehold_a par._n i_o find_v however_o that_o he_o have_v consult_v some_o statute_n for_o the_o payment_n of_o tithe_n and_o discover_v a_o fundamental_a error_n in_o they_o namely_o that_o tithe_n shall_v be_v due_a to_o god_n and_o holy_a church_n now_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o law_n say_v he_o be_v take_v away_o the_o law_n itself_o must_v cease_v p._n 335._o min._n the_o reason_n of_o the_o law_n will_v prove_v a_o fundamental_a truth_n for_o tithe_n be_v due_a to_o god_n and_o holy_a church_n either_o by_o a_o divine_a right_n or_o at_o least_o by_o a_o solemn_a dedication_n of_o they_o par._n but_o this_o scurvy_a word_n property_n vex_v he_o for_o he_o say_v nothing_o less_o will_v serve_v your_o turn_n p._n 336._o min._n no_o nothing_o less_o will_v serve_v my_o turn_n par._n but_o then_o he_o inquire_v where_o it_o be_v vest_v in_o who_o say_v he_o do_v it_o lie_v be_v it_o in_o the_o person_n of_o the_o priest_n no_o such_o matter_n for_o a_o man_n may_v be_v a_o priest_n in_o order_n and_o yet_o have_v no_o power_n to_o demand_v tithe_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o the_o property_n if_o there_o be_v any_o will_v lie_v in_o the_o office_n ibid._n min._n what_o office_n do_v he_o mean_v by_o office_n par._n he_o propound_v the_o question_n himself_o and_o what_o be_v the_o office_n ibid._n min._n but_o how_o do_v he_o resolve_v it_o par._n thus_o it_o be_v to_o be_v sure_o a_o popish_a office_n when_o tithe_n be_v first_o pay_v to_o it_o in_o this_o nation_n ib._n min._n be_v this_o a_o answer_n to_o a_o question_n what_o be_v then_o that_o popish_a office_n par._n that_o he_o do_v not_o tell_v we_o but_o i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v the_o office_n of_o a_o priest_n for_o he_o say_v the_o priest_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o tithe_n until_o by_o presentation_n institution_n and_o induction_n he_o be_v invest_v with_o office_n ibid._n min._n wonderful_a learned_a nonsense_n yet_o i_o must_v tell_v he_o that_o neither_o presentation_n nor_o institution_n nor_o induction_n nor_o these_o altogether_o invest_v a_o man_n with_o the_o office_n of_o priest_n in_o short_a he_o confound_v himself_o by_o distinguish_v between_o the_o person_n and_o the_o office_n as_o he_o call_v it_o and_o because_o this_o property_n do_v not_o belong_v to_o either_o of_o they_o apart_o therefore_o he_o conclude_v there_o be_v no_o property_n at_o all_o whereas_o the_o property_n belong_v to_o the_o person_n as_o qualify_v by_o holy_a order_n and_o put_v into_o actual_a possession_n by_o institution_n and_o induction_n par._n he_o think_v he_o have_v a_o clever_a argument_n to_o prove_v you_o have_v no_o property_n in_o tithe_n for_o he_o say_v to_o manifest_v the_o emptiness_n of_o your_o plea_n you_o have_v no_o property_n until_o the_o owner_n by_o set_v it_o out_o for_o you_o have_v make_v you_o one_o p._n 337._o min._n suppose_v a_o landlord_n set_v a_o farm_n for_o 10_o l._n per_fw-la a_o have_v he_o not_o a_o property_n to_o such_o a_o sum_n though_o not_o to_o any_o particular_a coin_n till_o such_o time_n as_o he_o have_v receive_v it_o so_o we_o have_v a_o property_n to_o a_o ten_o though_o not_o to_o such_o a_o particular_a sheaf_n until_o such_o time_n as_o it_o be_v tithe_v and_o set_v out_o for_o we_o par._n there_o be_v one_o argument_n more_o which_o he_o seem_v wonderful_o fond_a of_o with_o which_o he_o fill_v up_o many_o of_o his_o page_n viz._n that_o you_o have_v the_o tithe_n of_o the_o husbandman_n labour_n toil_n sweat_n care_n charge_n diligence_n nay_o in_o one_o place_n he_o think_v you_o lay_v claim_n to_o his_o understanding_n p._n 325._o min._n whoever_o reap_v