be_v answer_v albeit_o if_o he_o do_v but_o set_v down_o the_o whole_a place_n themselves_o as_o they_o lie_v in_o the_o father_n book_n whence_o they_o be_v cut_v they_o will_v need_v no_o answer_n but_o will_v answer_v themselves_o and_o confute_v the_o alleager_v and_o show_v the_o shameless_a dealing_v either_o of_o peter_n martyr_n or_o john_n fox_n or_o of_o both_o in_o cytinge_v they_o the_o like_a deceytfull_a dealing_v be_v use_v by_o nicolas_n ridley_n b._n 1549._o then_o of_o rochester_n and_o after_o of_o london_n the_o next_o month_n follow_v in_o the_o cambridge_n disputation_n about_o the_o same_o controversy_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n whereof_o he_o be_v precedent_n martin_n bucer_n refuse_v utter_o to_o deal_v in_o that_o controversy_n he_o affirm_v to_o the_o whole_a university_n 1261._o that_o he_o have_v five_o sure_a ground_n for_o the_o opinion_n of_o zuinglius_fw-la whereof_o the_o first_o be_v to_o use_v his_o word_n the_o authority_n majesty_n and_o verity_n of_o holy_a scripture_n the_o second_o the_o most_o certain_a testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a catholic_a father_n etc._n etc._n whereas_o the_o truth_n be_v that_o both_o these_o foundation_n be_v most_o evident_o against_o he_o as_o much_o the_o one_o as_o the_o other_o which_o bucer_n well_o know_v &_o therefore_o will_v not_o take_v part_n with_o he_o in_o that_o matter_n though_o soon_o after_o to_o remedy_v this_o breach_n he_o put_v up_o three_o other_o impertinent_a question_n to_o be_v dispute_v against_o catholic_n but_o in_o this_o other_o article_n he_o know_v that_o ridley_n lie_v shameful_o against_o his_o own_o conscience_n for_o that_o all_o farther_n be_v against_o he_o most_o evident_o &_o so_o do_v the_o magdeburgian_o their_o chief_a protestant_a chronicler_n show_v &_o declare_v in_o every_o age_n father_n or_o century_n of_o their_o ecclesiastical_a history_n and_o it_o shall_v be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o reader_n to_o cast_v his_o eye_n over_o the_o 4._o chapter_n only_o of_o every_o century_n entitle_v of_o doctrine_n and_o thus_o much_o for_o k._n edward_n day_n when_o zuinglian_n religion_n first_o peep_v up_o in_o our_o country_n after_o this_o man_n step_v to_o paul_n cross_n in_o the_o begin_v of_o this_o queen_n day_n about_o the_o year_n 1559._o and_o 1560._o 1560._o master_n john_n jewel_n otherwise_o call_v b._n of_o salisbury_n and_o he_o proceed_v yet_o further_o in_o this_o brag_v or_o fiction_n for_o he_o protest_v there_o even_o with_o feign_a tear_n that_o if_o any_o one_o authority_n place_n sentence_n or_o asseveration_n of_o any_o one_o father_n doctor_z council_n or_o authentical_a history_n within_o the_o first_o 600._o year_n after_o christ_n can_v be_v bring_v forth_o by_o any_o man_n live_v for_o any_o one_o of_o those_o point_n of_o catholic_a religion_n which_o he_o there_o recite_v to_o be_v in_o controversy_n that_o then_o plain_o and_o sincere_o he_o will_v subscribe_v against_o which_o vain_a and_o shameless_a brag_v when_o doctor_n harding_n and_o diverse_a other_o learned_a man_n of_o our_o side_n begin_v to_o write_v from_o lovayne_n and_o to_o bring_v forth_o authoritye_n of_o all_o father_n doctor_n counsel_n and_o history_n in_o great_a abundance_n the_o first_o effect_n of_o this_o challenge_n that_o appear_v to_o the_o world_n be_v a_o severe_a proclamation_n that_o no_o such_o book_n write_v in_o english_a by_o the_o catholic_a party_n shall_v be_v receive_v or_o read_v in_o england_n under_o great_a punishment_n by_o which_o provision_n master_n jewel_n think_v himself_o meet_o well_o defence_v he_o ply_v the_o pulpit_n often_o and_o renew_v his_o challenge_n many_o time_n and_o perceive_v notwithstanding_o that_o doctor_n hardings_n confutation_n be_v come_v into_o england_n chaâ—lge_v he_o answer_v the_o same_o with_o a_o long_a volume_n of_o rhetorical_a word_n &_o stuff_v the_o margin_n thereof_o with_o the_o show_n of_o infinite_a author_n as_o though_o the_o whole_a world_n have_v be_v for_o he_o and_o none_o for_o the_o other_o side_n and_o with_o this_o he_o deceive_v the_o people_n then_o and_o do_v to_o this_o day_n such_o i_o mean_v as_o have_v not_o commodity_n or_o learning_n or_o other_o mean_n to_o examine_v those_o place_n and_o to_o find_v out_o the_o manifold_a lie_n and_o falsification_n therein_o contain_v and_o this_o be_v the_o gain_n by_o all_o likely_a hood_n that_o master_n jewel_n pretend_v to_o his_o cause_n by_o that_o work_n know_v full_a well_o that_o this_o sort_n of_o man_n be_v far_o the_o great_a which_o will_v be_v gain_v and_o settle_v in_o his_o doctrine_n before_o the_o learnede_a sort_n who_o be_v but_o few_o in_o comparison_n of_o the_o other_o can_v have_v time_n book_n and_o commodity_n to_o discover_v &_o refute_v he_o &_o when_o they_o shall_v do_v it_o they_o shall_v hardly_o be_v believe_v and_o in_o this_o conceit_n he_o be_v not_o deceive_v if_o we_o respect_v that_o present_a time_n and_o many_o year_n after_o as_o also_o it_o be_v probable_a the_o l._n plessis_n mornay_n have_v the_o like_a designment_n in_o stuff_v up_o his_o book_n with_o the_o like_a authoritye_n of_o father_n but_o if_o we_o consider_v the_o continuance_n of_o time_n whereof_o truth_n be_v say_v to_o be_v the_o daughter_n it_o have_v succeed_v unto_o he_o as_o you_o have_v hear_v and_o will_v do_v more_o and_o more_o daily_o as_o to_o such_o shift_n be_v wont_a to_o happen_v that_o be_v to_o say_v accord_v to_o king_n david_n say_v before_o record_v â—pprâ—brium_fw-la sempiternum_fw-la dedit_fw-la