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A50871 The tryal and process of high-treason and doom of forfaulture against Mr. Robert Baillie of Jerviswood traitor ... Baillie, Robert, d. 1684.; Mackenzie, George, Sir, 1636-1691. 1685 (1685) Wing M208; ESTC R19066 35,663 38

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Teviotdale and Selkirk Shire would joyn with them And this is the truth as he shall answer to God Sic subscribitur Hugh Scot. Linlithgow I. P. D. HIs Majesties Advocat produc'd other Depositions emitted by Gallowshiels before the Lords of the Secret Committee whereof the Tenor follows Edinburgh the 14 of September 1684. GAllowsheils Depons that the E. of Tarras and Philiphaugh being in his House in May 1683. Discoursed of an intended rising in England and of Proposals made to Scots men to rise with them and of London in particular and that Polwort was present at that Meeting and told he was sure the Englishmen intended so and that it was Discoursed at that Meeting amongst them that it were fit to seize Berwick and Stirling and that it was talked amongst them of bringing the Duke of York to Tryal and that the King would abandon him Sic Subscribitur Hugh Scot. Perth Cancel Queensberry George Mckenzie Jo. Drummond George Mckenzie Edinburgh October 29. 1684. Sederunt Lord Chancellour Lord President Lord Secretary Lord Advocat THe Laird of Gallowsheils Prisoner in the Tolbuith of Edinburgh being Call'd and Examin'd upon Oath Depons that in the Moneth of May 1683. The E. of Tarras Hume of Polwert Elder and Laird of Philiphaugh came to the Deponents House himself being absent at his coming home they were speaking of the Security of the Protestant Religion and of a Party in England who would secure or seize the King or Duke and that if any should rise in Arms to Defend them or to rescue the King and Duke There was another Party who would rise in Arms against them it was proposed that some Countrey men should be spoken to to try their Resolutions and that the Resolutions of England should be told them to see if they would concur But the Deponent does not remember that this proposition was approven or undertaken to be done by any present nor does he remember who mannag'd the Discourse It was likewise propos'd to seize the Officers of State especially the Chancellour and Thesaurer and they said Sir John Cochran was to come to the West from England for advancement of the Design and that the Earl of Argile was to Land in the West-Highlands and to raise that Countrey Of these matters all these who were present Discoursed as of an Affair that they were agitating and wherein themselves were particularly concerned though at that time they did not conclude what their carriage should be The reason why the Deponent cannot be more particulars is because he was sometimes going out and sometimes walking up and down the Room and though the Deponent cannot be positive of the very words yet he is positive they were either these Words or Words to that purpose Sic subscribitur Hugh Scot. Perth Cancellarius Edinburgh December 23. 1684. HVgh Scot of Gallowsheils being solemnly Sworn in presence of the Justices and Assize adheres to the Depositions within and above-written in all points Sic subscribitur Hugh Scot. Linlithgow I. P. D. HIs Majesties Advocat in fortification of the former Probation adduces the Printed Copy of Mr. William Carstares Depositions emitted before the Officers of State and other Lords of Privy Council and leaves the same to the Assise and uses it as an Adminicle of Probation for though it was capitulat that he should not be made use of as a Witness yet it was agreed that the Deposition should be published and likewise produces the Principal Deposition signed by himself and the saids Lords THe Lords Justice-General Justice-Clerk and Commissioners of Justiciary admit the Paper produced as an Adminicle and refers the import thereof to the Inquest and ordains the Printed Paper as it is Collationed to be taken in and considered by the Inquest SIr William Paterson and Mr. Colin Mckenzie Clerks of His Majesties Privy Council being Interrogat if they heard Mr. William Carstares own the Depositions Read Depons they saw and heard him Swear and own the same upon Oath and they Collationed the Printed Copie with the Original formerly and now they heard it Collationed Sic subscribitur Will. Paterson Colin Mckenzie THe Deposition of Mr. William Carstares when he was Examined before the Lords of Secret Committee given in by him and renewed upon Oath upon the 22. of December 1684. in presence of the Lords of His Majesties Privy Council Edinburgh Castle September 8. 