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eccles_n lib_n 6_o cap._n 4._o who_o in_o this_o point_n neither_o agree_v constant_o with_o himself_o nor_o with_o other_o 3._o saint_n austen_n say_v by_o the_o daily_a sacrifice_n speak_v of_o in_o the_o prophet_n malachi_n be_v mean_v the_o prayer_n and_o praise_n of_o saint_n azorius_fw-la make_v answer_v 346._o aug._n lib._n 2_o contr_n light_v cap_n â—6_n reliquum_fw-la veterum_fw-la patrun_v coetum_fw-la atponimê°_n et_fw-la council_n tridentini_n testimonium_fw-la azor._fw-la instit_fw-la moral_n part_n 1._o l._n â—0_n c._n 11._o aug_n contr_n adim_n c._n 12._o jewel_n art_n 12_o pa_n 346._o we_o oppose_v against_o he_o the_o general_a consent_n of_o other_o father_n and_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n 4._o st._n austen_n say_v christ_n speak_v these_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n when_o he_o give_v a_o sign_n of_o his_o body_n master_n hardin_n make_v answer_v that_o st._n austen_n fight_v against_o the_o manichee_n oftentimes_o use_v not_o his_o own_o 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opinio_fw-la quam_fw-la tridentinun_n concilium_fw-la nuper_fw-la merito_fw-la damnavit_fw-la omne_fw-la infidelium_fw-la opera_fw-la esse_fw-la peccata_fw-la quamuis_fw-la maximum_fw-la authorem_fw-la diwm_fw-la augustinun_n habuisse_fw-la videatur_fw-la mald._a com._n in_o math._n 7.18_o the_o work_n which_o be_v do_v without_o faith_n though_o they_o seem_v good_a be_v turn_v into_o sin_n maldonat_a answer_n we_o may_v not_o defend_v that_o opinion_n which_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n do_v of_o late_o just_o condemn_v although_o the_o great_a father_n s._n austen_n seem_v to_o be_v of_o that_o opinion_n 8._o saint_n austen_n say_v he_o crow_v thou_o deform_a coronat_fw-la te_fw-la quia_fw-la dona_fw-la sva_fw-la coronat_fw-la non_fw-la merita_fw-la tua_fw-la aug._n in_o psal_n 100l_n bish_n in_o his_o refor_o of_o a_o cathol_n deform_a because_o he_o crow_v his_o own_o gift_n not_o thy_o merit_n m._n bishop_n protest_v that_o saint_n austen_n be_v too_o wise_a to_o let_v any_o such_o foolish_a sentence_n to_o pass_v his_o pen._n 9_o saint_n austen_n say_v i_o know_v certain_a worshipper_n of_o tomb_n and_o picture_n 16._o august_n de_fw-fr mor._n eccles_n li._n 1._o c._n 34._o bell._n
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the_o prophet_n david_n say_v thou_o have_v put_v all_o thing_n under_o his_o foot_n antoninus_n expound_v it_o 2._o anton._n in_o sum_n part_n 3._o tit_n 22._o c._n 5._o haebr_n 2._o thou_o have_v make_v all_o thing_n subject_a to_o the_o pope_n the_o cattle_n of_o the_o field_n that_o be_v to_o say_v man_n live_v in_o the_o earth_n the_o fish_n of_o the_o sea_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n the_o fowl_n of_o the_o air_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o soul_n of_o the_o bless_a in_o heaven_n and_o last_o whereas_o our_o saviour_n christ_n witness_v of_o himself_o 671._o in_o council_n late_a sub_fw-la leo_fw-la 10._o p._n 671._o all_o power_n be_v give_v to_o i_o both_o in_o heaven_n and_o earth_n stephen_n archbishop_n of_o patraca_n apply_v it_o to_o pope_n leo_n the_o ten_o in_o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n in_o