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A56148 A catalogue of such testimonies in all ages as plainly evidence bishops and presbyters to be both one, equall and the same ... with a briefe answer to the objections out of antiquity, that seeme to the contrary. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1641 (1641) Wing P3922; ESTC S122412 42,609 43

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in him passing it over in silence and expresly averr●ing it thēselves as a truth Wherefore no ancient Counsell or Author whatsoever but Epiphanius branding it either for an heresie or Error I see not well how it should be so esteemed Secondly this hath been the constant received Doctrine both of Christ and his Apostles of all the Fathers and learned Orthodoxe writers in all ages as the precedent Catalogue witnesseth therefore no Heresie or Error as Epiphanius and some few of late out of him alone have rashly deemed it Thirdly it cannot properly be called an Heresie because the superiority of Bishops over other Ministers by a d●vine institution as no fundamentall point of faith neither hath it any foundation at all in Scripture as I have elsewhere manifested Therefo●e it is most absurd to call it an heresie Fourthly Epipha●ius there condemnes Aerius as much for reprehending and censuring Prayer for the dead as for affirming Bishops and Presbiters to bee equall But this our Prelates must confesse unlesse they renounce this Doctrine of our Church was no Error or Heresie in Aerius but rather in Epiphanius why not therefore the other Fifthly Epiphanius himselfe doth not conde●ne A●rius his opinion in this particular for an Hereticko but onely as a fond opinion as his words E● quod tota res stu●titiae plena est apud prudentes manifestum est Sixthly St. Hierom● Nazia●zen Basill Sedulius Ambrose Chrisostome and Augustine taught the same Doctrine that Aerius did at or about the same time but they were never taxed of Heresie or Error for it either then or since why then should A●rius only be blamed who argues just as Hierome doth producing the same Sc●ipture to prove his assertion as Hierom● hath done in his Epistle to Evagrius on Tit. 1. Seventhly Epiphanius his refutations of Aerius his Arguments and opinion is very ridiculous false and absurd For first he saith that Presbiters then had not the power of ordination neither did they use to lay on hands in the election and Ordination of Ministers which is a meere falshood as Hierom in Soph. c. ● with the ●th Counsell of Carthage witnes and I have elsewhere manifested at large Secondly he saith that Presbiters had no voice in the Election of Bishops and Ministers which is (s) contrary to all Antiquities extant and a most palpable untruth Thirdly he saith that there were then more Bishops then Presbiters and men sufficient worthy enough to be made Bishops but no● Presbyters and therfore the Apostle writing to the Philippians and others makes mention only of Bishops not of Presbyters because they had then Bishops but not Presbyters A miserable ridiculous answer which subverts that he contends for and constitutes Bishops without any Ministers under their command or jurisdiction● whence it will necessarily follow That seeing the Apostles instituted Bishops without Ministers under them a●d more Bishops then Presbiters there ought now to bee no Presbiters subject to Bishops but Bishops to be pl●ced in every church● without any Ministers under ●hem but Deacons only and more Bi●hops then Ministers which I presume the Lordly Prelates will not grant for this would over-turne not only their Lordships but their ●ioces●e and Episcopalities Fourthly he saith that the Apo●●les first constituted Bishops onely in the Church with●ut Elders and then they afterwards elected Elders as they f●und them worthy which is contrary to St● t Ierome and ●ll antiquity averring that Elders were