eye_n catholik_o god_n lay_v everlasting_a shame_n upon_o they_o for_o how_o many_o learned_a man_n light_o of_o our_o nation_n have_v take_v upon_o serious_o to_o go_v over_o that_o book_n of_o master_n jewel_n &_o to_o examine_v it_o by_o the_o author_n themselves_o with_o any_o indifferency_n of_o mind_n have_v for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v thereby_o convert_v to_o catholic_a religion_n though_o never_o so_o great_a protestant_n fore_o of_o which_o sort_n i_o have_v hear_v relation_n of_o many_o but_o of_o some_o i_o can_v testify_v myself_o for_o that_o i_o have_v hear_v it_o from_o their_o own_o mouth_n who_o of_o earnest_a protestant_n be_v make_v most_o zealous_a catholic_n by_o that_o mean_v principal_o of_o which_o number_n i_o think_v it_o not_o inconvenient_a to_o name_v hâ—â—re_o some_o 2._o or_o 3._o omittinge_n other_o which_o for_o just_a respect_n may_v not_o to_o be_v name_v the_o first_o of_o they_o be_v sir_n thomas_n copley_n protestancy_n make_v lord_n afterward_o in_o his_o banishment_n by_o the_o k._n of_o france_n who_o often_o time_n have_v relate_v unto_o i_o with_o much_o comfort_n of_o his_o soul_n how_o that_o be_v a_o zealous_a protestant_n and_o very_o familiar_a to_o the_o late_a earl_n of_o licester_n in_o the_o begin_v of_o this_o q._n day_n when_o master_n jewel_n book_n be_v new_o come_v forth_o he_o be_v also_o learn_v himself_o in_o the_o latyn_n tongue_n take_v pain_n to_o examine_v certain_a leaf_n thereof_o and_o find_v many_o falsehood_n therein_o which_o be_v in_o excusable_a as_o they_o seem_v to_o he_o he_o confer_v the_o same_o with_o the_o say_a earl_n who_o will_v he_o that_o the_o next_o time_n master_n jewel_n dine_v at_o his_o table_n he_o shall_v take_v occasion_n after_o dinner_n to_o propose_v the_o same_o which_o he_o do_v soon_o after_o and_o receive_v certain_a trifle_a answer_n from_o master_n jewel_n he_o wax_v more_o hot_a and_o urge_v the_o matter_n more_o earnest_o which_o jewel_n perceavinge_v copley_n tell_v he_o in_o effect_n that_o papist_n be_v papist_n and_o so_o they_o be_v to_o be_v deal_v withal_o and_o other_o answer_n he_o can_v not_o get_v which_o thing_n make_v the_o good_a gentleman_n to_o make_v a_o new_a resolution_n with_o himself_o and_o to_o take_v that_o happy_a course_n which_o he_o do_v to_o leave_v his_o country_n and_o many_o great_a commodity_n which_o he_o enjoy_v therein_o to_o enjoy_v the_o liberty_n of_o conscience_n for_o salvation_n of_o his_o soul_n and_o so_o he_o both_o live_v and_o die_v in_o voluntary_a banishment_n for_o confession_n of_o that_o truth_n which_o his_o saviour_n by_o occasion_n of_o master_n jewel_n falsehood_n have_v reveyl_v unto_o he_o the_o second_o example_n which_o i_o remember_v of_o my_o own_o knowledge_n steven_n be_v master_n doctor_n steven_n a_o learned_a man_n yet_o alive_a who_o be_v secretary_n or_o chaplyn_n to_o master_n jewel_n for_o i_o remember_v not_o well_o whether_o and_o a_o forward_a man_n in_o protestant_a religion_n at_o that_o time_n espy_v certain_a false_a allegation_n in_o his_o master_n book_n whilst_o it_o be_v yet_o under_o the_o print_n in_o london_n whereof_o advertisinge_v he_o by_o letter_n for_o that_o he_o suppose_v it_o may_v be_v by_o oversight_n the_o other_o command_v notwithstanding_o the_o print_n to_o go_v forward_o and_o pass_v it_o over_o
about_o the_o premise_n i_o have_v not_o think_v amiss_o to_o resent_v in_o part_n by_o this_o postscript_n what_o occur_v unto_o i_o in_o this_o behalf_n 1._o and_o first_o of_o all_o be_v the_o wonderful_a providence_n of_o almighty_a god_n in_o conservation_n and_o continuation_n of_o the_o old_a ancient_a catholic_a apostolic_a &_o universal_a faith_n leave_v at_o the_o assension_n of_o our_o saviour_n unto_o his_o follower_n and_o visible_a church_n that_o then_o be_v and_o spread_v by_o they_o miraculous_o in_o very_o short_a space_n over_o all_o the_o world_n church_n and_o continue_v ever_o since_o by_o tradition_n and_o succession_n of_o one_o age_n to_o another_o until_o our_o time_n under_o the_o protection_n and_o mighty_a powerable_a defence_n of_o the_o same_o lord_n and_o saviour_n and_o under_o the_o government_n of_o his_o only_a espouse_v the_o say_v catholic_a church_n 4._o against_o which_o church_n &_o descent_n of_o faith_n therein_o 3._o though_o many_o new_a fantasye_n and_o device_n of_o particular_a man_n which_o holy_a scripture_n call_v heresy_n have_v spring_v up_o in_o every_o age_n with_o fresh_a and_o glisteringe_a title_n 2._o of_o pure_a gospel_n of_o new_a reveyled_a truth_n of_o godly_a reformation_n and_o other_o like_a pretence_n and_o that_o god_n for_o more_o trial_n and_o exercise_n of_o his_o say_a church_n end_n &_o for_o the_o speedy_a redress_n perhaps_o of_o some_o abuse_n and_o corrupt_a manner_n creep_v into_o some_o part_n thereof_o have_v permit_v the_o say_v new_a invention_n to_o prevail_v grow_v and_o ruffle_v for_o a_o time_n as_o by_o experience_n of_o all_o age_n we_o have_v see_v yet_o ever_o in_o the_o end_n he_o bring_v the_o same_o to_o confusion_n and_o shame_n accord_v to_o those_o word_n of_o the_o psalm_n 76_o percussit_fw-la inimicos_fw-la suos_fw-la in_o posteriora_fw-la opprobrium_fw-la sempiternum_fw-la dedit_fw-la eye_n he_o strike_v his_o enemy_n in_o the_o hinder_a part_n that_o be_v towards_o the_o end_n of_o their_o ruffle_n and_o confound_v they_o with_o everlasting_a shame_n which_o prophesy_v of_o the_o psalmist_n be_v principal_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o heretical_a enemy_n haer_fw-mi as_o tertullian_n