Selected quad for the lemma: opinion_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
opinion_n	holy_a	scripture_n	word_n	2,200	5	4.1068	3	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A62427	The Quakers quibbles in three parts : first set forth in an expostulatory epistle to Will. Pfnn [i.e. Penn] concerning the late meeting held to Barbycan between the Baptists and the Quakers, also the pretended prophet Lod. Muggleton and the Quakers compared : the second part, in reply to a quibbling answer to G. Whiteheads, entituled The Quakers plainness ... : the third part, being a continuation of their quibbles ... / by the same indifferent pen.	Thompson, Thomas.; Hedworth, Henry.; Penn, William, 1644-1718.	1675 (1675)	Wing T1013; ESTC R41153	141,349	262

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quibbler_n and_o equivocator_n g.w._n p._n 24._o and_o also_o know_v as_o co-worker_n in_o the_o order_n and_o degree_n of_o manifestation_n and_o discovery_n and_o yet_o g.w._n himself_o when_o he_o write_v against_o a_o baptist_n for_o say_v now_o as_o he_o be_v god_n he_o be_v co-creator_n with_o the_o father_n then_o he_o condemn_v it_o as_o nonsense_n say_v what_o nonsense_n and_o unscriptural_a language_n be_v this_o to_o tell_v of_o god_n be_v co-creator_n with_o the_o father_n or_o that_o god_n have_v glory_n with_o god_n do_v not_o this_o imply_v two_o god_n and_o that_o god_n have_v a_o father_n say_v g.w._n the_o light_n and_o life_n etc._n etc._n p._n 47._o oh_o excellent_a george_n what_o difference_n between_o co-worker_n and_o co-creator_n do_v you_o not_o most_o frequent_o and_o importune_o charge_v your_o socinian_n with_o the_o horrible_a crime_n of_o deny_v that_o jesus_n christ_n make_v or_o create_v the_o world_n and_o yet_o be_v there_o any_o socinian_n nay_o jew_n or_o turk_n that_o will_v deny_v that_o one_o god_n who_o we_o call_v the_o father_n of_o jesus_n christ_n make_v the_o world_n and_o thou_o say_v its_o nonsense_n to_o tell_v of_o god_n or_o christ_n as_o god_n be_v co-creator_n with_o the_o father_n oh_o disingenuous_a man_n that_o endeavour_n to_o get_v repute_n to_o yourselves_o by_o revile_v other_o with_o that_o very_a thing_n whereof_o yourselves_o be_v guilty_a and_o the_o ground_n of_o your_o reproach_n be_v that_o you_o can_v equivocate_v and_o they_o can_v 14._o g.w._n p._n 24._o say_v that_o the_o distinction_n of_o father_n and_o son_n be_v not_o only_o nominal_a but_o real_a now_o then_o let_v he_o if_o he_o can_v answer_v and_o confute_v his_o sincere-hearted_n and_o zealous_a brother_n w.p._n in_o his_o sandy-foundation_n p._n 13._o mr._n pen_n argument_n be_v this_o since_o the_o father_n be_v god_n the_o son_n be_v god_n and_o the_o spirit_n be_v god_n which_o their_o opinion_n necessitate_v they_o to_o 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