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A56600 An answer to a book, spread abroad by the Romish priests, intituled, The touchstone of the reformed Gospel wherein the true doctrine of the Church of England, and many texts of the Holy Scripture are faithfully explained / by the Right Reverend Father in God, Symon, Lord Bishop of Ely. Patrick, Simon, 1626-1707. 1692 (1692) Wing P745; ESTC R10288 116,883 290

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prove_v the_o saint_n know_v what_o be_v do_v here_o when_o it_o be_v evident_a our_o saviour_n do_v not_o speak_v of_o moses_n his_o person_n but_o of_o his_o write_n or_o law_n as_o he_o himself_o can_v interpret_v it_o in_o the_o forego_n place_n 10._o xii_o rev._n 10._o and_o who_o for_o shame_n to_o use_v his_o own_o word_n but_o such_o a_o man_n as_o he_o will_v quote_v the_o xii_o rev._n 10._o to_o prove_v the_o saint_n must_v know_v what_o be_v do_v on_o earth_n because_o the_o devil_n do_v who_o business_n it_o be_v to_o go_v to_o and_o fro_o which_o the_o saint_n do_v not_o while_o he_o seek_v who_o he_o may_v devour_v and_o to_o prove_v likewise_o the_o devil_n
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any_o infant_n in_o his_o parish_n to_o die_v without_o baptism_n be_v inform_v of_o its_o weakness_n and_o danger_n of_o death_n and_o desire_v to_o come_v and_o baptize_v the_o same_o and_o be_v not_o to_o be_v restore_v till_o he_o acknowledge_v his_o fault_n and_o promise_v before_o his_o ordinary_n that_o he_o will_v not_o witting_o incur_v the_o like_a again_o but_o we_o do_v not_o tie_v god_n to_o those_o mean_n to_o the_o use_n of_o which_o he_o have_v tie_v we_o and_o therefore_o do_v believe_v that_o by_o his_o infinite_a grace_n and_o mercy_n those_o infant_n may_v be_v save_v who_o without_o their_o own_o fault_n die_v unbaptise_v and_o this_o be_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n as_o appear_v from_o socrates_n 22._o socrates_n l._n v._n hist_o c._n 22._o who_o say_v in_o thessaly_n they_o baptize_v only_o at_o easter_n by_o which_o mean_v many_o die_v unbaptise_v and_o by_o a_o decree_n of_o pope_n leo_n i._n which_o show_v it_o be_v a_o universal_a custom_n 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by_o the_o sole_a faith_n of_o their_o parent_n so_o s._n bernard_n epist_n 77._o ad_fw-la hug._n de_fw-fr s._n vict._n and_o cajetan_n in_o 3._o part_n thom._n q._n 68_o from_o whence_o we_o may_v gather_v that_o even_o this_o notion_n of_o child_n be_v save_v by_o their_o parent_n faith_n without_o baptism_n be_v no_o more_o our_o opinion_n than_o it_o be_v they_o some_o say_v so_o among_o we_o and_o so_o do_v some_o among_o they_o matter_n therefore_o be_v thus_o state_v all_o his_o text_n be_v already_o answer_v we_o say_v the_o very_a same_o our_o saviour_n do_v iii_o joh._n 5._o 5._o iii_o joh._n 5._o in_o the_o very_a entrance_n of_o our_o office_n of_o baptism_n where_o we_o make_v it_o as_o a_o reason_n why_o the_o church_n shall_v pray_v that_o god_n will_v grant_v to_o the_o child_n that_o thing_n which_o by_o nature_n he_o can_v have_v etc._n etc._n but_o though_o this_o be_v the_o ordinary_a way_n we_o dare_v not_o say_v it_o be_v the_o only_a god_n grace_n many_o of_o themselves_o acknowledge_v supply_v the_o want_n of_o baptism_n in_o extraordinary_a case_n thus_o even_o lorinus_n a_o jesuit_n in_o x._o act._n 44._o and_o he_o allege_v st._n austin_n for_o it_o who_o be_v very_o rigid_a in_o this_o point_n that_o the_o invisible_a sanctification_n sometime_o be_v sufficient_a without_o the_o visible_a sacrament_n when_o not_o by_o contempt_n of_o religion_n but_o by_o mere_a necessity_n they_o be_v deprive_v of_o baptism_n and_o thus_o peter_n lombard_n 2._o lombard_n l._n iu._n distin_n 4._o c._n 2._o understand_v this_o text_n it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o those_o who_o can_v be_v baptize_v and_o contemn_v it_o iii_o tit._n 5._o prove_v no_o more_o but_o that_o baptism_n be_v the_o ordinary_a way_n and_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v neglect_v where_o it_o can_v be_v have_v from_o xvi_o mark_v 16._o he_o conclude_v peremptory_o that_o child_n must_v be_v baptise_a or_o not_o save_v 16._o xvi_o mark_v 16._o because_o they_o can_v believe_v which_o be_v to_o make_v baptism_n more_o necessary_a than_o belief_n whereas_o they_o can_v be_v baptize_v but_o upon_o a_o supposition_n of_o belief_n as_o his_o own_o church_n acknowledge_v in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n 14._o trent_n sess_n vii_o can._n 14._o child_n want_v faith_n in_o the_o first_o act_n be_v baptize_v in_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o the_o true_a way_n of_o argue_v from_o this_o place_n be_v that_o as_o our_o lord_n say_v he_o that_o believe_v and_o be_v baptize_v shall_v be_v save_v so_o he_o will_v have_v say_v have_v he_o think_v baptism_n absolute_o necessary_a he_o that_o believe_v not_o and_o be_v not_o baptize_v shall_v be_v damn_v but_o he_o only_o say_v he_o that_o believe_v not_o shall_v be_v damn_v which_o make_v faith_n only_o absolute_o necessary_a and_o i_o show_v before_o there_o be_v those_o in_o his_o own_o church_n who_o think_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o parent_n sufficient_a for_o this_o purpose_n and_o thus_o the_o 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