epiphanius_n &_o other_o ancient_a father_n write_v against_o they_o do_v interpret_v and_o the_o experience_n of_o like_a end_n in_o all_o heresy_n past_a do_v make_v it_o plain_n and_o this_o shame_n and_o confusion_n of_o heresy_n &_o heretic_n heresy_n which_o god_n providence_n do_v here_o foretell_v and_o in_o time_n also_o bring_v to_o pass_v so_o manifest_o as_o the_o whole_a world_n may_v be_v witness_n thereof_o consist_v principal_o in_o four_o point_n themselves_o as_o holy_a father_n do_v note_n first_o that_o every_o new_a sect_n divide_v itself_o quick_o into_o many_o other_o sect_n and_o heresy_n which_o s._n augustine_n show_v large_o of_o the_o arrian_n 6._o and_o donatist_n and_o staphilus_n lyndanus_n and_o other_o writer_n of_o our_o time_n do_v show_v the_o same_o of_o luther_n sect_n divide_v into_o so_o many_o sect_n &_o branch_n in_o so_o few_o year_n as_o all_o the_o world_n see_v and_o stanislaus_n rescius_fw-la a_o learned_a man_n of_o polonian_a in_o his_o late_a book_n of_o the_o atheisine_n of_o haeretik_n show_v out_o of_o the_o write_n of_o protestant_n themselves_o that_o in_o the_o year_n 1596._o when_o he_o write_v his_o book_n which_o be_v but_o 4._o year_n pass_v that_o there_o be_v now_o extant_a in_o the_o world_n 270._o different_a sect_n all_o rise_v out_o of_o luther_n from_o the_o year_n 1517._o wherein_o luther_n begin_v all_o which_o he_o declare_v at_o length_n &_o the_o reason_n of_o this_o so_o great_a multiplication_n be_v give_v by_o tertullian_n in_o his_o book_n of_o prescription_n against_o heretic_n above_o 1400._o ibid._n year_n past_a say_v that_o for_o so_o much_o as_o every_o scholar_n of_o a_o sectary_n know_v that_o his_o master_n invent_v his_o opinion_n of_o his_o own_o head_n he_o will_v invent_v also_o something_o himself_o thereby_o to_o show_v that_o his_o wit_n be_v not_o inferior_a to_o that_o of_o his_o master_n and_o hereby_o they_o come_v to_o such_o confusion_n in_o the_o end_n that_o one_o destroy_v the_o other_o whereof_o luther_n himself_o be_v a_o good_a witness_n when_o he_o write_v these_o word_n 5._o true_o god_n do_v not_o fight_v by_o any_o other_o mean_n with_o heretic_n then_o by_o permittinge_n among_o they_o a_o certain_a seditious_a spirit_n of_o dissension_n by_o which_o their_o overthrow_n also_o and_o perdition_n do_v ensue_v so_o he_o who_o be_v a_o witness_n in_o this_o cause_n without_o exception_n as_o you_o know_v the_o second_o reproach_n follow_v sectarye_n be_v contradiction_n to_o themselves_o sect_n in_o their_o own_o write_n and_o say_n and_o shameful_a inconstancy_n in_o their_o doctrine_n the_o reason_n whereof_o be_v for_o that_o the_o say_a doctrine_n consystinge_v only_o in_o the_o invention_n judgement_n and_o memory_n of_o the_o sectarye_n himself_o that_o invent_v it_o or_o choose_v to_o follow_v it_o though_o invent_v by_o another_o for_o whatsoever_o they_o allege_v of_o scripture_n or_o other_o antiquity_n must_v depend_v of_o their_o own_o new_a invent_a interpretation_n of_o necessity_n it_o must_v follow_v that_o as_o their_o talent_n and_o wit_n discourse_n or_o memory_n do_v alter_v change_n or_o fail_v in_o time_n so_o must_v the_o doctrine_n also_o thereof_o dependinge_v be_v alter_v and_o so_o either_o forget_v what_o they_o say_v in_o one_o time_n or_o place_n or_o matter_n or_o have_v alter_v their_o judgement_n or_o opinion_n upon_o some_o further_a reason_n which_o then_o they_o see_v not_o they_o must_v needs_o come_v to_o say_v contrary_a to_o that_o they_o do_v before_o in_o which_o kind_n of_o contradiction_n some_o thousand_o have_v be_v note_v by_o learned_a man_n in_o luther_n himself_o lutheri_fw-la &_o no_o marvel_n see_v he_o be_v the_o first_o of_o that_o sect_n that_o invent_v new_a opinion_n daily_o and_o the_o same_o be_v observe_v in_o caluyns_n write_n by_o westphalus_n hesshusius_fw-la and_o other_o lutheran_n protestant_n that_o write_v against_o he_o the_o three_o confusion_n that_o follow_v common_o upon_o heresy_n heresy_n be_v coldness_n &_o doubtfulness_n in_o religion_n and_o at_o length_n also_o plain_a atheism_n and_o contempt_n and_o thereupon_o dissolution_n of_o life_n neglect_v of_o conscience_n and_o other_o suitable_a effect_n which_o therefore_o among_o heretic_n principal_o do_v ensue_v for_o that_o heresy_n call_n into_o question_n and_o shake_v the_o very_a pillar_n and_o strong_a mean_n whereby_o man_n remain_v assure_v before_o of_o their_o faith_n to_o wit_n the_o number_n quality_n and_o right_o understand_v of_o holy_a scripture_n tradition_n of_o the_o church_n from_o who_o we_o receive_v they_o the_o verity_n of_o ecclesiastical_a story_n christian_a miracle_n authority_n of_o general_a counsel_n credit_n of_o ancient_a father_n and_o the_o like_a and_o breakinge_v down_o beside_o the_o hedge_n and_o wall_n that_o be_v wont_a to_o be_v bulwark_n to_o good_a life_n as_o confession_n restitution_n satisfaction_n fastinge_v vowinge_v and_o other_o help_n of_o that_o quality_n this_o i_o say_v be_v once_o do_v which_o be_v the_o proper_a work_n of_o heresy_n a_o man_n run_v natural_o into_o doubt_n &_o contempt_n of_o all_o and_o consequent_o lose_v by_o little_a and_o little_a both_o fear_n and_o shame_n give_v himself_o over_o easy_o to_o all_o licentious_a liberty_n and_o sensuality_n of_o life_n which_o the_o apostle_n call_v desperation_n 1._o and_o thus_o much_o of_o the_o cause_n of_o this_o three_o reproach_n for_o as_o for_o the_o effect_n it_o self_n to_o wit_n that_o these_o fruit_n have_v follow_v in_o the_o world_n since_o heresy_n come_v in_o much_o more_o than_o ever_o