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A16708 Sainct Austines religion collected from his owne writinges & from the confessio[n]s of the learned Protestants, whereby is sufficiently proued and made knowen the like answearable doctrine of the other more auncient fathers of the primitiue church / written by Iohn Brereley. Anderton, James, fl. 1624.; Anderton, Lawrence. 1620 (1620) STC 3608; ESTC S2531 164,549 408

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of our sinnes and life not onely for Christ his sake through faith but also for the merit of our workes Melancthon writeth that (n) In colloquio Altembe●g fol. 307. we are iust not onely by faith but by al guiftes and vertues and this truly is Austines mind yea he preuenteth the obiection of S. Austin somtimes mencioning onely faith saying (o) Ibidem fol. 308. with Austin onely faith onely excludeth workes going before faith S. Austin teacheth that mortal and venial sinnes do differ of their owne natures SECTION 4. COncerning the distinction of mortal and venial sinne the difference wherof aryseth according to the Protestants opinion not from the diuersity of the sinnes in them selues but of the parties committing them so as to their faithful professors if we wil beleeue (o) Institut l. 3. c. 4. sec 28. Fulke against Rhem. Test in ep Iean sec 5. fol. 447. Caluin Fulke and others al sinnes are venial and vnto others as (p) Willet sinopsis p. 560. Papistes al sinnes are mortal yet S. Austin teacheth the contrary somtimes saith (q) Tom. 3. Enchirid c. 22. post med he we lye for the good of others a sinne therefore it is but venial And (r) Tom. 7. cont duas ep Pelag. l. 3. c. 3. post init Al sinnes do not make vs the sonnes of the deuil yea he recyteth (s) Tom. 10. de sanctis serm 41. post init And Tom. 3. Enchirid. c. 78. 79. quae sunt minuta peccata which are litle sinnes as for example as often as a man eateth and drinketh more then is necessary or speaketh more then is meete or is more silent then is expedient with a number more such like In so much that Peter Martir writeth that (t) Common places part 3. c. 4. sec 81. p. 153. S. Austin in his books de spir et lit c. 28. saith euen as there are certaine venial sinnes without which euery iust man cannot liue and yet they hinder vs not from saluation so are there c. And as for these venial sinnes S. Austin thinketh that the saying of our Lords prayer is expiatory for them for thus he writeth There (u) Tom. 9. de symbolo ad Catechum l. 1. c. 7. circa med are venial sinnes without which this life is not c. for litle sinnes without which we cannot be prayer is inuented what haith prayer forgeue vs our debtes c. if their sinnes were smale ones this dayly prayer would suffice to blot them out In like sort (x) Tom. 4. de vera et fal paenit c. 4. propefin There are certaine venial sinnes which are dayly loosed by our Lords prayer c. but others which are to death are not so loosed but by the fruictes of penance Againe (y) Tom. 3. Enchirid c. 71 for dayly short and light sinnes without which this life is not spent the dayly prayer of the faithful satisfyeth And he expresly maketh difference betweene (z) Tom. 5. de ciuit Dei l. 21. c. 27. in rhe Eng. trans p. 871. 872. sinne and crime betweene great sinnes and smale sinnes affirming withal that this which he speaketh of our Lords prayer concerneth smale sinnes onely To which purpose he is further alledged by the 4. Tolletane (a) Can. 9. Councel As lastly that S. Austin doubteth not to affirme that (b) Tom. 4. de vera et fal paenit c. 20. et vlt. post init venial sinnes were alwaies forgeuen by ceremonies Now this doctrine of the difference of mortal and venial sinnes is so cleare a truth that with S. Austin and vs it is likewise taught and defended by (c) Loc. com part 3. in his Thesis therto annexed fol. 24. Melancth in concil Euang p. 546. Musculus loc com p. 29. The harmony of confessions p. 81. Chemnitius Melancthon and other Protestant writers Concerning prayer for the dead Purgatory material fire in hel Lymbus Patrum inuocatiō of Sainctes their worship and Images CHAPTER 14. S. Austin teacheth that it is lawful and godly to pray for the dead that there is a place of Purgatory after this life SECTION I. COncerning prayer for the dead S. Austin was so wholly Catholicke as that without altergiuersation or staggering he spareth not to write that (a) Tom. 10. de verbis Apostoli serm 32. c. 2. initio It is not to be doubted but that the dead are holpē by the prayers of the holy Church and by the wholsome sacrifice and almes which are geuen for their soules that our Lord may deale more mercifully with them then their sinnes haue deserued for the vniuersal Church obserueth this as deliuered from their forefathers that those should be prayed for and the sacrifice remembred to be offered for them who dye in the communion of the body and bloud of Christ when they are remembred in their place at the time of the sacrifice c. It is not to be doubted but that these thinges do profit the dead but such who haue so liued before their death that these thinges may be profitable to them after their death for such as dye without faith which worketh by charity and the Sacraments in vaine are these workes of pitty bestowed vpon them by their frendes c Therefore no new merits are obtained for the dead when their frendes do any good for them but their owne merits going before these are made to follow Yea his aduise is that as for such thinges which helpe the soules of the deade as sacrifices prayers almes they bestow vpon those more diligently instantly abundantly who being deade in flesh not in spirit they loue not onely carnally but spiritually Againe (b) Tom. 3. Enchirid c. 110. initio there is one so good that these thinges he needeth not and againe another so euil that neither can he be holpen with these when he dyeth c. therefore they profit not al men c. when then the sacrifice of the Altar or of any Almes are offered for al the deade that are baptised for those that are very good they are thanksgeuinges for those that are not very euil they are propitiatiōs or sacrifices satisfying Gods iustice Also (m) Tom. 4. de cura pro mortuis c. 18. init they profit not al for whom they are done but those onely who while they liued deserued that they profit them but because we know not who those are we ought to do them for al the regenerate Now wheras D. Morton and other Protestants do vulgarly obiect that S. Austin prayed for his mother Monica whom yet he thought to be in heauen and that the like was done by other Fathers for those who vndoubtedly were also in heauen this S. Austin for him selfe and the other Fathers haith answeared and explained in the precedent wordes affirming that for such as were very good or in heauen prayers were thankesgeuinges and for those who were not very euil or in hel they were