1684. MR. William Carstares being Examined upon Oath conform to the Condescention given in by him and on the Terms therein-mentioned Depons That about November or December 1682. James Stuart Brother to the Laird of Cultness wrot a Letter to him from Holland importing that if any considerable sum of Money could be procur'd from England that something of importance might be done in Scotland The which Letter the Deponent had an inclination to inform Shepherd in Abb-Church-lane Merchant in London of but before he could do it he wrot to Mr. Stuart above-nam'd to know from him if he might do it and Mr. Stuart having consented he communicat the said Letter to Mr. Shepherd who told the Deponent that he would communicat the Contents of it to some persons in England but did at that time name no body as the Deponent thinks Sometime thereafter Mr. Shepherd told the Deponent that he had communicat the Contents of the Letter above-named to Colonel Sidney and that Colonel Dunvers was present and told the Deponent that Colonel Sidney was averse from imploying the late Earl of Argile or medling with him judging him a man too much affected to the Royal Family and inclin'd to the present Church-Government yet Mr. Shepherd being put upon it by the Deponent still urg'd that one might be sent to the Earl of Argile but as Mr. Shepherd told him he was suspected upon the account of his urging so much yet afterwards he press'd without the Deponents knowledge that the Deponent being to go to Holland however might have some Commission to the Earl of Argile which he having inform'd the Deponent of the Deponent told him that he himself would not be concern'd but if they would send another he would introduce him but nothing of this was done upon which the Deponent went over without any Commission from any body to Holland never meeting with James Stuart above-nam'd He was introduc'd to the Earl of Argile with whom he had never before convers'd and did there Discourse what had past betwixt Mr. Shepherd and him and particularly about remitting of Money to the said Earl from England of which the said Mr. Stuart had written to the Deponent namely of 30000 pounds Sterling and of the raising of 1000 Horse and Dragoons and the securing the Castle of Edinburgh as a matter of the greatest importance The method of doing this was propos'd by the Deponent to be one hour or thereby after the relieving of the Guards But the Earl did not relish this Proposition as dangerous and that the Castles would fall of consequence after the Work abroad was done James
Stuart was of the Deponents Opinion for seizing the Castle because it would secure Edinburgh the Magazins and Arms as to the 1000 Horse and Dragoons My Lord Argile was of Opinion that without them nothing was to be done and that if that number were rais'd in England to the said Earl he would come into Scotland with them and that there being so few Horse and Dragoons to meet them he judg'd he might get the Countrey without trouble having such a standing Body for their Friends to Rendezvous to and the said Earl said he could show the Deponent the conventient places for Landing if he understood and as the Deponent remembers where the Ships could attend The Deponent remembers not the names of the places The Deponent spoke to the Lord Stairs but cannot be positive that he nam'd the Affair to him but found him shy but the Earl of Argile told him he thought Stairs might be gain'd to them And that the Earl of Lowdoun being a man of good Reason and disobliged would have great influence upon the Countrey and recommended the Deponent to Major Holms with whom the Deponent had some acquaintance before and had brought over a Letter from him to the Earl of Argyle but the Deponent had not then communicate any thing to the said Holms James Steuart laid down a way of correspondence by Cyphers and false Names and sent them over to Holms and the Deponent for their use which Cyphers and Names are now in the hands of His Majesties Officers as the Deponent supposes and did desire the Deponent earnestly to propose the 30000. pound Sterling above-named to the party in England and did not propose any less for as the Earl told the Deponent he had particularly calculate the Expence for Arms Ammunition c. But James Steuart said that if some less could be had the Earl would content himself if better might not be but the Earl always said that there was nothing to be done without the body of Horse and Dragoons above-mentioned During the time of the Deponent his abode in Holland tho he had several Letters from Shepard yet there was no