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A09913 An apologie fully aunsvveringe by Scriptures and aunceant doctors, a blasphemose book gatherid by D. Steph. Gardiner, of late Lord Chauncelar, D. Smyth of Oxford, Pighius, and other papists, as by ther books appeareth and of late set furth vnder the name of Thomas Martin Doctor of the Ciuile lawes (as of himself he saieth) against the godly mariadge of priests Wherin dyuers other matters which the papists defend be so confutid, that in Martyns ouerthrow they may see there own impudency and confusion. By Iohn Ponet Doctor of diuinitie and Busshhop of Winchester. Ponet, John, 1516?-1556. 1556 (1556) STC 20175A; ESTC S115006 87,761 184

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they_o not_o also_o the_o name_n of_o these_o heretic_n for_o the_o one_o whereby_o s_n austen_n say_v they_o be_v name_v and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d blasphemer_n with_o there_o finger_n for_o the_o