first ordained in euery Church 〈◊〉 14● 23 Tit. 1 5 and that they afterward elected a Bishop out of themselves Fifthly he saith that the Apostles used to write to the Bishops of one Church in the plurall number when there was but one Bishop there which is very improb●ble yea contrary of all other expositors on ●hil ● 1. Tit. 1 5 7 Act. 20 17 2● Sixthly he peremptorily determines Timothy to be a Bishop which I have elsewhere proved false and f●om this false ground would prove Bishops and Presbiters distinct Seventhly he interprets an Elder in the 1 Tim. 5.1 to be a Presbiter which most Fathers else expound only to be an ancient man Eightly he would prove Timothy a Bishop and Bishops to be Superior too and distinct from Presbiters because Paul exhorts him not to rebuke an Elder but to exhort him as a Father and not to receive an accusation against an Elder but under two or three witnesses which are grosse inconsequence as I have else where manifested so that Epiphanius whilst he goes about to prove Aerius his assertion still of folly steps into many Errors follies and absurdities himselfe as Bellarmine is inforced to confesse though desirous to make the best of it In a word then as all the forecited Authors in generall ●o in speciall Chemnitius examen Concilij Tridentini part 4. de Ordinis ●acramento Danaus in Augustium de haresibus c. 53 Theodorus Bibliander in Chronagr Bucanus l●corum com c 32 Magdeburgenses cent ● c. 5. de haresibus Beza de diversis ministorum gradibus c 22. Bersomus Bucerus de Gubernation● Ecclesia p 2●● to 29● Bishop Io●●ll defence of the Apologie part 2 c. 9. divis 1. p 196 202. Doctor Humphry conf●tat Puritan● Papismi ad Rat 3 p 261.262 Doctor VV●itake● c●ntr Duraum l 6. sect ●● ad ratio 10 Campiani Resp. Contr. lib. ● qu. 5. c. 7. Doctor Fulke and Mr. Cartwright confutation of the Remish Testament Phil. 1.1 Bishop Bridges in his defence of the Princes Supremacy p. 359. Doctor VVill●t Synopsis Papismi contr. 8. qu. 3. part 2. Dr. Reynolds in his Letter to Sir Francis Knolls and to Michael Medina a Papist●de Sacr. hom Orig. l. 1● c. 5. Doctor Armes in his Bellarminnus enarvatus Tom. 2. l 3 c 4. to omit others do all joyntly acquit A●●ius both ●rō the guilt of Heresie or Error in thi● very point and taxe Epiphanius for censuring him without the judgement of a Synod or of the Church condemning his answers to Aerius his reasons as notoriously absurd impertinent yea as foolish Childis● worthy to be hissed and derided I shall therfore conclude as doth our learned w Whittaker in this case verily if to condemne prayers for the dead and to equ●ll Presbiters● with Bishops be hereticall Nihil Catholicum esse potest Nothing can be Catholicke so farre as it from being either an Heresie or Error as o●r absurd Prelates and their Sycophants Pretend If they object the Authority of x Ignatius that he advanceth Bishops above Presbyters commanding them to obey the Bishops as the Apostles obeyed Christ and willing the people to be subject to their Bishops as to God and Christ and to their Elders as to Christs Apostl●s therfore in his daies Bishops were Superior to Presbiters To this I answer that these Epistles of Ignatius are false and spurious as many y of our learned men have proved at large therefore of no Authority Secondly it is
A CATALOGVE OF SVCH TESTIMONIES IN ALL AGES AS PLAINLY EVIDENCE BISHOPS AND PRESBYTERS TO BE BOTH ONE EQUALL AND THE SAME IN IURISDICTION Office Dignity Order and degree by divine Law and institution and their disparity to be a meere humane ordinance long after the Apostles times And that the name of a Bishop is onely a Title of Ministration not Dominion of Labour not of Honour of Humility not of Prelacy of painfullnesse not of Lordlinesse with a Briefe Answer to the Objections out of Antiquity that seeme to the contrary Printed in the Yeere 1641. The EPISTLE to the READER Christian