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A49844 Observations upon a short treatise, written by Mr. Timothy Manlove, intituled, The immortality of the soul asserted and printed in octavo at London, 1697. Layton, Henry, 1622-1705. 1697 (1697) Wing L757; ESTC R39118 87,777 128

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