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now_o deny_v it_o which_o show_v that_o he_o believe_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o church_n not_o to_o have_v be_v always_o the_o same_o about_o it_o but_o other_o speak_v out_o as_o gregory_z de_fw-fr valentia_n suarez_n filliucius_n and_o tanner_n who_o say_v absolute_o it_o be_v now_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n to_o hold_v chrism_n to_o be_v essential_a to_o confirmation_n and_o that_o it_o be_v now_o not_o only_o erroneous_a but_o heretical_a to_o deny_v it_o their_o testimony_n be_v at_o large_a produce_v by_o petrus_n aurelius_n or_o the_o famous_a abbot_n of_o s._n cyran_n and_o even_o he_o grant_v it_o to_o be_v heresy_n since_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n 567._o but_o he_o yield_v that_o alensis_n bonaventure_n and_o the_o vitriâ—co_n all_o hold_v that_o opinion_n which_o be_v make_v heresy_n by_o it_o from_o whence_o it_o follow_v that_o there_o have_v be_v a_o change_n in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n about_o confirmation_n by_o chrism_n for_o if_o it_o be_v 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a_o ingenuous_a confession_n but_o his_o adversary_n take_v 6â—_n this_o advantage_n from_o it_o that_o then_o the_o sacrament_n itself_o 5â—7_n must_v â—e_v change_v if_o both_o matter_n and_o form_n be_v and_o then_o the_o church_n must_v be_v a_o very_a unfaithful_a keeper_n of_o tradition_n which_o i_o think_v be_v unanswerable_a suarez_n propose_v the_o objection_n 5._o fair_o both_o as_o to_o the_o matter_n and_o form_n of_o this_o sacrament_n that_o we_o read_v nothing_o of_o they_o in_o scripture_n and_o tradition_n be_v very_o various_a about_o they_o but_o his_o answer_n be_v very_o insufficient_a viz._n that_o though_o it_o be_v not_o in_o scripture_n yet_o they_o have_v they_o by_o tradition_n from_o the_o apostle_n now_o that_o be_v the_o very_a thing_n which_o sirmondus_n disprove_v and_o show_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v clear_o go_v off_o from_o tradition_n here_o both_o as_o to_o matter_n and_o form._n of_o order_n i_o proceed_v to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o order_n it_o it_o impossible_a for_o those_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o prove_v this_o a_o true_a and_o proper_a sacrament_n on_o their_o own_o ground_n for_o they_o assert_v that_o such_o a_o one_o must_v have_v matter_n and_o form_n appoint_v by_o christ_n but_o that_o which_o they_o account_v the_o matter_n and_o form_n of_o order_n be_v neither_o of_o they_o of_o christ_n institution_n the_o council_n of_o florence_n they_o say_v have_v declare_v uniâ—nis_fw-la both_o the_o matter_n be_v that_o by_o the_o delivery_n whereof_o the_o order_n be_v confer_v as_o that_o of_o priesthood_n by_o the_o delivery_n of_o the_o chalice_n with_o the_o wine_n and_o the_o paten_n with_o the_o bread_n and_o the_o form_n be_v accipe_fw-la potestatem_fw-la offerendi_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la pro_fw-la vivis_fw-la &_o mortuis_fw-la now_o if_o neither_o of_o these_o be_v own_v by_o themselves_o to_o have_v be_v appoint_v by_o christ_n than_o it_o necessary_o follow_v that_o they_o can_v hold_v this_o to_o be_v a_o true_a and_o proper_a sacrament_n imposition_n of_o hand_n they_o grant_v be_v use_v by_o the_o apostle_n and_o still_o continue_v in_o the_o christian_a church_n and_o bellarmin_n confess_v 9_o that_o nothing_o else_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o external_a symbol_n in_o this_o sacrament_n and_o other_o be_v force_v to_o say_v that_o christ_n have_v not_o determine_v the_o matter_n and_o form_n of_o this_o sacrament_n particular_o but_o have_v leave_v a_o latitude_n in_o it_o for_o the_o church_n to_o determine_v it_o which_o in_o my_o opinion_n be_v clear_a give_v up_o the_o cause_n as_o to_o this_o sacrament_n it_o be_v observe_v by_o arcudius_n that_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n 4._o do_v not_o declare_v the_o particular_a matter_n and_o form_n of_o this_o sacrament_n but_o only_o in_o general_n that_o it_o be_v perform_v by_o word_n and_o external_a sign_n sess._n 23._o c._n 3._o from_o whence_o he_o