before_o i_o can_v allege_v both_o luther_n himself_o december_n and_o erasmus_fw-la roterodavius_fw-la and_o other_o author_n of_o most_o credit_n with_o protestant_n testifyinge_v of_o their_o day_n and_o as_o for_o england_n it_o self_n the_o present_a knowledge_n &_o experience_n of_o thousand_o will_v bear_v i_o witness_v wherefore_o i_o mean_v to_o prosecute_v no_o further_o these_o first_o 3._o reproach_n follow_v heresy_n and_o heretic_n to_o wittâ—_n division_n among_o themselves_o contradiction_n to_o themselves_o and_o dissolution_n of_o life_n or_o propension_n to_o atheism_n though_o for_o the_o reader_n full_a instruction_n therein_o if_o he_o understand_v the_o latin_a tongue_n i_o must_v needs_o give_v he_o notice_n of_o two_o famous_a book_n write_v of_o late_a of_o that_o argument_n â—ookes_n by_o two_o excellent_a learned_a man_n of_o our_o time_n &_o take_v out_o of_o the_o work_n themselves_o of_o all_o the_o sectarye_n of_o this_o age_n the_o one_o be_v of_o our_o contreyman_n master_n william_n reynolds_n caluinoâ—turcismus_n once_o fellow_n of_o new-colledg_a in_o oxford_n &_o a_o protestant_a preacher_n entitle_v caluinoâ—_n turcismus_fw-la that_o be_v of_o
proof_n of_o this_o he_o will_v needs_o cite_v diverse_a other_o place_n out_o of_o durand_n where_o he_o say_v that_o if_o god_n will_v he_o can_v have_v make_v his_o body_n to_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n together_o with_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n without_o transubstantiation_n and_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v temerity_n to_o hold_v the_o contrary_n but_o the_o bishop_n refute_v this_o present_o as_o impertinent_a matter_n and_o nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n to_o help_v his_o cause_n for_o albeit_o durand_n do_v hold_v that_o god_n out_o of_o his_o omnipotency_n may_v have_v appoint_v it_o so_o if_o he_o will_v that_o both_o substance_n to_o wit_n both_o of_o his_o body_n &_o bread_n shall_v have_v be_v together_o yet_o do_v he_o it_o not_o so_o the_o factâ—_n as_o durand_n prove_v out_o of_o his_o own_o word_n when_o he_o say_v of_o bread_n this_o be_v my_o body_n etc._n etc._n 19_o it_o be_v note_v also_o that_o in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o first_o text_n allege_v by_o plessis_n out_o of_o durand_n the_o word_n in_o vulgar_a be_v therefore_o the_o first_o way_n be_v to_o be_v follow_v whereas_o the_o true_a word_n of_o durand_n in_o latyn_n be_v once_o ergo_fw-la ut_fw-la videtur_fw-la primum_fw-la est_fw-la eligendum_fw-la therefore_o as_o it_o seem_v this_o first_o way_n be_v rather_o to_o be_v choose_v so_o as_o plessis_n of_o purpose_n leave_v out_o the_o word_n ut_fw-la videtur_fw-la that_o it_o may_v not_o seem_v as_o it_o be_v a_o objection_n but_o rather_o a_o resolution_n which_o be_v another_o trick_n of_o unfaithful_a dealing_v well_o then_o after_o all_o text_n read_v at_o large_a and_o examine_v by_o the_o judge_n when_o plessis_n will_v have_v cavilled_a yet_o further_o &_o draw_v out_o the_o time_n as_o he_o do_v in_o the_o former_a place_n of_o scotus_n the_o b._n desire_v the_o k._n that_o the_o law_n of_o this_o trial_n may_v be_v observe_v and_o sentence_n give_v upon_o the_o matter_n it_o self_n already_o propose_v without_o further_a excursion_n whereupon_o the_o king_n will_v the_o deputye_n to_o give_v sentence_n which_o they_o do_v by_o the_o chancellor_n after_o he_o have_v ask_v every_o man_n voice_n in_o particular_a and_o the_o sentence_n be_v in_o these_o word_n in_o french_a place_n que_fw-fr le_fw-fr sieur_n de_fw-fr plessis_n avoit_v pris_fw-fr la_fw-fr objection_n pour_fw-fr la_fw-fr resolution_n that_o the_o l._n plessis_n have_v take_v the_o objection_n in_o scotus_n and_o durand_n for_o the_o resolution_n and_o this_o be_v the_o end_n of_o this_o second_o trial_n with_o shame_n enough_o you_o may_v imagine_v to_o he_o that_o profess_v more_o learning_n then_o to_o be_v deceive_v in_o such_o a_o matter_n if_o he_o have_v not_o list_v to_o have_v be_v both_o deceive_v and_o to_o deceive_v the_o three_o place_n examine_v out_o of_o s._n chrysostome_n about_o prayer_n to_o saint_n after_o the_o former_a two_o place_n of_o scotus_n and_o durand_n dispach_v 52._o the_o three_o choose_v by_o monsieur_n plessis_n to_o be_v defend_v be_v out_o of_o s._n chrysostome_n in_o his_o homily_n upon_o the_o first_o of_o saint_n paul_n epistle_n to_o the_o thessalonian_n where_o handle_v those_o word_n of_o jeremy_n the_o prophet_n 15._o if_o moses_n and_o samuel_n stand_v before_o i_o my_o affection_n shall_v not_o be_v unto_o this_o people_n etc._n etc._n plessis_n say_v that_o whereas_o the_o papist_n do_v allege_v this_o say_v of_o the_o prophett_n to_o prove_v prayer_n unto_o saint_n s._n chrysostome_n draw_v a_o quite_o contrary_a conclusion_n from_o thence_o his_o word_n be_v these_o pag._n 537._o of_o his_o book_n against_o the_o mass_n s._n chrysostome_n do_v draw_v from_o these_o word_n of_o the_o prophett_n a_o quite_o contrary_a conclusion_n thessaly_n to_o wit_n that_o we_o must_v not_o rest_v ourselves_o upon_o the_o prey_n of_o saint_n but_o must_v work_v our_o salvation_n as_o s._n peter_n say_v in_o fear_n and_o tremble_a etc._n etc._n out_o of_o which_o allegation_n of_o s._n chrysostome_n the_o bishop_n do_v show_v and_o plain_o declare_v that_o plessis_n have_v deprave_a s._n chrysostom_n meaning_n for_o that_o he_o do_v not_o infer_v any_o such_o conclusion_n at_o all_o against_o prayer_n to_o saint_n but_o manifest_o the_o contrary_a in_o these_o word_n in_o the_o very_a same_o