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A11445	The supper of our Lord set foorth according to the truth of the Gospell and Catholike faith. By Nicolas Saunder, Doctor of Diuinitie. With a confutation of such false doctrine as the Apologie of the Churche of England, M. Nowels chalenge, or M. Iuels Replie haue vttered, touching the reall presence of Christe in the Sacrament; Supper of our Lord set foorth in six bookes	Sander, Nicholas, 1530?-1581.	1566 (1566)	STC 21695; ESTC S116428	661,473	882

not so much with their faultes as with the office it selfe imputing the vices of euill men to a most holy vocation and ministerie against the commaundement of Christ. They withdrew vniustly their tithes and oblations they enuied the riches of the clergy and in euery alehouse d●…couered the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of their spirituall fathers When these great enormities were comme to the highest so that the cockle began to ouergrow and hide the good corne and now tyme required that iudgement should beginne at the house of God and those that in dede were good and faithfull should be disseuered from the euill Martin Luther a Frier of S. Augustines order in Saxonic was permitted like a proud ●…ing of Babylon to comme out of the north and to make spirituall bataile to the holy Citie of Hierusalem because her Citezens did not worship Christ in such puritie of good life as they ought to haue done Whereby it came to light who were the cha●…e which is with euery 〈◊〉 of windecaried vp and doune who were the true wheat which lieth 〈◊〉 against all tentations and perseuereth in the Church of God For those that were light and euill disposed when they vnderstode they might kepe their liuinges though they did not dischardge the office belonging therevnto seing they came to the office only to haue the liuing those I say embraced with all their endeuour the new religion of Martin Luther And that whether they were Monkes and religious men or secular Priestes only Make them sure of good 〈◊〉 they will assure the Prince to geue vp their Abbeys and monasteries And good reason why For they neuer loued neither the cote nor the vow but only the ●…ase and filling of their bellies Then God made it euident vnto the world which were those who had standered in dede the holy order of Priesthod Who they were that hauing 〈◊〉 kept wemen sayd afterward they were their wiues and who they were that 〈◊〉 their 〈◊〉 more them their vowes made to God I shall nede name no man But I thinke there are few men aboue forty yeres old in all England but they can of their owne knowledge reckon vp diuers 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 who before the preaching of Luther shamed with their vnhouest behauiour the clergy of the realme And the same men shewed themselues when broching tyme came not to haue ben of the Church but of that religion whatsoeuer should be set foor●… most carual This good then Luther hath do●…e that whereas the euill were in profession mingled among the good now it should be no more so For two bodies are made ou●… of Catholikes an other of the Protestantes And the Churche of God remaineth 〈◊〉 purged from that wicked generation of men Not that Catho●…kes lack their great 〈◊〉 or can be iustified in the sighe of God as no synners But it skilleth much whether a man doe syn with fear of 〈◊〉 and with desyre of repentance or els whether he desend his syn make a doctrine of his euildoing The 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and Priest sayeth he doth not synne in marying though he 〈◊〉 not to marie Yea to amend the matter he sayeth no man ought to vowe chastitie condemning in that doctrine besyde an infinite number of holy professed virgins the blessed mother of God who wōdered how she might haue a childe 〈◊〉 she knew not any man Whereunto her own reason mig●…t 〈◊〉 haue replied that hereafter she might know a man except she had vowed her selfe not to know at all any man Now Luther was permitted to discouer such synners as were most desperate and of least purpose to repent This Luther hath shaken the walles of moe Chapels Churches Monasteries then euer any king of Syria did shake 〈◊〉 Castels or houses in the land of the twelue tribes of Israel and ●…uda He began with lesse matters but as the Prince of the 〈◊〉 throwing 〈◊〉 and conquering such small fortes as lay in his way alwayes made hast to besiege Hierusalem itselse the chiefe Citie of the land of Iury so Luther hauing his eye vpon the highest mysterie of all our faith as him selse 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to ouerthrow the great reuerence which all good men gaue to the blessed Sacrament of the altar He went about to be persuaded In Sacramento praeter panem vinum esse nihil that nothing was in the Sacrament besides bread and wine For these are his owne wordes But sinding the scriptures to plaine as himself also 〈◊〉 and the saith and consent of 〈◊〉 doctours and people to strong he 〈◊〉 gaue ouer tha●… 〈◊〉 and contented himselfe with 〈◊〉 the sacred ●…ower of 〈◊〉 He taught that bread and wine were not in their substance changed into