infer_v that_o the_o outward_a sign_n be_v leave_v to_o the_o church_n determination_n and_o he_o say_v that_o christ_n do_v particular_o appoint_v the_o matter_n and_o form_n of_o some_o sacrament_n as_o of_o baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o extreme_a unction_n but_o not_o of_o other_o and_o therefore_o in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o order_n he_o say_v christ_n determine_v no_o more_o but_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v convey_v by_o some_o visible_a sign_n and_o so_o it_o may_v be_v either_o by_o the_o deliver_v the_o vessel_n or_o by_o the_o imposition_n of_o hand_n or_o both_o but_o we_o be_v to_o consider_v that_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n be_v receive_v by_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n and_o that_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o reconcile_v this_o doctrine_n with_o the_o general_a definition_n of_o a_o sacrament_n by_o the_o roman_a catechism_n viz._n that_o it_o be_v a_o sensible_a thing_n which_o by_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n have_v a_o power_n of_o cause_v as_o well_o as_o signify_v grace_n which_o imply_v that_o the_o external_a sign_n which_o convey_v grace_n must_v be_v appoint_v by_o the_o author_n of_o the_o sacrament_n itself_o or_o else_o the_o church_n must_v have_v power_n to_o annex_v divine_a grace_n to_o its_o own_o appointment_n but_o here_o lie_v the_o main_a difficulty_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v alter_v both_o matter_n and_o form_n of_o this_o sacrament_n from_o the_o primitive_a institution_n and_o yet_o it_o dare_v not_o disallow_v the_o ordination_n make_v without_o they_o as_o be_v notorious_a in_o the_o case_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n and_o therefore_o they_o have_v be_v force_v to_o allow_v this_o latitude_n as_o to_o the_o matter_n and_o form_n of_o this_o sacrament_n although_o such_o a_o allowance_n do_v real_o overthrow_v its_o be_v a_o true_a and_o proper_a sacrament_n on_o their_o own_o ground_n yet_o this_o doctrine_n have_v very_o much_o prevail_v of_o late_a among_o their_o chief_a writer_n cardinal_n lugo_n confess_v 85._o that_o of_o old_a priesthood_n be_v confer_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n with_o suitable_a word_n and_o he_o see_v it_o himself_o so_o do_v at_o rome_n without_o deliver_v the_o vessel_n by_o catholic_n greek_n bishop_n he_o say_v far_a that_o the_o father_n and_o council_n 92._o be_v so_o plain_a for_o the_o confer_v priesthood_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n that_o no_o one_o can_v deny_v it_o but_o yet_o he_o must_v justify_v the_o roman_a church_n in_o assume_v new_a matter_n and_o form_n which_o he_o do_v by_o assert_v that_o christ_n leave_v the_o church_n at_o liberty_n as_o to_o they_o nicol._n ysambertus_n debate_v the_o point_n at_o large_a and_o his_o resolution_n of_o it_o be_v that_o christ_n determine_v only_o the_o general_a 6._o matter_n but_o the_o particular_a sign_n be_v leave_v to_o the_o church_n and_o he_o prove_v by_o induction_n that_o the_o church_n have_v appoint_v the_o external_a sign_n in_o this_o sacrament_n and_o as_o to_o the_o order_n of_o priesthood_n he_o prove_v that_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v of_o old_a a_o essential_a part_n of_o it_o but_o now_o it_o be_v only_o accidental_a franciscus_n hallier_n confess_v the_o matter_n of_o this_o sacrament_n 1._o to_o have_v be_v different_a in_o different_a time_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o many_o age_n after_o hardly_o any_o other_o can_v be_v find_v but_o imposition_n of_o hand_n as_o he_o prove_v from_o scripture_n and_o father_n he_o carry_v his_o proof_n down_o as_o low_a as_o the_o synod_n of_o aken_n in_o the_o time_n of_o ludovicus_n pius_n and_o the_o council_n of_o mâ—aux_n a._n d._n 845._o but_o afterward_o he_o say_v that_o by_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n and_o the_o common_a 439._o opinion_n of_o their_o divine_n the_o delivery_n of_o the_o vessel_n be_v the_o essential_a matter_n of_o this_o sacrament_n here_o we_o find_v a_o plain_a change_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o a_o sacrament_n own_a after_o the_o continuance_n of_o