Reader THere is nothing more fr●quent in the mouthes of our Lording Prelates and their Flatterers then to vaunt That their Hierarchie and Episcopall S●periority over other Ministers is by divine Right and Institution and that all Antiquity from Christs till Calvins dayes and all learned men except a despicable small number of Factious Puritans as they term them suffragate to this Conclusion This was the more then thrasonicall b●ast of Dr. La●d Arch-prelate of Canterbury and some others not onely at the Censure of Dr. Layton in the Star-chamber and Dr. Bastwicke in the High-Commission some few yeares past but likewise at the late Censure of Dr. Bastwicke Mr. Burton and Mr. Prynne in the Star-chamber Iune 14. 1637. where in his learned Speech since Printed by speciall command through his own underhand procurement he thus magisterially determines pag. 6 7. This I will say he might have done well to have proved it first but that his Ipse dixit only is now an O●acle and abide by it That the calling of Bishops to wit Archbishops and D●ocaesans superiour to and distinct from Pres●yters else his Speech is not onely idle but impertinent is Iure divino though not all adjuncts to their callings he should have done well to have specifie● what adjuncts in particular● And I say further that from the Apostles times in all ages in all places the Church of Christ was governed by Bishops to wit Diocaesan Bishops like to our Prelates now which he will prove at Graecas Calendas And Lay-Elders never heard of till Calvins new-fangled devise at Geneva To disprove which fabulous assertion I have not only particularly encountred it in the Unbishoping of Timothy and Titus to which no Answere yet hath been returned by this Over-confident Boaster or his Champions though specially challenged to Answer it but likewise by way ef Supplement to that Trea●ise drawn up this ensuing Catalogue which I challenge his Arch-grace with his brother Prelates Doctors Proctors Parasites to encounter with as many contrary Authorities if they can ● wherby both learned and illiterate may with ease discern that both by divine Institution the suffrages of Fathers Councels forraigne and domestick writers of all sorts aswell Papists as Protestants and the resolution of the Church and State of England in Convocation and Parliament Bishops and Presbyters are but one and the sam● in point of Office and Iurisdiction and that the Superiority of Bishops over other Ministers is a meer humane Institution long after the Apostles dayes introduced partly by custome partly by the Bishops owne insensible incroachme●ts upon their fellow brethren but principally by the grants connivances or indowments of Christian Princes destitute of any divine foundation to support it I confesse in the * Councel of Trent it was much debated among the Popish Prelates and Divines there present Whether Bishops were by divine Ordination Superiour to Priests But the Councel being divided in opinion left the Controversie undetermined Those Bishops and Divines who held the affirmative produced nothing out of Scripture or solid Antiquity to justifie their opinions worthy answere but that Aerius was deemed an Heretick for affirming the contrary which I have ●ere disproved ye● * Michael of Medina who alleageth this of Aerius was so ingenious to conf●sse that Hierome Austin and some others of the Fathers as Ambrose Sedulius Primasius Chrysostomus Theodoret Oecumenius did fall into Aërius heresie in this point it being no wonder that they did so because the matter was not cleare in all points This his boldnesse to say that Hierome and Austin did savour of Haeresie gave great scandall but h● insisted the more upon it The Doctors saith the History were equally divided into two opinions in this point And when this * Article was propounded in this Romish Councel That the Bishops are instituted by Christ and are