the body of Christ 〈◊〉 withall the 〈◊〉 presence of our Sauiours flesh and blood Whose 〈◊〉 o●…ce being spred in Germanie a great multitude of 〈◊〉 Rutters voluntarily folowed his 〈◊〉 But when the Catholikes had euidently shewed that two diuers natures al●…ready exta●…t in the world as Christ and 〈◊〉 bread or wine could neuer without a maruelouse vnion be made one and be incorporated together the which vnion betwen Christ and materiall bread and wine neither is expre●…y acknowledged by the holy Gospell neither gathered thence by generall Councels or lerned Fathers ●…or who euer heard De Christo impanato of Christ imbreaded moreouer when the Catholikes declared their belefe of 〈◊〉 to be conformable to the Scriptures and expresly alowed by the holy spirit of God in generall Councels and in the bookes of auncient Doctours 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 his Capitain Luther neither to be able to withstand the reasons brought against him neither yet willing to geue ouer the opinion which him selfe had chosen he much misliked with Luther and within foure yeres after began to publish at zurich in z●…cherland that the reall substance of Christes flesh and blood was not in the Sacrament of the altar as Luther had said but only was named and signified to be there To whom Decolam●…s a renegate out of S. Brigittes Cloister ioyned him selfe stoutly defending that figuratine doctrine both against the Catholikes and against Martin Luther The Catholikes out of hand shewed how much against the wordes and workes of Christ that opinion is how absurd vnsemely and vncredible it were that Christ who is the truth it selfe and by whom truth is made and who came to fulfill all figures should leaue in his owne supper contrary to the meaning of his owne sayinges nothing but figures and shadowes Satan therefore vnderstanding this doctrine of zuinglius to be much better impugned by the Catholikes then by Decolam●…dins defended fearing y● onerthrow of the whole armie spedily sent in a fresh band vnder y● conduct and gouernance of John Caluin who restoring y● fight protested y● he neither thought nor taught a bare figure to be geuē at y● supper of Christ as zuinglius did seme to teach In dede quod he a figure it is but

that he had not one chappell reserued to him in all the world where idolatry was not outwardly committed And how committed by pretence of his owne Gospell of his owne word of his own dede It was Christ that sayd This is my body It was he that sayd Ye beleue in God beleue also in me I and my Father are one thing or substance If it be so wee must worship him as wee adore his Father And his body is vnited to his diuine persone Yea say you but it is not his body but bread still appointed to figure his body Well Syr he sayd it is his body and all the Church hath so far beleued him that all Christians haue worshipped it for euer as being his true body That faith of theirs ioyned with those words of Christ proue to me that it is his body and therefore no idol Moreouer I thinke my self bound to beleue the Prophetes who sayd Christ should destroy y● idols of the earth which literally is by S. Athanasius S. Hierome S. Chrysostome and S. Augustine and by many others expounded of externall idolatry whereby men fell doune geuing Godly honour to creatures Such a worshipping after the iucarnation of Christ is decayed in the whole world euen among infidels much more it ought to be decayed among the faithfull And yet if our idolatrie be any it is externall What say wee then Is there now a days no idolatry in Christendome Are there no false Gods worshipped yes doubtlesse to many But idolatry partly is outward partly is inward The outward idolatry is decayed by the outward and visible coming of Christ into the world The inward is decayed by the faith and charitie of good people But because not al that be outward Christians be the true seruantes of God therefore they still worship idols in their hartes They adore mony for the desier where of they sel benifices and cure of soules without feare and are content to robbe euen Churches and monasteries although they thinke wel inough both of Priests and Monkes as they vse to say These inward idols bee not taken away but where Christ is inwardly professed And for asmuch as likewise y● outward idols be taken away where Christ is outwardly professed it can not be that those who beare the name of Catholikes and Christiās should adore by common consent any outward idoll Is there then no outward idol at all Noue surely made with the hands of men among Christians But yet there lack not inuisible idols made by the wit of men whereof S. Cyprian speaketh in this wise Christi aduentu detectus ac prostratus inimicus videns idola derelicta caet The enemy detected and throwen doune by the coming of Christ seing the idols forsaken and his seates and Temples left voide through the great multitude of beleuers deuised a new guile that vnder the very title of Christes name he may deceaue the vnwary He hath found heresies and schismes whereby he might ouerthrow faith corrupt truth and cutte of vnitie Lo the heresies and the schismes