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A08891 The fal of Babel By the confusion of tongues directly proving against the Papists of this, and former ages; that a view of their writings, and bookes being taken; cannot be discerned by any man living, what they would say, or how be vnderstoode, in the question of the sacrifice of the masse, the reall presence or transubstantiation, but in explaning their mindes they fall vpon such termes, as the Protestants vse and allow. Further in the question of the Popes supremacy is shevved, how they abuse an authority of the auncient father St. Cyprian, a canon of the I Niceene counsell, and the ecclesiastical historie of Socrates, and Sozomen. And lastly is set downe a briefe of the sucession of Popes in the sea of Rome for these 1600 yeeres togither; ... By Iohn Panke. Panke, John. 1608 (1608) STC 19171; ESTC S102341 167,339 204

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initio_fw-la non_fw-la quidem_fw-la corpus_fw-la suum_fw-la sed_fw-la panem_fw-la velut_fw-la materiam_fw-la &_o elementum_fw-la &c._n &c._n saunders_n ibid._n fol_z 658._o 659._o he_o break_v bread_n they_o the_o real_a body_n be_v not_o there_o not_o his_o body_n but_o bread_n as_o it_o be_v a_o matter_n &_o element_n whereunto_o his_o word_n be_v to_o be_v join_v that_o it_o may_v be_v make_v a_o sacrament_n do_v he_o not_o speak_v of_o the_o bread_n then_o when_o he_o say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n furthermore_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o body_n &_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v in_o the_o eucharist_n although_o it_o be_v neither_o eat_v nor_o drunken_a he_o begin_v with_o s._n paul_n who_o say_v 1._o cor._n 10._o the_o cup_n of_o blessing_n which_o we_o bless_v be_v it_o not_o a_o partake_n of_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o bread_n which_o we_o break_v be_v it_o not_o the_o participation_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o infer_v we_o break_v the_o bread_n 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