the_o audience_n of_o the_o pope_n himself_o who_o thankful_o accept_v it_o and_o suffer_v it_o to_o be_v publish_v and_o print_v and_o as_o it_o be_v right_o observe_v by_o learned_a du_n moulin_n pope_n innocent_a the_o three_o in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o mass_n 30._o buckler_n of_o faith_n pa._n 30._o the_o book_n of_o sacred_a ceremony_n durant_n rational_o tolet_n and_o titleman_n and_o other_o do_v most_o ridiculous_o wrest_v the_o scripture_n altogether_o different_a from_o their_o right_a meaning_n and_o the_o exposition_n of_o the_o father_n as_o for_o instance_n the_o scripture_n say_v the_o rock_n be_v christ_n therefore_o say_v they_o the_o altar_n must_v be_v of_o stone_n it_o be_v write_v i_o be_o the_o light_n of_o the_o world_n therefore_o taper_n must_v be_v set_v upon_o the_o altar_n it_o be_v write_v let_v he_o kiss_v i_o with_o the_o kiss_n of_o his_o mouth_n therefore_o the_o priest_n must_v kiss_v the_o altar_n it_o be_v write_v thou_o shall_v see_v my_o back_n part_n 33.23_o exod._n 33.23_o therefore_o the_o priest_n must_v turn_v his_o back_n to_o the_o people_n it_o be_v write_v 51._o lava_fw-la i_o ampliús_fw-la psal_n 51._o wash_v i_o again_o therefore_o the_o priest_n must_v wash_v his_o hand_n twice_o it_o be_v write_v 3.5_o exod._n 3.5_o put_v off_o thy_o shoe_n for_o this_o place_n be_v holy_a therefore_o the_o bishop_n at_o mass_n change_v his_o hose_n and_o shoe_n and_o last_o the_o pope_n himself_o at_o the_o time_n of_o his_o coronation_n cast_v certain_a copper_n money_n among_o the_o people_n use_v the_o word_n of_o peter_n silver_n and_o gold_n have_v i_o none_o but_o that_o which_o i_o have_v i_o give_v thou_o these_o and_o the_o like_a exposition_n do_v much_o resemble_v the_o strict_a order_n of_o monk_n who_o read_v the_o word_n in_o matthew_n 385._o districtissimi_fw-la monachorun_n simplicitèr_fw-la intelligentes_fw-la fecerunt_fw-la sibi_fw-la cruces_fw-la ligneas_fw-la easque_fw-la sibi_fw-la iugiter_fw-la humeru_fw-la circumferentes_fw-la &c_n &c_n joh._n de_fw-fr polemar_n orat_fw-la in_o council_n basil_n pag._n 385._o he_o that_o take_v not_o up_o his_o cross_n and_o follow_v i_o be_v not_o worthy_a of_o i_o make_v themselves_o wooden_a cross_n and_o so_o carry_v they_o on_o their_o back_n continual_o cause_v all_o the_o world_n to_o laugh_v at_o they_o for_o howsoever_o they_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v the_o exposition_n of_o some_o private_a spirit_n yet_o he_o that_o make_v oath_n in_o verbo_fw-la sacerdotis_fw-la to_o receive_v &_o expound_v the_o scripture_n with_o the_o uniform_a consent_n of_o father_n and_o shall_v render_v such_o exposition_n of_o the_o text_n can_v be_v no_o true_a catholic_a haeresis_fw-la hieron_n 24._o q_o 3._o cap._n haeresis_fw-la for_o whosoever_o do_v otherwise_o understand_v the_o scripture_n say_v hierome_n than_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n who_o be_v the_o penman_n of_o the_o scripture_n require_v although_o he_o have_v not_o depart_v from_o the_o church_n yet_o he_o may_v be_v term_v a_o heretic_n but_o as_o the_o friar_n say_v witty_o in_o his_o sermon_n the_o truth_n 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joh._n molinaeum_n p._n 1109._o idem_fw-la schol._n in_o hymn_n