Superiour to Priests de Iure divino The Legates with others answered that the Lutherans and Heretiques having affirmed that a Bishop and a Priest is the sam● thing * putting no difference between a Bishop a Priest but by humane constitution and affirming that the Superiority of Bishops was first by custom and afterwards by Ecclesiasticall constitution for which they ci●e the Augustane Confession made by the German Churches it was fit to declare that a Bishop is Superiour but that it was not necessary to say qu● jure nor by whom a Bishop is instituted From whence it appeares clearly That halfe or more of these Trent Fathers with all the Lutherans and Protestant Churches at that time were cleare of opinion That Prelates Episcopacy is not Iure divino and those who peruse that History and * B●llarmine may at ●irst discerne that all our Prelates arguments and Authorities now produced to maintaine their Episcopall Iurisdiction to be divine are taken verbatim from these Popish Fathers of Trent who maintain their assertion and Bellarmine de Clericis the stoutest Champion for their cause Alas to what miserable Shifts are our Prelates driven when they must thus fly to Trent to Bellarmine for ayd to support their tottering Thrones And yet these will stand them in no stead all the Trent Prelates confessing with S. Hierom. * That in the first beginnings of Christianity the Churches were governed by a kind of Aristocracy by the common Councel of the Presbytery and that the Monarchicall government and Superiority of Bishops and Archbishops crept in by custome as the (a) History of the Councel of Trent relates at large where you may read the originall of their Courts and Iurisdictions with the steps and meanes of their exorbitant growth and encroachments upon the temporall Iurisdiction and Prerogative of Princes well worthy the greatest Statesmens consideration Besides Dionysius Cathusianus and Cardinal Contarenus in their Commentaries on Phil. 1.1 confesse that in Pauls time Bishops and Presbyters were both one and that either Order was conferred on the Presbyter That Presbyters are there meant by Bishops whence it is usually said That in the Primitive times Bishops were not distinguished from Priests Azorisus the Iesuite Moral part 2. l. 3. c. 16. confesseth that in the Apostles times every where those who were ordained Elders in Cities were Bishops Cardinal Cusanus De Concordia Cathol. l. 2. c. 13. writes the same in eff●ct All Bishops and perchance also Presbyters are of equall power
although there be no Bishops in F●ance Spaine or England Give me there●o●e a mul●itude of Christians how great soever who want not a Bishop to ordaine Priests and I will boldly affirm that there is n● need that the governour of that society should be a Bi●●op Yea let us suppose the Ordina●ion o● Priests and the Ministry of the Chu●ch not to be necessary in the Church and presently it followes that there is no need the universall Church should bee governed by Bishops who are superior to Priests That in the time of Persecution it is neither good nor convenient nor any solace or comfort to the Church to have a Bishop That tho●e who of Bishops are made Religious persons may be said in some sort to fly ●igher and not at all to descend That if the Catholickes of England should yeeld to this motion name●y to receive the Bishop of Chalcedon as their p●oper Pastor and Bish●p they could by no meanes excuse themselves● from being worthy of that reprehension which the C●rinthians received from Saint Paul namely that they rashly and indiscreetly put themselves into subjection that they should bestow their temporall goods so as they could exspect no reward from God as exercising humility Obedience Pat●ence for which no crowne of Righteousnesse is prepared yea that they may by their blind receiving o● him though by the Popes owne Bull and authority expose themselves to