place_n say_v for_o his_o conclusion_n after_o a_o long_a discourse_n these_o thing_n then_o be_v so_o as_o we_o have_v show_v we_o must_v neither_o neglect_v the_o prayer_n of_o saint_n for_o we_o ibid._n nor_o yet_o put_v all_o our_o hope_n therein_o for_o that_o the_o one_o will_v deprive_v we_o of_o great_a succour_n the_o other_o will_v make_v we_o idle_a and_o neglect_v wherefore_o we_o must_v pray_v to_o they_o to_o make_v intercession_n and_o hold_v up_o their_o hand_n for_o we_o and_o we_o of_o our_o part_n must_v live_v virtuous_o these_o be_v the_o word_n of_o s._n chrysostome_n true_o allege_v which_o do_v evident_o show_v that_o plessis_n do_v notorious_o corrupt_v both_o s._n chrysostome_n his_o word_n and_o meaning_n in_o his_o foresaid_a allegation_n plessis_n his_o word_n in_o that_o he_o affirm_v s._n chrysostome_n to_o say_v that_o we_o must_v not_o rest_v ourselves_o upon_o the_o prayer_n of_o saint_n which_o he_o do_v not_o say_v but_o that_o we_o must_v not_o put_v all_o our_o hope_n therein_o second_o he_o leave_v out_o those_o word_n of_o s._n chrysostome_n where_o he_o exhort_v we_o to_o pray_v unto_o saint_n and_o to_o live_v virtuous_o he_o corrupt_v also_o s._n chrysostom_n meaning_n for_o that_o he_o enforce_v upon_o he_o the_o quite_o contrary_a conclusion_n to_o that_o which_o he_o make_v to_o wit_n that_o we_o must_v not_o pray_v to_o saint_n at_o all_o whereas_o s._n chrysostome_n say_v we_o ought_v to_o pray_v to_o saint_n &_o not_o to_o deprive_v ourselves_o of_o so_o great_a a_o succour_n here_o plessis_n be_v in_o a_o great_a bracke_n again_o &_o can_v not_o tell_v which_o way_n to_o wind_n himself_o out_o yet_o two_o leap_v he_o give_v but_o neither_o do_v serve_v his_o turn_n brack_n the_o first_o be_v by_o say_v that_o his_o intention_n be_v not_o to_o set_v down_o saint_n chrysostom_n word_n formal_o as_o they_o lie_v in_o the_o text_n for_o that_o his_o discourse_n be_v long_o and_o endure_v for_o diverse_a page_n but_o only_o to_o put_v down_o the_o some_o thereof_o but_o this_o be_v beat_v back_o by_o the_o b._n ask_v he_o first_o why_o then_o he_o set_v down_o those_o word_n in_o a_o different_a letter_n as_o proper_a word_n of_o s._n chrysostome_n second_o why_o he_o leave_v out_o saint_n chrysostom_n true_a word_n before_o recite_v and_o put_v in_o other_o of_o his_o own_o of_o a_o contrary_a sense_n three_o why_o he_o change_v &_o falsifyed_a saint_n chrysostom_n whole_a meaning_n drift_n and_o conclusion_n as_o have_v be_v show_v and_o final_o he_o tell_v he_o that_o albeit_o s._n chrysostom_n discourse_n be_v large_a in_o expound_v the_o foresaid_a verse_n of_o jeremy_n the_o prophett_n yet_o be_v his_o conclusion_n about_o pray_v to_o saint_n very_o short_a and_o utter_v in_o no_o more_o word_n than_o before_o be_v set_v down_o so_o as_o this_o help_v he_o nothing_o his_o second_o skip_v therefore_o be_v to_o say_v that_o s._n chrysostome_n in_o this_o place_n speak_v of_o prayinge_v to_o live_v saint_n only_o and_o not_o to_o dead_a saint_n but_o the_o bishop_n reply_v that_o albeit_o this_o be_v true_a as_o it_o appear_v evident_o to_o be_v false_a by_o the_o example_n of_o david_n and_o job_n who_o saint_n chrysostome_n there_o name_v yet_o that_o this_o relieve_v he_o and_o his_o falsehood_n nothing_o at_o all_o for_o if_o he_o speak_v of_o live_a saint_n only_o then_o can_v not_o plessis_n draw_v a_o argument_n from_o that_o his_o speech_n against_o the_o catholic_a use_n of_o pray_v to_o saint_n desceased_a he_o and_o if_o he_o speak_v of_o dead_a saint_n or_o both_o of_o dead_a and_o live_a then_o do_v he_o confirm_v the_o catholic_a use_n &_o not_o impugn_v the_o same_o as_o plessis_n will_v have_v make_v his_o reader_n believe_v and_o howsoever_o it_o be_v the_o bishop_n urge_v that_o he_o be_v here_o convince_v of_o diverse_a falsehood_n and_o so_o require_v sentence_n whereupon_o the_o judge_n command_v two_o several_a greek_a text_n of_o s._n john_n chrysostome_n to_o be_v bring_v of_o diverse_a impression_n the_o one_o at_o heidelberge_n the_o other_o at_o verona_n &_o conferringe_a they_o together_o find_v the_o father_n word_n to_o be_v just_a as_o before_o they_o have_v be_v set_v down_o by_o we_o and_o falsify_v by_o plessis_n in_o his_o book_n and_o therefore_o after_o every_o man_n opinion_n require_v &_o confer_v among_o themselves_o the_o chancellor_n pronounce_v in_o all_o the_o deputye_n name_n in_o these_o word_n que_fw-fr le_fw-fr siâ—ur_fw-fr du_fw-fr plessis_n avoit_v obmis_fw-fr
of_o the_o same_o code_n or_o else_o he_o be_v a_o very_a superficial_a fellow_n and_o if_o he_o see_v it_o and_o yet_o allege_v it_o as_o he_o do_v his_o falsehood_n be_v intolerable_a but_o he_o persist_v in_o denial_n that_o he_o be_v bind_v to_o look_v the_o law_n itself_o in_o the_o code_n but_o that_o it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o follow_v crinitus_n his_o allegation_n thereof_o the_o judge_n for_o compassion_n as_o it_o seem_v after_o consultation_n among_o themselves_o give_v this_o sentence_n que_fw-fr il_fw-fr avoit_v veritablement_n allegué_fw-fr crinitus_n mais_fw-fr que_fw-fr crinitus_n â—'estoit_fw-fr abusé_fw-fr that_o mounseur_fw-fr plessis_n have_v true_o allege_v crinitus_n but_o that_o crinitus_n be_v abuse_v which_o have_v be_v some_o excuse_n if_o plessis_n have_v be_v a_o simple_a young_a scholar_n but_o be_v the_o man_n he_o be_v and_o take_v himself_o to_o be_v it_o be_v hard_o to_o say_v where_o the_o abuse_n be_v great_a either_o in_o he_o or_o crinitus_n for_o so_o much_o as_o in_o his_o text_n he_o allege_v not_o crinitus_n but_o