eccles_n operum_fw-la pag._n 242._o i_o do_v not_o gainsay_v it_o notwithstanding_o i_o will_v think_v that_o a_o tacit_n condition_n ought_v to_o be_v understand_v in_o such_o a_o intimation_n as_o be_v use_v by_o gregory_n nazianzene_n that_o be_v if_o they_o do_v hear_v if_o they_o do_v understand_v or_o otherwise_o that_o be_v to_o say_v all_z you_o saint_n pray_v unto_o god_n for_o i_o shall_v import_v as_o much_o as_o if_o it_o be_v say_v will_v to_o god_n that_o all_o the_o saint_n shall_v pray_v to_o god_n for_o i_o but_o that_o which_o be_v remarkable_a and_o as_o i_o conceive_v be_v worthy_a of_o all_o man_n obserseruation_n our_o adversary_n confess_v there_o be_v no_o invocation_n of_o saint_n before_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n because_o they_o be_v in_o limbo_n and_o do_v not_o see_v god_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v 19_o bellar._n de_fw-fr sanct._n beat._n lib._n 1._o c._n 19_o say_v 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l._n 2._o c._n 2._o bet_n n._n ser._n 3._o de_fw-la omnibus_fw-la sanctis_fw-la iraeneus_n term_v they_o invisible_a hold_n saint_n austen_n hide_a receptacle_n saint_n hyllarie_o the_o bosom_n of_o rest_n ambrose_n place_n of_o suspense_n bernard_n atria_n outward_a porch_n or_o court_n and_o for_o a_o further_a testimony_n of_o these_o and_o other_o particular_n their_o learned_a stapleton_n profess_v 2._o tot_o illi_fw-la et_fw-la tam_fw-la celebres_fw-la antiqui_fw-la patres_fw-la tertullianus_n etc._n etc._n huic_fw-la sententiae_fw-la quae_fw-la nunc_fw-la in_o concilio_n florentino_n magnâ_fw-la de_fw-fr mum_o conquisitione_n factà _fw-la ut_fw-la dogma_fw-la fidei_fw-la definita_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la iustorum_fw-la animae_fw-la antè_fw-la diem_fw-la iudicii_fw-la dei_fw-la visione_n fruuntur_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la assensi_fw-la sed_fw-la sententiam_fw-la contrariam_fw-la tradiderunt_fw-la stapl_n defâ—s_fw-la ecclesiast_fw-la authorit_fw-fr count_v whitak_n l._n 1._o c._n 2._o that_o many_o famous_a ancient_a father_n as_o namely_o tertullian_n irenaeus_n origen_n chrysostome_n theodoret_n oecumenius_n theophylact_fw-mi ambrose_n clemens_n romanus_n and_o bernard_n do_v not_o assent_v unto_o this_o sentence_n which_o now_o in_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n be_v at_o length_n after_o much_o dispute_v define_v as_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o righteous_a enjoy_v the_o sight_n of_o god_n before_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n but_o do_v deliver_v the_o contrary_a sentence_n thereunto_o from_o hence_o therefore_o i_o may_v infallible_o conclude_v that_o such_o as_o hold_v that_o the_o saint_n be_v not_o admit_v to_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n can_v not_o well_o hold_v that_o man_n shall_v pray_v unto_o they_o in_o such_o manner_n as_o the_o romanist_n use_v now_o to_o do_v because_o the_o saint_n not_o enjoy_v the_o sight_n of_o god_n be_v not_o able_a ordinary_o to_o take_v notice_n of_o the_o prayer_n that_o be_v put_v up_o unto_o they_o saint_n austen_n tell_v we_o that_o in_o his_o time_n it_o be_v a_o great_a question_n 1._o respondeo_fw-la magnam_fw-la quidem_fw-la esse_fw-la quaestionum_fw-la