manifest perill by falling into mortall sinne c. These Positions of theirs were publikely taught and maintained by many other Priests both in England and Ireland as appeares by the censure of the faculty of Paris and Nicholas I● Maistre his Instauratio antiqui Principatus Episcoporum Parisijs 1633. Written upon this occasion in answer of these Treatises and some others Some of which Propositions though they were censured as Eronious by the faculty of the Divine● of Paris Anno 1631. through the power of the Bishop of Chalcedon as striking at the Popes Supremacy and the Bishops Hierarchie yet in all that censu●e I finde not one passage of Scripture produced to prove them contrary to the word of God and therfore that censure of theirs not much to be regard●● THE FOVRTH SQVADRON THe 4th Squadron consists of Forraigne Protestant Churches and writers which I shall muster ranke in order according to their antiquities as neare as I may I shal begin with the VValdenses Taborites Albigenses Au●●ites whose opinions and resolutions touching these particulars are registred at large by AEneas Sylvias histor Bohemiae c 35 by Renaerus contr Waldenses lib c 6. by Refutatio Waldensuim Bibl. Patrū Tom. 13 p. 383 by Thomas Waldenses● operum Tom. 1 l 3 Arti c● 29 30 31 32 Tom 2. de Sacramento ordinis c. 117 118 Tom c 60 61 62 by Alphonsus de castro adversus hereses Tit Episcopus de Sacramento ordinis by Illiritus Catalogus Testium veritatis p 426 433 445 by Mr. Iohn Fox Acts and Monnments p 210 Albertus Pighius Hierarch Eccles. l 2 c 10 Gersomus Bucerus de Gubernatione Ecclesiae p 599● 600 601. Marsilius Patavimus Anno 1320 seconds them in his Defensoris Paris pars 2 c. 15 16 17 18 19 20 and who Ann● 1330 is backed by Michall Cezenas Henricus de Iota Nicholaus orem Ioannes de Ianduno Petrus de Corbaria Ioannes de Polaco Iohn of Castele ●rancis de Archatara and divers others of tha●age Witnesse Extravagant Ioannis 23 Antoninus quarta pars Summe Catalogus Testium veritatis p 512 524 525 529 Fox Acts and Monuments p 358 359 360. with others AEtates Ecelesiae written about that time c. 2 Registred in Catalogo Testium veritatis p 453 454● Laurentius Valla The restorer of the Elegance of the Latine tongue succeed next in order Annotationes in Act. c. 15 c 20 in 1 Tim: 3 Tit. 1 Ioh● Hus and Hierome of Prague two learned Godly Martyrs tread in their footsteps witnes AEneas Sylvius Histor● Bohem c 35 Fox Acts and Monuments p 55● 559 Gerson Bucerus de Gubernati●n● Ecclesiae p. 602 603 After these successively ensued Ioannis Lu●atwitz in Confessione ●a●oratrum contr. Roke●zanum c 13 apud Lidij Walde● siam p 53 Erasmus of Rot●●rdam Annota● pa●●pht in Act 1● in 1 Tim: 3 4 Phil. 1 Tit 1 1 ●et 5 Scholia in ●pist ●ieronym 〈…〉 adversus a●●●ert●m 〈◊〉 Martin Luther in ●salm 2 ●● 134 in Epist. ad Gal●●es 〈…〉 1 Art● 15 The Synod of ●e●icon Artic 6● The Synod of Modis●a●ia Ar●●c 8 11 12 G●rs●m Buc●r●●d 〈◊〉 E●●●●siae p 370 373 374 4●● 49● 500 51● 518.575 616 61● 618 C●ristian the 3 King of Denmarke Anno 1537● and the whole State of Denma●●e together with ●Gus● 〈◊〉 Cricus ●ing of Sweden about the same ●ime who s●ppressed banished and hanged up the Lordly Bishops of their Re●lms a● false Traitors and Rebels contrary to Chists ins●itution and having no foundation in the word of God Cl●●trae●s Cl●r●n Saxon l 6. p. 49. l● 7 p 219 2●● l● 9. p 259 261 262 263 270 279 l 10 p 297 309 311 340 341 342 l 12 p. 358 359 l 13 p 388 l 14 p 407 421 l 15 p● 433 434. Philip Melan●●hon A●gam Respons● Pezel pa●● 7●Com● in 1 Cor 4 Et dis●utatio d● Politia Ecclesias●ica d● coni●g●o Sacerdotum Oecolampa●ius in Rom 12 ●ald●i●us ●●●nglius in Amica s●a Parenaesi a● Commun●m Helve●iorum ●mitatem operum Tom. 1. p 115 117 in P●●l 1.1 Tom. 3 p● 504. Opus Articulor●m Artic. 34● 36 Francis Lambert his Summa Ch●i●●iani●atis Anno 1536. Pr●sat Mr. Balli●ger in Act. 20 v 28 decad. 5. Ser 3 4 Brentius Apol. 