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and_o conformity_n to_o they_o impose_v by_o the_o ecclesiastical_a governor_n both_o of_o the_o eastern_a and_o western_a church_n at_o the_o appearance_n of_o luther_n which_o remain_v here_o a_o little_a more_o full_o to_o be_v vindicate_v and_o clear_v a_o 1_o st_z a_o substantial_a conversion_n of_o the_o element_n 2._o §._o 158._o n_o 2._o and_o a_o corporal_a presence_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n and_o blood_n in_o the_o eucharist_n as_o to_o the_o western_a church_n be_v in_o several_a council_n define_v against_o berengarius_fw-la 57_o berengarius_fw-la see_v disc_n 1._o §._o 57_o and_o as_o to_o the_o eastern_a church_n the_o modern_a greek_n be_v confess_v in_o this_o point_n to_o agree_v with_o the_o romnist_n by_o learned_a protestant_n *_o by_o dr._n potter_n p._n 225._o where_n affirm_v a_o difference_n between_o the_o roman_a opinion_n and_o that_o of_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n as_o to_o many_o other_o point_n yet_o this_o particular_a he_o except_v 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idolatriae_fw-la arcessere_fw-la &_o damnare_fw-la c_o concern_v the_o three_o 1_o §._o 160_o n._n 1_o see_v the_o solemn_a performance_n thereof_o in_o the_o modern_a canon_n of_o the_o greek_a mass_n as_o full_o and_o much_o what_o with_o the_o like_a expression_n as_o in_o the_o roman_a for_o the_o exclude_v of_o which_o expression_n this_o canon_n suffer_v so_o great_a a_o alteration_n at_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o reformation_n there_o we_o read_v in_o the_o mass_n of_o s._n chrysostom_n tua_fw-la ex_fw-la tuis_fw-la tibi_fw-la offerimus_fw-la per_fw-la omne_fw-la &_o in_o omnibus_fw-la offerimus_fw-la tibi_fw-la rationalem_fw-la hunc_fw-la &_o incruentum_fw-la cultum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o consecrando_fw-la &_o offerendo_fw-la hanc_fw-la propâ—tiationis_fw-la hostiam_fw-la see_v cyrill_n hierosol_n catec_fw-la mystag_n c._n 5._o comment_v on_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o mass_n et_fw-la supplicamus_fw-la emitte_v spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la tuum_fw-la in_o nos_fw-la &_o in_o haec_fw-la dona_fw-la proposita_fw-la offerimus_fw-la tibi_fw-la rationale_fw-la hoc_fw-la obsequium_fw-la pro_fw-la his_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o fide_fw-la requiescunt_fw-la pro_fw-la majoribus_fw-la patribus_fw-la patriarâ—his_fw-la etc._n etc._n i.e._n ut_fw-la illis_fw-la proficiat_fw-la ad_fw-la honorem_fw-la pro_fw-la requie_n &_o remissâ—one_fw-la animarum_fw-la servorum_fw-la tuorum_fw-la in_o loco_fw-la lucido_fw-la etc._n etc._n ut_fw-la illis_fw-la proficiat_fw-la ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la pro_fw-la sanctâ_fw-la catholicâ_fw-la &_o apostoliâ_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la etc._n etc._n again_o ut_fw-la clemens_fw-la deus_fw-la noster_fw-la qui_fw-la oblata_fw-la &_o sanctificata_fw-la pretiosa_fw-la dona_fw-la in_fw-la sanctum_fw-la &_o supercaeleste_a intellectuale_fw-la suum_fw-la altar_n suscepit_fw-la in_o odorem_fw-la spiritualis_fw-la suavitatis_fw-la nobis_fw-la divinam_fw-la gratiam_fw-la &_o sanctissimi_fw-la spiritus_fw-la donum_fw-la rependat_fw-la dominum_fw-la 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