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opinion_n	mortal_a	sin_n	venial_a	597	5	12.4318	5	true

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A14612	The contrition of a Protestant preacher, converted to be a Catholiqve scholler conteyning certayne meditations vpon the fourth penitentiall psalme, Miserere / composed by Iames Waddesworth, Bachlour of Diuinitie in the Vniversity of Cambridge, & late parson of Cotton, and of Great-Thorneham in the County of Suffolke, who went into Spaine with the Kinges Maiesties first Embassadour-Legier, as his chaplayne ...	Wadsworth, James, 1572?-1623.	1615 (1615)	STC 24924.5; ESTC S2953	166,461	144

subiect to the motions of concupiscence which are not properly sinne but only the remnantes and effectes of originall sinne and inclinations alone to actuall sinne For Baptisme doth alltogether so abolish originall sinne that nothing therof remayneth in vs which hath still the true nature of sinne Otherwise how are we cleansed by his washing as S. Paul saith And hath reconciled vs to exhibite vs immaculate And to be renati borne agayne by water the holy ghoste therby to be as free from originall sinne quasi modo geniti euen as new borne infantes are cleane from actuall sinne 4. And in circumcision the foreskin was not imputatiuely but really cut away In Iordan Naamans leprosy was quite taken away And S. Gregory saith That he who auouche●h that sinnes are not altogether released in Baptisme let him say that the Egiptians were not indeede truly drowned in the red sea And S. Paul proueth that as in Adam all dye so in Christe all shall be reuiued viz truly verely really not so alone estemed or reputed And that we are buryed together with Christe by Baptisme in his death S. Augustin inferreth expressely That as in him was fulfilled a true death so in vs a true remission of sinnes and as in him a true resurrection so in vs a true iustification But the death of Christe and resurrection were true euery way not true in regarde of somewhat and in another respecte false Therfore allso the remission of sinnes is a true death of sinne not in respect of the Guilte only but in regarde of all thinges which haue respect of sinne 5. Not taken away in the Guilte alone as heretiques auouch and remayning in the Acte for how can the Acte of sinne be separated from the Guilte in this concupiscence Nay they themselues must needes confesse it hath still some Guilte whiles they say it is still true sinne for how can true sinne remayne w●thout some Guilte Or if we be free only from the dominion not free from all blemish or consideration of true sinne thoughe it be said this blemish is not imputed vnto vs yet if there remayne true sinne then are we not in deede free but in opinion And if that blemish or spotte remayning be true sinne then according to their owne doctrine it is a true mortall sinne for they admitte none veniall But to remayne in true mortall sinne and yet not to be in fauor of God is impossible for the same person to be in state of grace ●nd of saluation and in mortall sinne and so in state of damnation all at the same instante is as possible as to ioyne light and darknes Christe Beliall 6. But Protestants finding in our weake natures after Baptisme certein motions of concupiscence vnto sinne they deceiue themselues supposing these to be in deede sinne Some of ignorance because they distinguish not betwene the prouenes or inclinations of concupiscence and betwene the Acte of concupiscence for the firste is most especially perteyning to originall sinne thoughe after baptisme it is no sinne but only the effecte of originall sinne And the second which is an Actuall motion vnto sinne perteynes rather to Actuall sinne then to originall to which if there be added consent or full delighte then it is a complete actuall sinne otherwise no sinne These men therfore are deceiued in accompting that originall sinne which perteyneth to actuall But some others doo accompte the very firste pronenes or concupiscibility without any acte or consent to be of it se●fe sinne because it seemes the roote of sinne Wherin they doo manifestly admitte that defecte and ignominy of the vertue of our lordes grace in Baptisme which S· Augustin was so carefull not to admitte viz that in baptisme originall sinne only is razed of not vtterly rooted out 7. And in this poynte whether the first motions of our concupiscence be sinne Caluin himselfe is driuen to confesse the Ancyent Doctors to be against him His wordes are these Neyther is it needfull to labour in serching what the Ancyent doo thinke herein when therabout one Augustin may suffice who faithfully and with great diligence hath collected all their judgements and a little after he addes Yet betwene him and vs there is this difference That he in deede dare not call the m●lady of concupiscence a sinne but being content to decipher it by the name of Infirmity he teacheth it then finally to become sinne when eyther action or consent is added therunto Which is the same and no other then that which S. Iames said Concupiscence when it hath conceiued bringeth forthe sinn● and sinne when it is complete bringeth death Vpon which wordes S. Gregory and our venerable Countryman Bede maketh three daughters or effectes of concupiscence 1. suggestion when any vnlawfull thoughte doth sodeinly present it selfe to our minde whervnto if we doo not consent but resiste it doth not bringe forthe sinne but a crowne of life 2. Delectation when we doo not perfectly resiste the first motion or suggestion but in a mixte sorte we are somewhat delighted therin althoughe not with a full but with an imperfect consent then hath sinne conceiued venially not mortally But in the 3. if we proceede to a deliberate full consent althoughe it be only in thoughte yet then is it a complete sinne either veniall or mortall according as the matter of sinne wherunto we haue consented is veniall or mortalll As it is a mortall deadly sinne to see a woman and with full consent of thoughte deliberately to lust after her this is a complete sinne bringing forthe death thoughe it neuer come to action because as our Sauiour saith he hath allready committed adultery in his harte and as he hath fully in thoughte consented and either purpo●ed or deliberately desired to put his thoughte in execution so if he had meanes he woulde in deede practise it in Action 8. As for those Textes in the 6. and 7. chapters to the Romanes thoughe concupiscence be there diuerse times called sinne Eyther he meaneth concupiscence actuall which hath some delighte or consent Or else if he vnderstand the first motions which are the remnantes of originall sinne yet he calleth them sinne improperly and so these are termed sinne because they are following effectes and remnantes of originall sinne Not that either of these after baptisme are in themselues sinne excepte we doo consent vnto them In like sorte S. Paul was soulde vnder sinne where S. Chrysostome saith he speaketh in the person of wicked men not absolutely of himselfe Or as S. Augustin interpreteth him against the Pelagians He was soulde vnder the sinne of Adam but now is redeemed throughe Christe our lord And so he complayneth of some remnantes of that bondage that he had still the sens● of concupiscence but did not consent and therfore addeth what he did that he did not approoue it viz not allowe of those motions which he did fee●e And so he performed the euill which he hated vbi facere