verum_fw-la vel_fw-la quatenùs_fw-la vel_fw-la quomodò_fw-la ea_fw-la quaecircà _fw-la nos_fw-la aguntur_fw-la noverint_fw-la spiritus_fw-la mortuorum_fw-la aug._n in_o psal_n 108._o enarrat_fw-la 1._o and_o not_o easy_o to_o be_v determine_v whether_o at_o all_o or_o how_o far_o or_o after_o what_o manner_n the_o spirit_n of_o the_o dead_a do_v know_v the_o thing_n that_o concern_v we_o here_o and_o anselmus_fw-la laudunensis_n in_o his_o interlineal_a gloss_n upon_o that_o text_n abraham_n be_v ignorant_a of_o we_o and_o israel_n know_v we_o not_o esa_n 63._o note_v that_o saint_n austen_n say_v that_o the_o dead_a even_o the_o saint_n do_v not_o know_v what_o the_o live_a do_v no_o not_o their_o own_o son_n 21_o non_fw-la propriè_fw-la invocamus_fw-la sanctos_fw-la sed_fw-la deum_fw-la non_fw-la enim_fw-la 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judith_n et_fw-la tobiae_fw-la &_o macabaeorun_v libros_fw-la legit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la sed_fw-la eos_fw-la inter_fw-la canonicas_fw-la scripturas_fw-la non_fw-la recipit_fw-la sic_fw-la et_fw-la haec_fw-la duo_fw-la volumina_fw-la sapientia_fw-la solomonis_fw-la et_fw-la syrach_n legit_fw-la ad_fw-la adificationem_fw-la plebis_fw-la non_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la dogmatum_fw-la confirmandum_fw-la in_o praefat._n lib_n solom_n admitto_fw-la hieronymun_n ea_fw-la fuisse_fw-la opinion_n quia_fw-la nondum_fw-la generale_fw-mi concilium_fw-la de_fw-fr his_o libris_fw-la aliquid_fw-la statuerat_fw-la etc._n etc._n bell_n de_fw-fr verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 10._o ipso_fw-la ergo_fw-la sacra_fw-la codicis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d pandam_fw-la tibi_fw-la omnes_fw-la libellos_fw-la etc._n etc._n ultimum_fw-la nomen_fw-la duplex_fw-la cvi_fw-la est_fw-la angelum_fw-la malachiam_fw-la greg._n naz._n car._n jamb_n ad_fw-la seleucum_n jamb_n 3._o de_fw-fr quibê°_n tamen_fw-la nunc_fw-la 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read_v for_o the_o edification_n of_o the_o people_n not_o to_o confirm_v thereby_o the_o authority_n of_o any_o doctrine_n in_o the_o church_n this_o be_v likewise_o confess_v by_o bellarmine_n i_o admit_v say_v he_o that_o hierome_n be_v of_o that_o opinion_n because_o as_o yet_o in_o those_o day_n a_o general_a council_n have_v decree_v nothing_o touch_v those_o book_n except_o the_o book_n of_o judith_n which_o hierom_n afterward_o receive_v gregory_n nazianzen_n writing_n to_o seleucus_n promise_v he_o that_o he_o will_v show_v he_o a_o catalogue_n of_o the_o canonical_a book_n and_o according_o begin_v from_o genesis_n cite_v the_o book_n in_o order_n to_o malachi_n the_o last_o of_o the_o prophet_n this_o authority_n in_o our_o behalf_n be_v likewise_o confess_v by_o jacobus_n billius_n a_o romanist_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o those_o verse_n but_o he_o excuse_v he_o in_o this_o manner_n that_o he_o omit_v other_o book_n as_o namely_o judith_n the_o maccabee_n etc._n etc._n 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apocrhyphos_fw-la reiicitur_fw-la binius_fw-la in_o council_n rom._n sub_fw-la sylu_a not._n touch_v the_o entire_a rule_n of_o scripture_n in_o the_o four_o age._n in_o the_o five_o age_n