are the idols that be inuented since y● coming of Christ. If you wil knowe a true marke of an idolatour note him y● diuideth vnitie that maketh parts that goeth from agreement Fifty yeres past there was but one body of the whole West Church All worshipped one God one Christ one body and one blood of his Al were vnder one shepherd the Bishop of Rome Al spake one tong in publike seruice of the West Church all kept one faith acknowledged one truth Luther arose and sayd The Pope was not our head Straight vnitie was diuided For one withdrew him self from the rest Ergo Luther was the first idolatour Anon after he had fellows a pretie flock of idolatours very visibly seen and knowen to dwel at Wittenberge Within fower yeres zuinglius diuided him self not now from y● Pope but euen from Luther and made two idols of one After which tyme y● idols haue bene multiplied to the number of aboue three score that canbe named in Germany as it may appeare in Fridericus Staphylus And as for the Sacramentaries in England although they haue receaued into the number of their Gods y● chief idols both Auther and zuingli●…s yet they worship the idoll of Taluine aboue them both For as S. Hierome saith Sicut idola fiunt manu artificis ita Haereticorum peruersa doctrina quodcunque simulauerit vertit in idolum facit pro Christo adorari Antichristum As idols be made with y● hand of the craftsmā so what so euer the ouerthwart doctrine of Heretikes cloketh it turneth it into an idol and causeth Antichriste to be adored in stede of Christe As for example Martin Luther or Iohn Caluine being fully determined to breake of from the reste of the Church syt a deuising sith they are at a point not to teache the olde doctrine what new doctrine they may teache Then hath the Deuill power vpon them for so much as they are finaly agr●…ed not to be subiect to any master or preacher in the whole Church of God no though it were a whole generall Councell gathered out of all the men in y● earth For that intolerable arrogancy the Deuill may rule them as he list therefore sendeth some wicked opinion into theire mindes such as he hath plenty of They a litle while pondering it perhappes i●…dge it impossible to be admitted of men as Luther iudged of the deniall of the reall presence wherein he laboured a certaine time and in that case the Deuill inspireth a newe deuise But when they are once agreed vpon that they will goe foreward withall they haue a strong imaginacion how certeine that opinion is and with an excessiue pride acknowlege them selues the Prophetes of God and imagine what glory they shall come vnto among fooles and mad men Albeit they must take them for no fooles who soeuer wil forsake the faith approued fiftene hundred yeres together and folow the new blast of theire trompet But are they trow ye no fooles because they think them selues none Thus when they haue gotten a sufficient schole and audiēce they publish their doctrine vnder y● name of Gods worde and so er●…ct a phantasticall idoll But to say that the blessed Sacrament of Christe is an idoll semeth necessarily to imploy that Christe iustituted an idoll which to thinke it were no small idolatry For he and noman els made or published this Sacrament to thend idolatry should cease whiles wee did only adore that body and blood which is vnited to the Godhead in one person But yet if our Fathers did and wee do worshippe wheaten bread and wine our idolatry were more grosse not only then that of the heretikes but also then y● of the Gentils But that is vtterly against the worde of God therefore wee do not worship any creature at all as

theyr charitie and theyr cōslict against the deuill the world and the flesh is lost They were more miserable then any men For they liued more hardly in this life then any of our age doth and yet all is loste They were idolatours they worshipped a false God they are conde●…ned for euer This could not S. Paule abyde this he accōpted for wonderfull absurd that a man who is called to the faith and baptized in Christe who doth his best to serue God with all his hart and thought that he should be condemned for beleuing that which al men preached all taught all professed For surely the real presence of Christes body and blood vnder the formes of bread and wine was beleued through out al the Church in so much that Caluin Decolampadius Zuinglius Luther Wyelefe yea Berengarius did once euery of them with al theyr scholars beleue the said reall presence For they were baptized and christened al to be made members of that member of faithfull men all which did beleue that Christ in the Sacrament of his last supper had lefte to them vnder the formes of bread and wine his owne body and blood Whiles thē they were made by baptisme of that Catholike company them selues also had the same Catholike belefe and no marnayle sith all they being baptized when they were infantes and therefore hauing no actuall fayth of theyr owne must nedes haue only that faith which the Church had whereof by baptisme they were made members but the whole Church East and West belened the reall presence of Christes body so that when Beringarius