their_o own_o as_o the_o more_o probable_a opinion_n but_o say_v he_o after_o the_o decree_n of_o eugenius_n and_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n it_o be_v heretical_a gregory_n de_fw-fr valentia_n say_v the_o same_o thing_n only_o he_o add_v that_o the_o master_n of_o the_o sentence_n contradict_v himself_o so_o 5._o certain_a a_o deliverer_n be_v he_o of_o the_o church_n tradition_n and_o wonder_n that_o soto_n shall_v not_o find_v it_o plain_o enough_o in_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n and_o trent_n that_o a_o true_a sacrament_n must_v confer_v grace_n maldonat_n yield_v that_o durandus_fw-la and_o the_o canonist_n deny_v matrimony_n to_o be_v a_o proper_a sacrament_n but_o he_o call_v 1._o they_o catholic_n imprudent_o err_v bellaâ—min_n deny_v it_o not_o but_o use_v a_o disingenuous_a shift_n 5._o about_o durandus_fw-la and_o will_v bring_v it_o to_o a_o logical_a nicety_n whereas_o 〈◊〉_d very_a argument_n he_o pretend_v to_o answer_v shâ—w_o plâ—â—â—â—y_o that_o he_o deny_v this_o to_o be_v a_o true_a and_o proper_a sacrament_n but_o he_o offer_v something_o considerable_a about_o the_o canonist_n if_o it_o will_v hold_v 1._o that_o they_o be_v but_o a_o few_o and_o for_o this_o he_o quote_v navarr_n that_o the_o common_a opinion_n be_v against_o they_o for_o 20._o which_o he_o mention_n the_o rubric_n de_fw-fr spons_fw-la but_o i_o can_v find_v nothing_o like_o it_o through_o the_o whole_a title_n and_o it_o be_v not_o at_o all_o probable_a that_o such_o man_n as_o hostiensis_n and_o the_o glosser_n shall_v be_v ignorant_a of_o or_o oppose_v the_o common_a opinion_n hostiensis_n say_v plain_o that_o grace_n be_v not_o confer_v by_o matrimony_n 7._o and_o never_o once_o mention_n any_o opinion_n among_o they_o against_o it_o and_o the_o glosser_n upon_o gratian_n affirm_v it_o several_a time_n caus._n 32._o q._n 2_o c._n honorantur_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la sacramento_n non_fw-la confertur_fw-la gratia_n spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la sicut_fw-la in_o aliis_fw-la the_o roman_a corrector_n can_v not_o bear_v this_o and_o say_v in_o the_o margin_n immo_fw-la confert_fw-la this_o be_v plain_a contradict_v but_o how_o be_v it_o prove_v from_o the_o canon_n law_n they_o refer_v to_o dist._n 23._o c._n his_o igitur_fw-la v_o pro_fw-la beneficiis_fw-la thither_o upon_o their_o authority_n i_o go_v and_o there_o i_o find_v the_o very_a same_o thing_n say_v and_o in_o the_o same_o word_n and_o it_o be_v give_v as_o a_o reason_n why_o simony_n can_v be_v commit_v in_o matrimony_n as_o in_o other_o sacrament_n and_o in_o both_o place_n we_o be_v refer_v to_o 32_o q._n 2._o c._n connubia_fw-la and_o to_o 1._o q._n 1._o c._n quicquid_fw-la invisibilis_fw-la the_o former_a be_v not_o very_o favourable_a to_o the_o grace_n of_o matrimony_n and_o in_o the_o latter_a the_o gloss_n be_v yet_o more_o plain_a if_o it_o be_v possible_a nota_fw-la conjugium_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la de_fw-fr his_o sacramentis_fw-la quae_fw-la consotationem_fw-la coelestibus_fw-la gratiâ—_n tribuunt_fw-la there_o the_o corrector_n fair_o refer_v we_o to_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n which_o have_v decree_v the_o contrary_a but_o that_o be_v not_o to_o our_o business_n but_o whether_o the_o canonist_n own_v this_o or_o not_o and_o there_o it_o follow_v that_o other_o sacrament_n do_v so_o signify_v as_o to_o convey_v this_o bare_o signify_v so_o that_o i_o think_v bellarmin_n have_v as_o good_a have_v give_v up_o the_o canonist_n as_o to_o make_v so_o lame_a a_o defence_n of_o they_o 2._o he_o say_v we_o be_v not_o to_o rely_v on_o the_o canonist_n for_o these_o 3._o thing_n but_o on_o the_o divine_n but_o durandâ—_n say_v the_o canonist_n can_v not_o be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n for_o some_o of_o they_o be_v cardinal_n and_o he_o give_v a_o better_a reason_n viz._n that_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v to_o be_v see_v in_o the_o decretal_n for_o therefore_o marriage_n be_v own_v to_o be_v a_o sacrament_n in_o 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