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A13236 Monsig[neu]r fate voi. Or A discovery of the Dalmatian apostata M. Antonius de Dominis, and his bookes. By C.A. to his friend P.R. student of the lawes in the Middle Temple. Sweet, John, 1570-1632. 1617 (1617) STC 23529; ESTC S107581 174,125 319

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