〈◊〉 wettemb c 21. Pellican●s in Mat. c. 16 18 in Act 16 20. Mustulus loc●rum Com. locut de Ministris verbi D●i p. 596.597 598. Mr. Iohn Calvin Instij● l 4 c 3 sect. 8 c 4 sect 2 in Phil 1 1 1 Tim. 3 8 Ti●● 1 5.7 Antidotum Concilij Tridentin● Ses. 7 de Conformation● Martin B●cer de vt usu Ministerij in Ma●th 16 Araetius Problem Lo●us de O●si●ijs Eccles. ●● Pi●l 1 1 in 1 Tim● 3 4● Tit. 1 5 7. Mr. Ralph G●●l●her on Acts. 20. verse ●8 Phil. 1 1 1 Tim. 3. Tit 1.5.7 M●rtin Chem●●tius Examen ●on●ilij Trid●●t pars 2 de Sac●amento 〈◊〉 223 224 Innocentius Gentiletus exam●●●on●ilij Trid●nt Ibid Ioa●nis Ma●o● Kin●sius Ma●lorat on Phil. 1 1 1 Tim. ● Ti● 1 5 7 Acts 20 28. 1 Pet 5 1 2 〈…〉 2 ● 8 in 〈…〉 c 53 〈…〉 5 ● 14 Co●●● 3 c● 3 〈…〉 lig● in 4 P●aecept Defide c 25 s●ct 9 in P●●l 1 1 ●yperius in Tit 1 17 d● M●th●do T●●ologi● l 3 Matthi●s Ill●rieus Clavis S●ripturae Tit Presbiter Catalogus Testi●m Ve●ita●●s p 426 433 445 512 524 525 529 553 554 488 528 c. 〈…〉 Basilius
3 Doctor Thomas Bilson after Bishop of VVinchester in his true difference betweene Christian Subjection and unchristian Rebellion Oxon 159● p 125 126. Iohn Bridges Bishop of Oxford his defence of the Princes Supremacy p. 359. The Petition to Queen Elizabeth p 7 20 21 Discursus de Gubernatione Ecclesiastica Anno 1584 Thoma● VVhete●sall his discourse of the corruptions now in question London 1607 Doctor Richa●d Field of the Church l. 5 c 27 Master Richard Hooker his Ecclesiasticall Polity ●● 5 sect 7. ● Tho Wilson his Christian Dictionary Title Bishop Doctor Henry Airay Sermon 2. on Phil 1 1 Doctor Thomas Tailor in his Commentary upon Titus 1 v 5 7 p 121 122 Mr: Robert Parker De Politia Ecclesiastica Christi Hiorarchia apposita 1614 a learned discourse Paul Bayne his answer to Bishop Down●ham his consecration Sermon Doctor William Ames in his Bellarminus enervatus Printed by License at Oxford Anno 1629. Tom 2 l 3 c 3 4●Iamss Peregrin his Letters Patents of the Presbitery Anno 1632. Doctor Iohn Bastwicke his Flagollum Pontificis Episcoporum La●ialum his Apologeticus with above 40 Anonymous T●eatises that I have seene All these unamiously testifie that Bishops and Presbiters by Gods law and divine institution are all one equall and the same That the superiority of Bishops over other Ministers is only of humane and canonicall institution long afte● the Apostles most of them cōdemning it as Anti-christian unlawfull Diabolical pernicious to Religion the Church of God the cause of all the tyranny schismes corruptions disorders errors abuses that now infest the Church or hinder the power the purity of Religion and progresse of the Gospell To these I might accumulate the Statute of 25 H. 8 c 19 20 21 26 H 8. c 1 27 H● 8 c 15 31 H. 8 c 9.10 37 H 8 c 17 1 Ed. 6 c 21 2 Phil Marie c 8 1 Eliz c. 1 5 Eliz. c 1 8 Eliz. c. 1. The Patents of 31 H 8 pars 4. to enable Bishops to consecrate Churches Chappels and Church-yards with the Kings License first obtained of 36 H. 8 pars 13. to Robert Holga●e Arch-Bishop of Yorke to enable and authorize him to keep a Metropolicall visitation the Patents for the creation of the Bisho●rick● of Oxford Glocester Bristol Peter●●roug● and VVestminster An. 34 35 H ● the Patents of Miles Goverdake Bishop of Exeter Iohn Povet once Bishop of VVinchester and Iohn Story Bishop of Rochester 5 E. 6 pars Prima and of all the other Bishops made in his Raigne by vertue of the Statute of 1 E. 6 c 2. wiih all the High-Commission Patents grounded on 1 Eliz c. 1. all which expresly resolves That all manner of Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction wherby Bishops are extinguished from and elivated above ordinary Ministers is wholy vested in and for ever inseperably united and annexed to the imperiall Crowne of this Realme that our Arch-Bishops Bishops Arch-Deacons● and other ●cclesi●sticall Persons have no manner of jurisdiction Ecclesiasticall