the_o tithe_n of_o t._n be_v understanding_n will_v not_o find_v himself_o much_o enrich_v by_o it_o and_o i_o must_v tell_v the_o quaker_n that_o if_o land_n can_v bring_v forth_o without_o labour_n toil_n charge_n etc._n etc._n and_o tenant_n pay_v no_o more_o than_o they_o do_v the_o argument_n will_v look_v with_o more_o show_n of_o reason_n but_o as_o the_o case_n stand_v it_o be_v a_o perfect_a fallacy_n there_o want_v not_o those_o who_o suggest_v such_o stuff_n as_o this_o to_o the_o people_n in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o prophet_n malachi_n as_o if_o they_o be_v squeeze_v and_o impoverish_v by_o the_o payment_n of_o their_o tithe_n wherefore_o god_n call_v on_o they_o to_o try_v whether_o they_o shall_v be_v loser_n by_o it_o bringye_n say_v he_o all_o the_o tithe_n into_o the_o store-house_n that_o there_o may_v be_v meat_n in_o my_o house_n and_o prove_v i_o now_o herewith_o if_o i_o will_v not_o open_v the_o window_n of_o heaven_n and_o pour_v you_o out_o a_o blessing_n that_o there_o shall_v not_o be_v room_n enough_o to_o receive_v it_o so_o certain_o those_o that_o pay_v their_o tithe_n in_o a_o conscientious_a regard_n to_o god_n as_o consecrate_v to_o his_o worship_n proverb_n and_o service_n may_v be_v sure_a to_o be_v no_o loser_n and_o that_o god_n will_v open_v the_o window_n of_o heaven_n and_o give_v a_o blessing_n to_o their_o labour_n toil_n care_n &_o diligence_n will_v bless_v their_o crop_n and_o their_o cattle_n when_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n all_o sacrilegious_a robber_n do_v trouble_v their_o own_o house_n be_v enemy_n to_o themselves_o and_o family_n deprive_v themselves_o of_o god_n blessing_n which_o only_o make_v rich_a be_v not_o unlike_a to_o the_o eagle_n in_o the_o fable_n who_o steal_v a_o coal_n from_o the_o altar_n and_o carry_v it_o to_o her_o nest_n set_v therewith_o both_o her_o young_a and_o nest_n on_o fire_n tithe_n have_v be_v long_o settle_v in_o the_o nation_n and_o the_o church_n right_a to_o they_o be_v antecedent_n to_o any_o proprietor_n of_o land_n who_o buy_v their_o estate_n liable_a to_o such_o a_o encumbrance_n and_o consequent_o have_v a_o proportionable_a deduction_n in_o the_o purchase-money_n and_o so_o no_o injury_n to_o they_o and_o if_o so_o why_o shall_v they_o grumble_v at_o the_o payment_n of_o that_o which_o be_v never_o reckon_v to_o they_o in_o the_o purchase_n par._n yes_o say_v t._n e._n they_o purchase_v all_o that_o be_v not_o except_v out_o of_o the_o purchase_n p._n 344._o min._n but_o tithe_n be_v except_v out_o of_o the_o purchase_n for_o every_o body_n know_v that_o they_o be_v except_v by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o nation_n and_o therefore_o it_o will_v have_v be_v impertinent_a to_o have_v except_v they_o in_o the_o the_o body_n of_o the_o purchase-deed_n but_o it_o any_o land_n be_v to_o be_v sell_v which_o be_v exempt_v from_o the_o payment_n of_o tithe_n than_o to_o be_v sure_o the_o purchaser_n shall_v hear_v of_o that_o in_o both_o his_o ear_n and_o for_o such_o a_o convenience_n must_v pay_v to_o a_o farthing_n a_o friend_n of_o i_o be_v late_o concern_v in_o the_o purchase_n of_o a_o little_a meadow-close_a the_o strict_a tithe_n of_o which_o be_v compute_v at_o 5s_n per_fw-la a_o but_o the_o parson_n be_v bind_v up_o by_o a_o modus_fw-la or_o composition_n of_o 2d_o per_fw-la a_o payable_a at_o candlemas_n possible_o you_o will_v say_v my_o friend_n have_v a_o convenience_n here_o that_o he_o pay_v but_o 2d_o instead_o of_o hay_n worth_a 5s_n by_o the_o year_n but_o then_o i_o must_v tell_v you_o that_o it_o be_v no_o convenience_n at_o all_o for_o his_o exemption_n from_o the_o tithe_n in_o kind_n to_o my_o