began to say otherwise he was reproued of al the Preachers of y● age he was condemned by three Councels of Bishops kept at Rome and Uercels in Italy and at Tours in France He was impugned by Algerus Laufrācus Gui●…undus and afterward by Rupertus Petrus Cluniacensis and other excellent Clerks of that tyme. The faithful Princes and people abhorred him and to be short no man beleued his doctrine except that he changed his old faith to take a new of Berengarius For if any other man in the whole Church before Berengarius had openly taught or beleued that Christ was ●…ly by a figure in the Sacrament then could not he only haue bene made r●…cant nor had not bene accompted the father and first open preacher of that faith Againe if the Princes and people had bene of his belefe they had surely done as the princes and people of our tyme who beleue the doctrine of Berengarius dayly do They had throwen doune altars ouerthrowen Churches denyed all outward Priesthod changed Bishops into superintendents Priests into ministers altars into tables y● chaste clergy into the vnlau●…ul mariage of ●…otaries they had not preserued the Sacrament of the altar for soden necessities they had not adored the flesh of God and man vnder the form of bread and wine they had not bene content with one kind at the holy cōmunion one 〈◊〉 should not haue said Masse without an other to receaue the communion with him the sacrifice of the Masse had not bene applied to the liue and dead monasteries chantries chappels had not bene so fast erected and to speake breifly al that now is mislyked had bene then misliked if the princes and people of that age had thought as Princes and people such as nowe folow 〈◊〉 his doctrine doe thinke For it can not be otherwise but that the same fayth will bring forth the same workes as one manner of tree bringeth forth alwaise the same manner of fruit But if it be euid ent to all men that fyue hundred yers past and vpward euen to y● daies of Constantine the great vnder whom Christ was openly worshipped Churches monasteries altars chapp●…lles were built if Priests were estemed the body of Christ reserued and adored it Masses were in vse and in price euery where and said for the liuing and the dead out of all controuersie neither Bishops who kepte Councels against Berengarius neither preachers and doctours who taught and wrote against him neither princes and people who did and folowed the contrary effect to his doctrine none ▪ I say of al the Christian men a●…●…ublikely professed B●…rengarius opion which was to deny the reall ●…ce of Christes body and blood in the Sacrament of the altar So that only those whome Berengarius seduced began then first to thinke as he did wher●…by two things are manifest the one that Beringari●…s went from the doctrine of all the Church and from that fayth wherein he was baptized An other that for so doing he was a seducer and false teacher to whome none of the Apostles successours who for that tyme ruled the Church gaue any commission to preache such doctrine And yet how could he preache if he were not sent or how could he be sent sith no man would authorise him to preache that doctrine y● con●…rary wherof him selfe beleued Therefore of such false preachers as Berengarius was God said by the Prophete Ieremie I sent them not and they ranne For if God se●…t him he can shew his commission he can name y● meane wherby he was sent he cā bring forth what successour of the Apostles willed him to preache that doctrine But if he can not doe so he cometh of him self he preacheth without authority and consequently he is a thefe a robber a murdrer and so are all those that folow him ●…owbeit for so much as he recanted it may be well thought that by penance he was reconciled to God again And so may his folowers be reconciled if according to the example of theyr master they will repent It was then the vni●…ersall faith of the Church before the ti●…e of Berengari●…s that Christes body and blood waspresent really vnder the formes of bread and wine which being so if that faith came not to them from the Apostles who taught it them ▪ If faith ●…ome of hearing the word of God preached the whole Church could not beleue that which was not preached If it were so preached either that preaching came by lawfull co●…ission and then it was of God and the doctrine good or els it came of priuate 〈◊〉 and it must be shewed who were those vs●…pers that preached otherwise t●…●…ey had receaued Or how is it possible t●…t it 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a priuate vsurping which was generally receaued euery where Or if those that preached the reall presence were men that went by schisme or hereseie out of y● Church let y● Church and faithfull cumpanie be named whence they went Let vs goe from step to step First six hundred yeres past al the knowē faithful on the ●…arth beleued the reall presence as it appered euidently when Berengarius afterward began to teache otherwise For then all preachers prelates and people resisted him both in word and dede as I shewed before Wel then those doc●…ours and preachers of six hundred yeres old how