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A43716 Patro-scholastiko-dikaiƍsis, or, A justification of the fathers and the schoolmen shewing, that they are not self-condemned for denying the positivity of sin. Being an answer to so much of Mr. Tho. Pierce's book, called Autokatakrisis, as doth relate to the foresaid opinion. By Hen: Hickman, fellow of Magdalene Colledge, Oxon. Hickman, Henry, d. 1692. 1659 (1659) Wing H1911A; ESTC R217506 59,554 166

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