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A03334 The first motiue of T.H. Maister of Arts, and lately minister, to suspect the integrity of his religion which was detection of falsehood in D. Humfrey, D. Field, & other learned protestants, touching the question of purgatory, and prayer for the dead. VVith his particular considerations perswading him to embrace the Catholick doctrine in theis, and other points. An appendix intituled, try before you trust. Wherein some notable vntruths of D. Field, and D. Morton are discouered. Higgons, Theophilus, 1578?-1659. 1609 (1609) STC 13454; ESTC S104083 165,029 276

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a_o punishment_n of_o sin_n as_o you_o may_v see_v by_o the_o sequel_n deni_v it_o and_o therefore_o show_v in_o what_o sense_n he_o there_o intend_v that_o when_o all_o sin_n shall_v be_v huberti_fw-la be_v prorsus_fw-la d._n field_n himself_o confess_v pag._n 98._o that_o death_n tyrannize_v over_o the_o body_n etc._n etc._n serm._n in_o ●bitu_fw-la huberti_fw-la whole_o take_v out_o of_o the_o way_n then_o shall_v no_o effect_n of_o it_o remain_v he_o subnect_v this_o sentence_n in_o his_o sweet_a and_o divine_a manner_n viz._n happy_a be_v our_o expectation_n and_o bless_a be_v our_o hope_n who_o resurrection_n shall_v be_v much_o more_o glorious_a than_o our_o first_o estate_n of_o creation_n before_o our_o fall_n forasmuch_o as_o neither_o sin_n nor_o punishment_n neither_o evil_a nor_o scourdge_n shall_v reign_v or_o dwell_v or_o have_v possibility_n to_o reign_v or_o dwell_v either_o in_o our_o body_n or_o soul_n 11._o to_o conclude_v it_o may_v please_v you_o to_o read_v and_o 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