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A93702	Rome ruin'd by VVhite Hall, or, The papall crown demolisht: containing a confutation of the three degrees of popery, viz. papacy, prelacy, and presbitery; answerable to the triple crowne of the three-headed Cerberus the Pope, with his three fold hierarchies aforesaid. With a dispelling of all other dispersed clouds of errour, which doth interpose the clear sun-shine of the Gospel in our horrizon. Wherein the chiefe arguments each of them have, for the vindication of their erronious tenents are incerted, and refuted; with a description of such whem [sic] the true Church of Christ doth consist of: as also how, and by whom, they may be gathered, and governed, according to the will, and appointment of Jesus Christ, and his apostles, in the primative purity thereof. / By Iohn Spittlehouse, assistant to the Marshall Generall of the Army, under the command of his Excellency, the Lord Generall Fairfax. Imprimated by Theod. Jennings, and entred in the Stationers Hall.	Spittlehouse, John.	1649 (1649)	Wing S5013; Thomason E586_2; ESTC R203633	304,213	396

proved and therefore being so adored here on earth is Idolatry and Superstition CHAP. VIII The eighth Chapter treateth of their Limbus Patrum or their Purgatory SECT 1. Objection THeir opinion of Purgatory or Limbus Patrum where they say all the ancient Fathers were before Christ they ground upon such Texts of Scripture as these viz. In that it is said that Abraham was gathered to his people Gen. 25. 8. c. which Purgatory say they is not for the purging of Mortall but Veniall sinnes and therefore the sinnes of the Fathers were purged there But that Abraham went to no such place is evident Luke 16. Against these grosse opinion of Purgatory or Limbus Patrum 15. where the place to which he went is called Abrahams bosome which certainly cannot be a member of Hell as they make Limbus the Apostle also sheweth to what place the faithfull are gathered unto Heb. 6. 12. where he exhorteth to be followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises as also Heb. 12. 22 23. where the Author termeth the place to which they are gathered The City of the living God the heavenly Jerusalem the place of an innumerable company of Angels the generall Assembly and Church of the first borne which are written ïn Heaven to God the Judge of all and to the spirits of just men made perfect so that where the spirits of just men were there the Angels were for so we read Luk. 16. 22. that Lazarus's Soule was carried by Angels into Abrahams bosome but Angels are not in Limbus Patrum ergo not the soules of Saints departed Again Henock is said to be of that people to whom Abraham was gathered but Henock was not in Limbus for he was taken up into heaven Gen. 5. 24. 2. Abraham went to his fathers in ●race Gen 25. 8. that is with joy and comfort but what joy and comfort is there in Limbus a Lake and dungeon of darknesse 3. To be joyned to his people is not to be joyned to the Angels for Abraham is said to goe to his Fathers but the Angels were not his Fathers neither is the phrase alone as to say he slept with his Fathers or went the way of all flesh or changed his life for Ishmael is also said to goe to his people Gen. 25. 17. SECT 2. Of Abrahams and Ishmaels people NOw Abraham and Ishmael had not the same people to goe unto the faithfull cannot be said to be Ishmaels people nor the prophane sort to be Abrahams people but if the meaning of the phrase were no more then that they were joyned to the state of the dead the faithfull and prophane should all goe to one people wherefore this phrase must needs imply a speciall disposition of the Soules of the faithfull after this life in being associated to the company of the just and laying up their bodies in an assured hope of the resurrection The Apostle also sheweth what it is for the righteous to be gathered to their people Heb. 12. 22 23. to which we are joyned by faith whilst we live and really when we are dead as one saith now quo ad spem in hope but then quo ad rem indeed Again the Spirit of the Lord pronounceth a blessing to them that dye in the Lord Rev. 14. 13. which are three Arguments against Purgatory 1. In that they which dye in the faith of Christ are blessed but they which are in Hells torments for Purgatory they say is a part of Hell are not blessed 2. They are said to rest from their labours but they which are in Purgatory are in labour and paine 3. Their works are said to follow them for their reward but they which are tormented and punished are not rewarded Therefore we acknowledge no other Purgatory but in this life No other Purgatory but in this life a perfect purgation of our sins in Christ and an imperfect which is by a fiery probation of affliction as the Apostle termeth it 1 Pet. 4. 12. where he willeth the Jewes not to think strange concerning the fiery triall which was amongst them to prove them Job also sheweth that our Purgatory fire is in the affliction and sorrow of this life where he saith Ex ibo aurum I shall come forth like Gold Job 23. 10. As also the Prophet Isaiah saith That the Lords fire i● in Sion and his furnace at Jerusalem Isa 35. 9. it is not then in Hell or Purgatory SECT 3. The Papists leave many things uncertain and undiscussed touching Purgatory AGain the most learned of them shewing the difference betwixt the ministry of the Angels in this life and in the next leaveth it as uncertain and undiscussed whether the good Angels or the bad are the Ministers of the torments in Purgatory as for the bad Angels that they should be the Ministers of the Torments in Purgatory or that they should exercise power over them that in their life time did conquer the Devill they hold not neither yet will they have them to be the good Angels for it is not meet say they that they which shall shortly come to be fellowes and partakers with the blessed Angels in Heaven should be punished by such Angels Now let any reasonable man judge whether Purgatory be a meere fantasie yea or no where there is supposed to be torments and yet no tormentors viz. neither good or bad Angels and if not they who then not Christ I am certain for he hath redeemed them neither God himself for the Apostle saith Who shall lay any thing to the charge of Gods elect it is God that justifieth who shall condemne Rom. 8. 33 34. God then having justified them by faith in Jesus Christ there is nothing further to be laid to their charge if then there be no tormentor in Purgatory there is no torment in Purgatory and so the fire of Purgatory is quite extinguished and put out SECT 4. Other circumstances not agreed on c. AGain besides the uncertainty who should be the tormenters there be other maine points not yet resolved amongst them concerning Purgatory as 1. Of the place where it is 2. Of the fire what it is whether it be Corporall or Spirituall 3. Of the time how long it shall last whether for hundreds of yeares or thousands 4. Concerning the greatnesse of the paine whether it exceed all the torments and punishments in this life all which Articles are not yet defined and determined amongst them we will therefore leave them to their uncertainties and as they make question of the circumstances of Purgatory so let all Christians not only make question of Purgatory it self but also assure themselves Purgatory and Absolution invented only to get money that it is meerely an invention of their owne as that of Absolution which they invented for no other end then to advance themselves in wealth and dignity For otherwise what rationall man can think that it is in the power of any man to forgive the