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A12482 An answer to Thomas Bels late challeng named by him The dovvnfal of popery wherin al his arguments are answered, his manifold vntruths, slaunders, ignorance, contradictions, and corruption of Scripture, & Fathers discouered and disproued: with one table of the articles and chapter, and an other of the more markable things conteyned in this booke. VVhat controuersies be here handled is declared in the next page. By S.R. Smith, Richard, 1566-1655. 1605 (1605) STC 22809; ESTC S110779 275,199 548

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greg._n naz._n orat_fw-la 3._o in_o bapt_a s._n hierom._n s._n chrysost_o to_o 4._o epist_n 105._o write_v that_o as_o death_n be_v render_v as_o a_o stipend_n to_o the_o merit_n of_o sin_n so_o be_v everlasting_a life_n as_o a_o stipend_n to_o the_o merit_n of_o justice_n s._n ireney_n l._n 4._o c._n 72._o say_v by_o good_a work_n we_o conquer_v heaven_n s._n basil_n orat_fw-la in_o init_fw-la proverb_n by_o good_a work_n we_o buy_v heaven_n s._n gregory_n nazian_n for_o good_a work_n we_o may_v exact_v reward_n not_o as_o grace_v but_o as_o plain_a debt_n s._n hierom_n epist_n ad_fw-la celant_fw-la god_n have_v cause_n to_o reward_v us._n s._n chrisostom_n hom_n 7._o in_o epist_n rom._n call_v us._n god_n creditor_n and_o usurer_n and_o he_o our_o debtor_n and_o hom_n 3._o 2._o tom._n 2._o de_fw-fr lazaro_n that_o by_o good_a work_n we_o deserve_v heaven_n as_o by_o evil_a hell_n yea_o bel_n himself_o admit_v 77._o bel_n pag._n 77._o more_o than_o impetration_n when_o hereafter_o he_o confess_v heaven_n to_o be_v due_a to_o good_a work_n for_o where_o duty_n be_v there_o be_v not_o mere_a 16._o contradict_v 16._o impetration_n &_o that_o work_n be_v to_o heaven_n as_o the_o loan_n of_o a_o cloak_n in_o a_o shower_n of_o rain_n upon_o promise_n of_o a_o hundred_o pound_n for_o here_o be_v some_o justice_n and_o profess_v to_o defend_v 2._o pag._n 79._o durand_n 2._o d._n 27._o quaest_n 2._o express_o admit_v condign_a merit_n cap._n 1._o parag_v 2._o durands_n opinion_n who_o undoubted_o admit_v more_o than_o simple_a impetration_n but_o if_o bel_n have_v remember_v his_o own_o and_o the_o common_a doctrine_n of_o protestant_n before_o rehearse_v that_o all_o good_a work_n whatsoever_o be_v sin_n he_o will_v never_o have_v grant_v that_o they_o be_v impetratorious_a of_o god_n favour_n and_o reward_n for_o how_o can_v sin_n impetrate_v favour_n or_o reward_n and_o not_o rather_o offence_n and_o punishment_n whereupon_o perkins_n in_o plain_a 2._o perkins_n refor_o cathol_n of_o merit_n p._n 112._o 104._o caluin_n 3._o instit_fw-la c._n 15._o parag_n 4._o &_o 2._o term_n affirm_v that_o our_o righteousness_n be_v not_o capable_a of_o merit_n and_o utter_o renounce_v all_o merit_n of_o man_n and_o caluin_n not_o only_o abhor_v the_o name_n of_o merit_n affirm_v it_o to_o be_v proud_a and_o to_o obscure_a god_n grace_n and_o to_o make_v man_n proud_a but_o profess_v that_o our_o good_a work_n be_v ever_o sprinkle_v with_o many_o filthiness_n for_o which_o god_n may_v be_v just_o offend_v and_o angry_a with_o we_o so_o far_o say_v he_o be_v they_o from_o purchase_v his_o favour_n or_o procure_v his_o liberality_n towards_o us._n thus_o we_o see_v how_o conformable_o bel_n speak_v to_o his_o own_o and_o his_o fellow_n minister_n bel_n against_o his_o fellow_n minister_n minister_n doctrine_n 4._o second_o conclusion_n good_a work_v do_v in_o god_n grace_n be_v condign_o meritorious_a of_o eternal_a life_n this_o be_v that_o which_o bel_n impugn_v in_o this_o article_n as_o a_o point_n of_o our_o faith_n and_o avouch_v it_o to_o be_v defyne_v by_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n but_o false_o for_o the_o council_n have_v no_o word_n of_o condign_a merit_n but_o only_o of_o true_a merit_n which_o in_o plain_a term_n bel_n himself_o dare_v not_o impugn_v or_o deny_v if_o any_o shall_v say_v say_v the_o council_n that_o a_o justify_v 32._o ttident_n sess_v 6._o can_n 32._o man_n by_o good_a work_n which_o he_o do_v by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n and_o merit_n of_o jesus_n christ_n who_o lively_a member_n he_o be_v do_v