an._n 400._o to_o 500_o epiphanius_n after_o he_o have_v reckon_v up_o the_o canon_n of_o two_o and_o twenty_o book_n ponder_n vtiles_fw-la quidem_fw-la sunt_fw-la et_fw-la commodi_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o numerum_fw-la receptorum_fw-la non_fw-la referuntur_fw-la quare_fw-la neque_fw-la in_o aaron_n neque_fw-la in_o testamenti_fw-la arcam_fw-la repositi_fw-la sunt_fw-la epiph._n li._n de_fw-la mens_fw-la &_o ponder_n censure_v the_o book_n of_o wisdom_n and_o ecclesiasticus_fw-la in_o these_o word_n they_o be_v fit_a and_o profitable_a but_o not_o reckon_v among_o those_o book_n which_o be_v receive_v by_o our_o church_n and_o therefore_o be_v neither_o lay_v up_o with_o aaron_n nor_o in_o the_o ark_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n 36._o in_o machabaeorun_n libris_fw-la etsi_fw-la aliquid_fw-la mirabilium_fw-la numero_fw-la inserendun_v conveniens_fw-la fuisse_fw-la ordini_fw-la inveniatur_fw-la de_fw-la hâc_fw-la tamen_fw-la nullá_fw-la curâ_fw-la fatigabimur_fw-la quiae_fw-la tantum_fw-la agere_fw-la proposuimus_fw-la ut_fw-la de_fw-la divini_fw-la canonis_fw-la mirabilibus_fw-la exiguam_fw-la expositionem_fw-la tangeremus_fw-la aug._n the_o mirab_n sacrae_fw-la scrip._n l._n 2._o c._n 34._o have_v supputatio_fw-la non_fw-la in_o scripture_n sanctis_fw-la quae_fw-la appellantur_fw-la canonica_n say_v in_o aliis_fw-la invenitur_fw-la in_o quibê°_n sunt_fw-la et_fw-la machabaeorun_n libri_fw-la de_fw-fr civ_o dei_fw-la l._n 18._o c._n 36._o saint_n austen_n although_o there_o may_v something_o be_v find_v in_o the_o book_n of_o maccabee_n meet_v for_o this_o order_n of_o writing_n and_o worthy_a to_o be_v join_v with_o the_o number_n of_o miracle_n yet_o we_o will_v not_o weâ—ry_v ourselves_o with_o any_o care_n thereof_o for_o that_o we_o have_v intend_v only_o to_o touch_v a_o short_a rehearsal_n of_o the_o miracle_n contain_v in_o the_o divine_a canon_n and_o for_o a_o further_a explanation_n of_o the_o true_a canon_n different_a from_o the_o apocryphal_a scripture_n he_o tell_v we_o this_o reckon_n be_v not_o find_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n that_o be_v call_v canonical_a but_o in_o certain_a other_o book_n among_o which_o be_v the_o book_n of_o the_o maccabee_n and_o as_o concern_v the_o authority_n of_o these_o book_n when_o it_o be_v object_v against_o he_o that_o razis_n kill_v himself_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v lawful_a by_o the_o scripture_n for_o a_o man_n to_o kill_v himself_o among_o other_o answer_n he_o return_v this_o for_o one_o the_o jew_n do_v not_o esteem_v this_o scripture_n call_v the_o maccabee_n in_o such_o sort_n 23._o scriptura_fw-la quae_fw-la appellâ—_fw-la tur_fw-la machabaorum_fw-la recepta_fw-la est_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la inâ—tilitèâ—_n si_fw-fr sobrie_fw-fr legatur_fw-la vel_fw-la audiatur_fw-la maximè_fw-la propter_fw-la illos_fw-la machabaeos_fw-la qui_fw-la pro_fw-la dei_fw-la lege_fw-la indigna_fw-es perpess_fw-mi sunt_fw-la aug._n contra_fw-la secundun_v ep._n gaud._n li._n 2._o c._n 23._o as_o the_o law_n the_o prophet_n and_o the_o psalm_n to_o which_o christ_n give_v testimony_n as_o to_o they_o that_o bear_v that_o witness_n of_o he_o say_v it_o behove_v that_o all_o these_o