the_o emperor_n themselves_o and_o insult_v thereby_o over_o catholic_n as_o you_o have_v hear_v though_o in_o his_o margin_n he_o quote_v crinitus_n which_o be_v little_a to_o the_o purpose_n know_v that_o he_o lie_v as_o must_v be_v presume_v that_o he_o do_v and_o can_v well_o be_v avoid_v the_o eight_o place_n examine_v out_o of_o s._n bernard_n about_o honour_v our_o lady_n the_o l._n plessis_n be_v desirous_a to_o make_v a_o flourish_n against_o catholic_n for_o geve_v to_o much_o honour_n as_o he_o say_v to_o our_o lady_n he_o allege_v a_o sentence_n out_o of_o s._n bernard_n in_o the_o 604._o page_n of_o his_o book_n in_o these_o word_n 83._o s._n bernard_n say_v he_o write_v of_o the_o virgin_n herself_o in_o his_o 174._o epistle_n that_o she_o have_v no_o need_n of_o false_a honour_n for_o so_o much_o as_o she_o be_v full_a of_o true_a and_o this_o be_v not_o to_o honour_v she_o but_o to_o take_v away_o her_o honour_n the_o feast_n of_o her_o conception_n be_v not_o well_o invent_v so_o he_o in_o which_o word_n the_o b._n accuse_v plessis_n to_o have_v use_v as_o great_a falsehood_n as_o in_o the_o former_a passage_n for_o that_o he_o have_v guilful_o patch_v together_o two_o different_a sentence_n of_o that_o epistle_n write_v in_o several_a place_n to_o make_v one_o to_o his_o purpose_n after_o the_o fashion_n of_o centons_n of_o homer_n virgil_n and_o other_o poet_n and_o have_v so_o recite_v they_o as_o they_o may_v seem_v but_o one_o and_o moreover_o have_v cut_n of_o the_o sentence_n that_o go_v between_o they_o &_o be_v immediate_o annex_v to_o the_o former_a &_o contain_v the_o decision_n of_o the_o whole_a question_n to_o wit_n inventrix_fw-la of_o grace_n plessis_n mediatrix_fw-la of_o salvation_n etc._n etc._n for_o better_a understanding_n whereof_o must_v be_v note_v that_o mensieur_n plessis_n a_o little_a before_o have_v accuse_v s._n anselm_n of_o impiety_n for_o call_v the_o bless_a virgin_n inuentricem_fw-la gratiae_fw-la mediatricem_fw-la salutis_fw-la restauratricem_fw-la saeculorum_fw-la say_v that_o these_o praise_n and_o honour_n be_v false_a and_o immoderate_a for_o proof_n whereof_o he_o allege_v saint_n bernard_n as_o though_o he_o have_v be_v of_o a_o contrary_a opinion_n to_o anselmus_n and_o to_o the_o catholic_n of_o these_o day_n in_o that_o he_o disallow_v false_a honour_n give_v to_o our_o lady_n for_o which_o he_o cite_v the_o passage_n before_o mention_v bernard_n make_v of_o 2._o several_a sentence_n tie_v together_o &_o cut_v out_o from_o the_o middle_n thereof_o these_o word_n of_o s._n bernard_n magnifica_fw-la gratiae_fw-la inventricem_fw-la mediatricem_fw-la salutis_fw-la restauratricem_fw-la saeculorum_fw-la etc._n etc._n do_v thou_o magnify_v this_o inventrix_fw-la of_o grace_n this_o mediatrix_fw-la of_o salvation_n and_o restorer_n of_o the_o world_n etc._n etc._n which_o be_v the_o very_a same_o word_n that_o anselmus_n do_v use_v before_o he_o and_o for_o reprove_v whereof_o s._n bernard_n be_v allege_v so_o as_o two_o or_o 3._o falsehood_n be_v urge_v out_o of_o this_o place_n against_o he_o first_o that_o of_o two_o sentence_n be_v guilful_o make_v one_o second_o that_o the_o principal_a clause_n be_v leave_v out_o of_o purpose_n and_o three_o that_o s._n bernard_n be_v allege_v to_o overthrow_v that_o which_o express_o he_o confirm_v to_o the_o first_o plessis_n answer_v that_o in_o leave_v out_o that_o sentence_n he_o do_v no_o more_o than_o the_o apostle_n do_v who_o allege_v some_o time_n several_a sentence_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n together_o as_o one_o text_n b._n but_o the_o bishop_n reply_v that_o the_o apostle_n may_v do_v it_o for_o that_o they_o have_v the_o self_n same_o spirit_n which_o the_o writer_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n have_v and_o therefore_o can_v not_o go_v from_o their_o true_a meaning_n but_o that_o we_o shall_v never_o find_v the_o apostle_n to_o allege_v two_o place_n of_o scripture_n contrary_n to_o the_o writer_n mind_n and_o to_o leave_v out_o in_o the_o midst_n that_o which_o make_v most_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o declare_v their_o meaning_n as_o plessis_n have_v do_v here_o in_o s._n bernard_n to_o the_o second_o &_o three_o point_n about_o clippinge_v of_o the_o sentence_n in_o the_o middle_n and_o alleaginge_v s._n bernard_n against_o his_o own_o meaning_n plessis_n endeavour_v to_o make_v certain_a answer_n &_o to_o show_v that_o the_o sentence_n which_o he_o have_v leave_v out_o make_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n which_o he_o have_v in_o hand_n which_o the_o bishop_n grant_v if_o his_o purpose_n be_v to_o deceive_v his_o reader_n as_o no_o doubt_n but_o it_o be_v but_o otherwise_o if_o he_o have_v mean_v truth_n it_o must_v needs_o be_v much_o to_o the_o purpose_n to_o put_v it_o in_o for_o that_o it_o overthrow_v direct_o as_o you_o see_v all_o that_o which_o plessis_n will_v have_v prove_v by_o s._n bernard_n authority_n against_o s._n anselm_n and_o final_o the_o bishop_n after_o diverse_a other_o cavil_n answer_v return_v to_o the_o first_o matter_n again_o and_o to_o affirm_v as_o at_o the_o beginning_n that_o monsieur_n plessis_n have_v not_o deal_v true_o and_o sincere_o in_o this_o allegation_n of_o saint_n bernard_n but_o that_o he_o shall_v have_v allege_v the_o sentence_n several_o as_o they_o lie_v in_o the_o book_n and_o not_o have_v leave_v out_o the_o principal_a clause_n that_o go_v between_o they_o if_o he_o have_v deal_v true_o wherefore_o he_o desyringe_n judgement_n upon_o this_o passage_n plessis_n the_o act_n do_v