not_o true_o deserve_v increase_n of_o grace_n eternal_a life_n and_o consecution_n thereof_o if_o he_o depart_v in_o grace_n and_o also_o increase_v of_o glory_n be_v he_o accurse_v here_o be_v good_a work_v defyne_v to_o be_v true_a merit_n of_o glory_n without_o determine_v whither_o they_o be_v condign_a merit_n thereof_o or_o no._n whereupon_o vega_fw-la who_o be_v one_o of_o the_o vega._n vega._n divines_n of_o the_o council_n write_v the_o fid_fw-we &_o open_a q._n 4._o that_o some_o noble_a school_n divine_v be_v move_v say_v he_o with_o no_o light_a argument_n and_o use_v a_o certain_a sober_a and_o prudent_a moderation_n have_v deny_v that_o there_o be_v any_o condign_a merit_n of_o eternal_a happiness_n and_o again_o it_o be_v certain_a say_v he_o that_o there_o be_v merit_n in_o our_o work_n and_o some_o of_o they_o be_v meritorious_a but_o of_o what_o reward_n and_o how_o they_o be_v meritorious_a it_o be_v in_o controversy_n &_o there_o be_v diverse_a opinion_n among_o the_o school_n divine_v and_o q._n 5._o he_o affirm_v gregory_n prede_v gregor_n 1._o d._n 17._o q._n 1._o durand_n q._n 2._o marsil_n in_o 2._o walden_n de_fw-fr sacra_fw-la c._n 7._o burgen_n in_o psalm_n 35._o eckin_n in_o centur_fw-la de_fw-mi prede_v durand_n marsil_n walden_n burgensis_n and_o eckins_n to_o deny_v condign_a merit_n satus_fw-la also_o an_o other_o divine_a of_o the_o say_a council_n l._n 3._o de_fw-fr nat._n &_o grat._n c._n 7._o say_v that_o there_o be_v some_o difference_n among_o catholic_n about_o condign_a merit_n and_o c._n 8._o after_o he_o have_v prove_v condign_a merit_n out_o of_o the_o council_n and_o otherways_o yet_o conclude_v not_o that_o it_o be_v a_o point_n of_o faith_n but_o only_o call_v it_o conclusionem_fw-la probatissimam_fw-la a_o most_o approve_a conclusion_n and_o bellarmin_n who_o bel_n term_v the_o mouth_n of_o papist_n lib._n 5._o the_o iustific_a cap._n 16._o after_o he_o have_v rehearse_v twoe_o opinion_n of_o catholic_n whereof_o the_o one_o seem_v plain_o to_o deny_v condign_a merit_n the_o other_o admit_v it_o only_o in_o a_o large_a sense_n propose_v and_o defend_v the_o three_o opinion_n which_o defend_v condign_a merit_n absolute_o only_o as_o verissimam_fw-la &_o communem_fw-la sententiam_fw-la theologorum_fw-la most_o true_a and_o the_o common_a opinion_n of_o divine_n as_o indeed_o it_o be_v and_o we_o shall_v prove_v it_o anon_o against_o bel._n hereby_o appear_v bell_n shameful_a proceed_n in_o this_o article_n in_o impugn_v condign_a merit_n as_o a_o point_n of_o faith_n defyne_v by_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n which_o have_v no_o word_n of_o condign_a merit_n and_o omit_v the_o question_n of_o true_a merit_n which_o the_o council_n defyne_v &_o catholic_n defend_v as_o a_o point_n of_o their_o faith_n against_o protestant_n 5._o the_o three_o conclusion_n be_v that_o this_o 13._o this_o seem_v defyne_v conc._n trid._n sess_v 6._o c._n ult._n &_o in_o bulla_n pij_fw-la 5._o &_o gregor_n 13._o condign_a merit_n be_v not_o absolute_a but_o suppose_v the_o condition_n of_o god_n promise_v make_v to_o reward_v it_o this_o be_v hold_v of_o the_o best_a divine_n and_o prove_v at_o large_a by_o bellarmin_n l._n 5_o the_o iustifi_n c._n 14._o the_o four_o conclusion_n be_v that_o this_o condign_a merit_n in_o our_o work_n be_v not_o perfect_a have_v actual_a and_o perfect_a arithmetical_a equality_n before_o explicate_v this_o manifest_o annuntiat_fw-la s._n august_n in_o psal_n 93._o to_o 8._o s._n chrysost_o 2._o cor._n 9_o s._n bernard_n serm_n 1._o de_fw-la annuntiat_fw-la the_o father_n teach_v with_o all_o catholic_n and_o bell_n argument_n hereafter_o bring_v convince_v it_o and_o no_o more_o the_o fifte_a conclusion_n be_v that_o the_o imperfect_a condign_a merit_n which_o be_v in_o our_o work_n to_o heaven_n rise_v not_o mere_o of_o god_n acceptation_n but_o partly_o of_o the_o due_a proportion_n and_o sufficiency_n before_o explicate_v in_o they_o to_o the_o reward_n this_o likewise_o be_v no_o matter_n of_o faith_n yet_o truth_n teach_v by_o s._n thomas_n 1._o 2._o 4._o 114._o be_v 1._o &_o 3_o bonavent_n bonavent_a s._n thomas_n s._n bonavent_a 2._o d._n 17._o and_o divine_v in_o that_o