thing_n shall_v be_v fulfil_v that_o be_v write_v of_o i_o in_o the_o law_n the_o prophet_n and_o the_o psalm_n but_o it_o be_v receive_v of_o the_o church_n not_o unprofitable_o so_o that_o it_o be_v read_v and_o hear_v with_o sobriety_n especial_o because_o of_o these_o maccabee_n which_o endure_v grievous_a persecution_n for_o the_o law_n of_o god_n in_o the_o six_o age_n an._n 500_o to_o 600._o 7._o quarehi_n libri_fw-la non_fw-la inter_fw-la canonicas_fw-la scripturas_fw-la currunt_fw-la m._n quoniam_fw-la apud_fw-la haebreos_n quoque_fw-la super_fw-la hac_fw-la differentia_fw-la recipiebantur_fw-la sicut_fw-la hier._n caterique_a testantur_fw-la jun._n the_o part_n divinae_fw-la legis_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 3._o suntpratereà _fw-la alii_fw-la quidem_fw-la libri_fw-la ut_fw-la sapientia_fw-la solo_n monis_fw-la libre_fw-la jesu_fw-la silij_fw-la syrach_n et_fw-la lib._n judith_n et_fw-la tobiae_fw-la et_fw-la libri_fw-la machabaeorqui_fw-la leguntur_fw-la quidem_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la scribuntur_fw-la in_o canone_o isid_n praenot_n elucid_n de_fw-fr script_n &_o scripture_n sac_n c._n 6_o &_o 7._o junilius_n bishop_n of_o
sive_fw-la purgatorii_fw-la five_o indulgentiarun_n fides_fw-la in_o primitiuâ_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la at_o que_fw-la nunc_fw-la est_fw-la roffen_n aâ—t_fw-la 18_o p._n 496._o touch_v universality_n it_o be_v the_o confession_n of_o fisher_n their_o own_o bishop_n of_o rochester_n whosoever_o will_v read_v the_o commentary_n of_o the_o ancient_a greek_n so_o far_o as_o i_o see_v he_o shall_v find_v very_o seldom_o mention_v of_o purgatory_n or_o none_o at_o all_o and_o the_o latin_n in_o the_o western_a church_n do_v not_o receive_v the_o truth_n of_o this_o matter_n altogether_o but_o by_o little_a and_o little_a neither_o indeed_o be_v the_o faith_n either_o of_o purgatory_n or_o indulgence_n so_o needful_a in_o the_o primitive_a church_n as_o now_o it_o be_v a_o strange_a confession_n of_o a_o learned_a bishop_n that_o two_o principal_a article_n of_o faith_n viz._n purgatory_n and_o indulgence_n be_v scarce_o know_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n nor_o yet_o very_o necessary_a to_o be_v receive_v at_o all_o time_n and_o of_o all_o person_n let_v it_o suffice_v many_o point_n of_o the_o now_o roman_a religion_n be_v utter_o unknown_a to_o the_o greek_a church_n which_o in_o the_o first_o age_n do_v whole_o communicate_v with_o the_o ancient_a roman_a faith_n and_o therefore_o their_o alphonsus_n à _fw-la castro_n think_v it_o the_o best_a way_n to_o solve_v the_o point_n in_o question_n with_o this_o answer_n 12._o vnus_fw-la ex_fw-la notissimis_fw-la erroribus_fw-la graecorun_n et_fw-fr armenorun_n est_fw-la quo_fw-la docent_fw-la nullum_fw-la esse_fw-la purgatorium_fw-la locum_fw-la quo_fw-la animae_fw-la ab_fw-la hac_fw-la luce_fw-fr migrantes_fw-la purgentur_fw-la à _fw-la sordibus_fw-la alph._n à _fw-fr case_n advers_a haeres_fw-la lib._n 12._o it_o be_v one_o of_o the_o most_o know_a error_n of_o the_o grecian_n and_o armenian_n whereby_o they_o teach_v there_o be_v no_o place_n for_o purgatory_n where_o soul_n after_o this_o life_n be_v purge_v from_o 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