set_v it_o down_o in_o these_o word_n mounseur_fw-fr le_fw-fr chancely_o avec_fw-la l'aduis_fw-la des_fw-fr deputés_fw-fr prononâ—a_fw-fr qu'il_fw-fr eust_fw-fr esté_fw-fr bon_fw-fr que_fw-fr il_fw-fr eust_fw-fr fait_fw-fr 96._o the_o l._n chancellor_n with_o the_o advice_n of_o the_o deputye_n do_v pronounce_v that_o it_o have_v be_v good_a that_o mounseur_fw-fr plessis_n have_v do_v so_o as_o the_o bishop_n of_o eureux_fw-fr require_v which_o be_v as_o much_o to_o say_v that_o in_o not_o do_v so_o he_o behave_v himself_o but_o bad_o which_o be_v a_o check_n of_o no_o small_a moment_n in_o such_o a_o matter_n the_o nine_o place_n examine_v out_o of_o theodorete_n about_o image_n the_o last_o place_n that_o be_v try_v in_o this_o first_o day_n conference_n be_v out_o of_o theodorete_n upon_o the_o 113._o psalm_n cite_v by_o mounseur_fw-fr plessis_n in_o the_o 118._o page_n of_o his_o book_n against_o the_o use_n of_o image_n in_o these_o word_n god_n make_v what_o he_o please_v but_o image_n be_v such_o as_o please_v man_n to_o make_v they_o they_o have_v the_o place_n or_o habitation_n of_o sense_n but_o have_v no_o sense_n indeed_o and_o in_o this_o much_o less_o they_o fly_v and_o flea_n and_o such_o other_o vermin_n and_o it_o be_v just_a that_o all_o that_o adore_v they_o do_v lose_v both_o reason_n and_o sense_n and_o be_v like_a unto_o they_o here_o the_o bishop_n object_v two_o manifest_a and_o wilful_a falsification_n 92._o first_o for_o that_o he_o have_v against_o the_o express_a meaning_n of_o theodorete_n translate_v the_o greek_a word_n idol_n for_o image_n which_o theodorete_n do_v clear_o distinguish_v and_o second_o for_o that_o he_o cut_v of_o a_o plain_a clause_n in_o the_o midst_n whereby_o the_o author_n of_o purpose_n do_v expound_v himself_o to_o wit_n these_o word_n adore_v by_o pagan_n and_o adore_v for_o god_n so_o as_o this_o declare_v evident_o that_o he_o have_v no_o true_a meaning_n to_o this_o plessis_n answer_v that_o as_o for_o the_o word_n idol_n and_o image_n they_o be_v all_o one_o image_n which_o he_o say_v he_o can_v show_v both_o out_o of_o scripture_n and_o father_n the_o other_o reply_v that_o albeit_o accord_v to_o their_o etymologye_n in_o grammar_n the_o greek_a word_n eicoon_n and_o eidoolon_n do_v sometime_o signify_v the_o same_o and_o
s._n augustine_n be_v present_a and_o upon_o both_o the_o say_a counsel_n earnest_a request_n the_o same_o be_v accurse_v also_o by_o pope_n innocentius_n the_o first_o as_o testify_v s._n augustine_n epist_n 90._o 92._o &_o 93._o and_o this_o be_v the_o first_o shift_n second_o of_o all_o the_o father_n that_o speak_v of_o this_o matter_n against_o he_o and_o s._n augustine_n by_o name_n in_o almost_o infinite_a place_n he_o make_v his_o adversary_n to_o allege_v only_o one_o text_n out_o of_o the_o say_a father_n and_o we_o must_v believe_v he_o for_o that_o we_o have_v not_o his_o adversaries_n treatise_n s._n augustine_n place_n be_v lib._n 3._o de_fw-la anima_fw-la cap._n 9_o 9_o but_o cite_v not_o his_o word_n yet_o answer_v they_o thus_o to_o s._n augustine_n i_o answer_v that_o he_o speak_v of_o such_o as_o die_v in_o original_a sin_n and_o seem_v to_o contemn_v baptism_n father_n this_o be_v the_o most_o blockish_a refuge_n that_o possible_o can_v be_v imagine_v for_o first_o all_o man_n before_o baptism_n die_v in_o original_a sin_n and_o second_o s._n austen_n speak_v of_o infant_n that_o have_v not_o capacity_n to_o contemn_v baptism_n his_o word_n be_v these_o noli_fw-la credere_fw-la noli_fw-la dicere_fw-la noli_fw-la docere_fw-la etc._n etc._n do_v not_o thou_o believe_v do_v thou_o not_o say_v do_v thou_o not_o teach_v if_o thou_o will_v be_v a_o catholic_a that_o infant_n prevent_v by_o death_n before_o they_o be_v baptize_v can_v come_v to_o receive_v pardon_n of_o original_a sin_n behold_v then_o the_o forehead_n of_o sutcliffe_n that_o will_v wipe_v of_o both_o this_o and_o infinite_a place_n of_o s._n augustine_n more_o express_o avouchinge_v the_o same_o doctrine_n by_o such_o a_o senseless_a sleight_n damnari_fw-la animasâ—_n say_v he_o write_v to_o s._n hierome_n â—_o hieron_n si_fw-mi sine_fw-la baptismo_fw-la de_fw-la corpore_fw-la exierint_fw-la &_o sancta_fw-la scriptura_fw-la &_o sancta_fw-la testis_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la that_o the_o soul_n be_v damn_v that_o pass_v out_o of_o this_o world_n without_o baptism_n both_o holy_a scripture_n and_o holy_a church_n be_v witness_v now_o will_v i_o demand_v of_o sutcliffe_n whether_o ever_o he_o read_v these_o place_n or_o not_o if_o he_o do_v not_o then_o must_v he_o confess_v himself_o to_o be_v ignorant_a or_o wilful_a in_o that_o he_o will_v answer_v s._n augustine_n without_o look_v upon_o he_o if_o he_o do_v and_o answer_v as_o he_o do_v then_o be_v he_o both_o malicious_a and_o shameless_a but_o now_o three_o to_o the_o authority_n of_o their_o communion-booke_n bring_v against_o he_o by_o e._n o._n say_v that_o none_o be_v save_v shift_n that_o be_v not_o regenerate_v by_o baptism_n he_o answer_v thus_o it_o be_v impious_a to_o tie_v god_n grace_n to_o sacrament_n etc._n etc._n we_o exclude_v not_o extraordinary_a course_n wherein_o first_o as_o you_o see_v he_o reject_v plain_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o say_a communion-booke_n that_o tie_v salvation_n to_o regeneration_n by_o baptism_n &_o second_o you_o must_v remember_v that_o the_o question_n whether_o this_o doctrine_n of_o sutcliffe_n of_o extraordinary_a course_n and_o savinge_v man_n without_o baptism_n be_v catholic_a &_o conform_v to_o the_o universal_a doctrine_n