place_n common_o bellar_n l._n 5._o de_fw-fr justif_n c._n 17._o though_v scot._n 1._o scotus_n bellarm._n scotus_n d._n 17._o and_o some_o other_o deny_v it_o with_o who_o bel_n also_o fall_v in_o league_n towards_o the_o end_n 7●_n bel_n pag._n 7●_n of_o this_o article_n the_o sixth_o conclusion_n be_v that_o the_o say_a condignity_n rise_v not_o of_o any_o due_a proportion_n which_o be_v in_o the_o substance_n of_o our_o work_n if_o it_o be_v consider_v in_o itself_o but_o as_o it_o be_v the_o fruit_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n move_v we_o to_o do_v it_o and_o the_o effect_n of_o god_n grace_n help_v we_o in_o do_v it_o which_o grace_n make_v we_o partaker_n as_o s._n peter_n speak_v of_o divine_a nature_n 5._o 1._o pet._n 1._o v._n 4._o coloss_n 1._o v._n 10._o 2._o thessaly_n 1._o v._n 5._o so_o dignify_v our_o work_n as_o according_a to_o s._n paul_n we_o walk_v worthy_o of_o god_n and_o become_v worthy_a of_o god_n kingdom_n and_o because_o bel_n deny_v none_o of_o these_o conclusion_n but_o the_o second_o and_o fieft_n they_o
10._o v._o 1._o call_v shadow_n of_o good_n to_o come_v and_o these_o i_o grant_v to_o be_v inferior_a to_o the_o thing_n figure_v but_o this_o make_v nothing_o against_o us._n 2._o second_o i_o deny_v that_o to_o be_v superior_a logic_n bel_n ignorant_a in_o logic_n and_o inferior_a be_v contradiction_n for_o as_o every_o logician_n know_v it_o be_v relative_a opposition_n which_o may_v agree_v to_o the_o same_o thing_n in_o different_a respect_n as_o the_o same_o soul_n as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o head_n be_v local_o superior_a to_o itself_o as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o foot_n a_o man_n as_o he_o be_v learned_a be_v inferior_a in_o value_n to_o himself_o as_o he_o be_v virtuous_a and_o a_o token_n as_o it_o be_v from_o a_o friend_n more_o worth_a they_o it_o be_v of_o itself_o and_o hereby_o appear_v the_o error_n of_o protestant_n infer_v the_o eucharist_n not_o to_o be_v christ_n because_o it_o be_v a_o figure_n or_o remembrance_n itself_o one_o thing_n may_v figure_v or_o represent_v itself_o of_o he_o for_o well_o may_v one_o thing_n represent_v itself_o as_o a_o king_n in_o a_o triumphant_a show_n may_v represent_v how_o he_o behave_v himself_o in_o battle_n and_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n as_o they_o be_v under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n which_o be_v a_o sunder_o represent_v themselves_o as_o they_o be_v a_o sunder_o in_o their_o proper_a form_n on_o the_o cross_n 3._o three_o i_o return_v bell_n argument_n upon_o himself_o figure_n must_v needs_o be_v inferior_a to_o thing_n figure_v ergo_fw-la the_o eucharist_n be_v some_o noble_a substance_n than_o bread_n the_o antecedent_n be_v his_o own_o the_o consequence_n i_o prove_v because_o the_o paschal_n lamb_n be_v a_o figure_n of_o the_o eucharist_n as_o s._n chrisostom_n s._n cyprian_n s._n 33._o s._n ghrysost_o hom_n de_fw-fr prodit_fw-la judae_fw-la tom_n 3._o s._n cyprian_n l._n de_fw-fr unit_fw-la eccles_n s._n hieron_n in_o 26._o math._n s._n august_n l._n 2._o cont_n literas_fw-la petilian_n c._n 37_o to_o 7._o s._n leo_n serm_n 7._o the_o passione_n s._n gregot_v hom_n 22._o in_o euang._n pag._n 32._o chap._n 1._o parag_v 12._o 13._o chap._n 5._o parag_n 2._o p._n 33._o hiero._n s._n austin_n s_o leo_n s._n gregory_n &_o other_o affirm_v and_o may_v be_v gather_v out_o of_o s._n paul_n say_v heb._n 10._o v._o 1_o that_o the_o law_n have_v a_o shadow_n of_o good_n to_o come_v and_o by_o christ_n institute_v the_o eucharist_n immediate_o after_o the_o eat_n of_o the_o pascal_n lamb_n whereby_o say_v s._n chrisostome_n in_o one_o table_n both_o paschal_n of_o the_o figure_n and_o verity_n be_v celebrate_v 4._o his_o second_o and_o three_o contradiction_n be_v of_o a_o great_a body_n be_v contain_v in_o a_o less_o and_o of_o christ_n body_n break_v and_o not_o break_v which_o have_v be_v answer_v before_o his_o four_o be_v that_o if_o christ_n body_n be_v make_v present_a in_o the_o eucharist_n by_o virtue_n of_o these_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n either_o 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