but only by under and from the Kings Majesty that they ought to have the jurisdiction delegated and devided to thē by speciall Letters Patents and Commissions under the Kings great Seale to execute the same not in their owne names and right but only Nomin● vice Authoritate nostris Regijs as King Edwards Patents run in the Kings owne name right and Authority as his Officers and subs●itutes making out all their Proces Citations Excommunications Commissions o● Administration Probate of wills and writs of Iur● Patron●●us c in the Kings name only and under his Seale of Armes not their owne under paine of imprisonment and a premunire for the neglect and wilfull contempt whereof all our Bishops and their Officers have encurred severall Premunires to the forfiture of all their temporalities goods estates and liberties to his Majesty who may much enrich his Exchequer thereby All which Acts and Patents judicially condemne and overturn our Bishops pretended superiority over their fellow Brethren by a divine right the very claime whereof alone makes them all liable to a Premunire and meer perjur'd persons both to God and the King beeing directly contrary to the very oath of Supremacy prescribed by 1 Eliz c 1 which every Bishop oft times takes and every graduate and Clergie man whatsoever who must either abjure this pretended Ius Divinum with which they would support the Hierarchie or prove perjur'd disloyall Subjects to their Soveraigne Having thus presented you with this large Catalogue of Authorities proving the parity ●quality and identity of Bishops and Presbiters by divine right and institution I shall now challenge all our great swelling ●relates and their s●attere●s joyntly and severally ●s●ecially the two Arch-Bishops who have made so many throsonicall bragg●s of the proofe of their divine Title in open Court befo●e thousands of people to produce a contrary Catalogue of Auth●rities of thes● severall kinds eviden●ing thei● divine pretended right supe●io●ity and jurisdiction over other Minis●e●s ●f they are able to do it and to give a satisfactory answer to this Treatise I shall su●s●ib● to their opinion and recant what I have written But if they cannot performe ●t as I am certaine they are altogether unable then let them retract their former vaine glorious vaunts● and abjure their pretended Ius Divinum by subscribing to that truth which they are unable to contradict and laying downe their Bishoprickes at least their Rochests● as they have oft-times solemnly protested they would doe If they can or will doe neither they must give all the world leave to passe this censure on them That they have neither that learning truth or honesty in them as hitherto they would make the world beleeve they had● And that they may have no starting hole to evade I shall in as few words as may be answer what ever they can Object for themselves out of any undoubted A●tiquity which is but this● That Acce●s was bran●ed for an Hereticke by Epipha●i●s and Augu●tine for affirming Bishops and Presbiters to bee equall one to the other by divine insti●ution This is all that either the (o) Papists or (p) our Prelates do or can alleage for their Hierarchie out of the Fathers or Antiquity and this in truth is a good as nothing For first this opinion of Aerius was never condemned as Hereticall by any Counsell or Father whatsoever but only by Epiphanius who alone is unsufficient to brand or make any man an Hereticke Saint Augustine indeed if the Booke be his cites this opinion of his out of Epiphanius in his Book de haeresibus c 53 yet he brands it not as an Heresie but stiles it Proprium Dogma in expresse termes to wit his proper assertion and his owne too taxing him only of Heresie for●siding with the Arrians in their branded heresie (q) Isiodor Hispalensis Gratian reciting the Heresie of Arrius makes no mention a all either of this as an Heresie or error