of_o ancient_a father_n or_o no_o whereof_o he_o speak_v not_o one_o word_n nor_o allege_v any_o one_o testimony_n to_o prove_v his_o opinion_n catholic_a that_o be_v to_o say_v general_a and_o universal_a but_o only_o say_v we_o exclude_v not_o extroordinary_a course_n and_o tell_v we_o not_o who_o these_o we_o be_v for_o that_o it_o can_v be_v the_o church_n of_o england_n which_o set_v forth_o the_o say_a communion_n book_n and_o consequent_o have_v neither_o the_o ancient_a church_n nor_o our_o church_n at_o this_o day_n nor_o the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o stand_v with_o he_o i_o will_v glad_o know_v how_o he_o will_v make_v his_o opinion_n catholic_a that_o be_v universal_a and_o thus_o much_o of_o the_o three_o shift_n the_o four_o be_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o his_o own_o word_n allege_v against_o he_o by_o e._n o._n whereunto_o he_o answer_v thus_o cozenage_n i_o do_v confess_v that_o infant_n die_v in_o original_a sin_n be_v damn_v to_o hell_n fire_n but_o i_o hope_v no_o man_n will_v say_v that_o all_o that_o die_v before_o baptism_n albeit_o they_o much_o desire_v it_o and_o believe_v in_o christ_n jesus_n die_v in_o original_a sin_n o_o slippery_a evasion_n our_o question_n here_o be_v sir_n matthew_n of_o infant_n that_o can_v desire_v baptism_n for_o as_o for_o other_o that_o be_v of_o age_n and_o do_v desire_v it_o they_o may_v be_v save_v by_o baptism_n in_o desire_n as_o before_o be_v grant_v again_o your_o immediate_a word_n before_o in_o this_o very_a sentence_n do_v speak_v of_o infant_n for_o you_o say_v i_o do_v confess_v that_o infant_n be_v damn_v to_o hell_n fire_n and_o what_o a_o fellow_n be_v you_o then_o which_o say_v in_o the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o same_o sentence_n albeit_o they_o much_o desire_v it_o and_o believe_v in_o christ_n jesus_n three_o you_o say_v a_o little_a before_o that_o want_n of_o baptism_n do_v soud_v infant_n to_o hell_n and_o now_o you_o say_v that_o infant_n die_v in_o original_a sin_n be_v damn_v to_o hell_n fire_n which_o though_o in_o our_o sense_n be_v all_o one_o that_o hold_v infant_n die_v without_o baptism_n do_v die_v in_o original_a sin_n yet_o in_o your_o sense_n that_o hold_v that_o infant_n may_v die_v before_o baptism_n &_o yet_o free_v from_o original_a sin_n be_v altogether_o different_a &_o consequent_o a_o mere_a consenage_n so_o to_o alter_v your_o word_n for_o deceive_a your_o reader_n but_o now_o we_o come_v to_o the_o last_o shift_a answer_n of_o all_o which_o be_v such_o and_o so_o unintelligible_a as_o no_o man_n read_v &_o consider_v the_o same_o can_v otherwise_o think_v but_o that_o the_o author_n be_v either_o distemper_v or_o bereave_v of_o his_o sense_n when_o he_o frame_v it_o i_o shall_v relate_v it_o in_o his_o own_o word_n &_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_v of_o it_o place_n he_o conclude_v final_o say_v he_o to_o wit_n e._n o._n that_o see_v the_o want_n of_o baptism_n do_v send_v infant_n to_o hell_n these_o be_v sutcliffes_n own_o word_n before_o recite_v ergo_fw-la baptism_n be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o his_o consequent_a be_v weak_a and_o of_o no_o value_n 13._o for_o many_o thy_fw-mi for_o want_n of_o knowledge_n and_o for_o want_v of_o small_a matter_n and_o not_o only_o of_o baptism_n and_o yet_o god_n be_v not_o necessary_o tie_v to_o save_v none_o but_o such_o as_o be_v baptize_v sick_a man_n dody_a for_o want_v of_o physic_n and_o yet_o be_v not_o physic_n absolute_o necessary_a in_o this_o place_n therefore_o the_o detector_n wander_v out_o of_o his_o way_n &_o yet_o effect_v nothing_o thus_o he_o and_o heerwith_o end_v his_o whole_a defence_n upon_o this_o second_o charge_n give_v he_o by_o e._n o._n and_o sure_o if_o he_o write_v it_o not_o more_o than_o half_a a_o sliepe_a or_o when_o he_o be_v great_o distract_v in_o other_o matter_n i_o know_v not_o what_o to_o think_v or_o say_v of_o it_o many_o say_v he_o die_v for_o want_v of_o knowledge_n &_o for_o want_n of_o small_a matter_n &_o not_o only_o of_o baptism_n either_o he_o mean_v here_o of_o eternal_a or_o temporal_a death_n if_o of_o eternal_a how_o can_v it_o be_v cause_v by_o the_o want_n of_o small_a matter_n if_o of_o temporal_a how_o be_v it_o cause_v by_o want_n of_o knowledge_n or_o how_o agree_v it_o with_o the_o death_n cause_v by_o want_n of_o baptism_n which_o be_v eternal_a how_o agree_v it_o also_o with_o sendinge_v to_o hell_n which_o be_v to_o endure_v everlasting_o again_o if_o a_o man_n die_v precise_o or_o only_o for_o want_v of_o physic_n than_o be_v physic_n absolute_o necessary_a to_o save_v that_o man_n life_n otherways_o he_o do_v not_o die_v absolute_o for_o want_n of_o physic_n &_o so_o whereas_o he_o accuse_v the_o detector_n for_o wandringe_v out_o of_o the_o way_n and_o effectinge_v nothing_o this_o man_n reel_v up_o and_o down_o in_o the_o way_n and_o effect_v his_o own_o disgrace_n and_o shame_n with_o all_o reader_n and_o looker_n on_o and_o now_o by_o the_o examination_n of_o these_o 2._o place_n you_o may_v see_v the_o fashion_n of_o this_o man_n answer_v and_o how_o easy_a a_o matter_n it_o be_v and_o may_v be_v for_o any_o man_n to_o take_v upon_o he_o the_o answer_v of_o all_o adversaries_n whatsoever_o in_o this_o manner_n and_o by_o these_o two_o example_n you_o may_v guess_v at_o all_o the_o rest_n and_o albeit_o i_o will_v glad_o end_v here_o have_v be_v long_a than_o i_o purpose_v yet_o can_v i_o not_o without_o examine_v one_o place_n more_o which_o be_v the_o four_o in_o order_n concern_v prayer_n &_o