satisfactory account till some time after the Deponent parted from the Earl of Argyle and was making for a Ship at Rotterdam to transport himself to England James Steuart wrot to him that there was hopes of the Money The next day after the Deponent came to England he met with Sir John Cochran who with Commissar Monro and Jerviswood was at London before he came over and depons that he knows not the account of their coming more then for the perfecting the Transaction about Carolina and having acquainted Sir John Cochran with the Earls demands of the 30000 pound Sterling and the 1000. Horse and Dragoons Sir John carried him to the Lord Russel to whom the Deponent proposed the affair but being an absolute Stranger to the Deponent had no return from him at that time but afterwards having met him accidently at Mr. Shepards house where he the Lord Bussel had come to speak to Shepard about the Money abovenamed as Mr. Shepard told the Deponent The Deponent when they were done speaking desired to speak to the Lord Russel which the Lord Russel did and having reiterate the former Proposition for the 30000. pound Sterling and the 1000. Horse and Dragoons he the Lord Russel told the Deponent they could not get so much raised at the time but if they had 10000. pound to begin that would draw People in and when they were once in they would soon be brought to more but as for the 1000. Horse and Dragoons he could say nothing at the present for that behoved to be concerted upon the Borders The Deponent made the same proposal to Mr. Ferguson who was much concerned in the Affair and zealous for the promoving of it This Mr. Ferguson had in October or November before as the Deponent remembers in a Conversation with the Deponent in Cheap-fide or the Street somewhere thereabout said that for the saving of innocent Blood it would be necessary to cut off a few insinuating the King and Duke but cannot be positive whether he named them or not to which the Deponent said that 's work for our wild People in Scotland my Conscience does not serve me for such things after which the Deponent had never any particular discourse with Ferguson as to that matter but as to the other Affair Ferguson told the Deponent that he was doing what he could to get it effectuate as particularly that he spoke to one Major Wildman who is not of the Deponent his acquaintance Ferguson blamed always Sidney as driving designs of his own The Deponent met twice or thrice with the Lord Melvil Sir John Cochran Jerviswood Commissar Monro the two Cessnocks Mongomery of Langshaw and one Mr. Veitch where they discoursed of Money to be sent to Argyle in order to the carrying on the Affair and tho he cannot be positive the Affair was named yet it was understood by himself and as he conceives by all present to be for rising in Arms for rectifying the Government Commissary Monro Lord Melvil and the two Cessnocks were against medling with the English because they judged them men that would talk and would not do but were more inclined to do something by themselves if it could be done The Lord Melvil thought every thing hazardous and therefore the Deponent cannot say he was positive in any thing but was most inclined to have the Duke of Monmouth to head them in Scotland of which no particular method was laid down Jerviswood the Deponent and Mr. Veitch were for taking Money at one of these Meetings It was resolved that Mr. Martin late Clerk to the Justice Court should be sent to Scotland to desire their Friends to hinder the Countrey from Rising or taking rash Resolutions upon the account of the Council till they should see how matters went in England The said Martin did go at the Charges of the Gentlemen of the Meeting and was directed to the Laird of Polwart and Torwoodlie who sent back word that it would not be found so easie a matter to get the Gentrie of Scotland to concur But afterwards in a Letter to Commissar Monro Polwart wrot that the Countrey was readier to concur than they had imagined or something to that purpose The Deponent as above-said having brought over a Key from Holland to serve himself and Major Holms he remembers not that ever he had an exact Copy of it but that sometimes the one sometimes the other keeped It and so it chanced to be in his custody when a Letter from the Earl of Argyle came to Major Holms intimating that he would joyn with the Duke of Monmouth and follow his measures or obey his Directions This Mr. Veitch thought fit to communicate to the Duke of Monmouth and for the Understanding of it was brought to the Deponent and he gave the Key to Mr. Veitch who as the Deponent was informed was