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which_o warrant_v widdrington_n have_v not_o for_o his_o opinion_n rather_o the_o church_n have_v condemn_v it_o in_o counsel_n and_o practice_n as_o we_o have_v show_v who_o be_v then_o so_o hardy_a or_o rather_o so_o rash_a that_o dare_v swear_v absolute_o that_o the_o pope_n have_v no_o authority_n to_o depose_v prince_n or_o dispose_v of_o their_o kingdom_n the_o contrary_a being_n not_o only_o probable_a yea_o more_o probable_a which_o widdrington_n can_v not_o deny_v but_o also_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n or_o so_o near_o concern_v faith_n as_o the_o argument_n and_o authority_n produce_v do_v warrant_n that_o cardinal_n allan_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o libeller_n say_v 4._o chap._n 4._o it_o concern_v the_o pope_n supremacy_n and_o power_n apostolical_a 259._o apol._n pro_fw-la card._n bellar._n cap._n 6._o cont_n 4._o pag._n 259._o and_o schulkennius_n very_o well_o aver_v the_o contrary_a be_v either_o heretical_a or_o erroneous_a and_o temerarious_a either_o of_o which_o be_v enough_o to_o deter_v any_o timorous_a conscience_n but_o be_v it_o that_o the_o opinion_n which_o hold_v that_o the_o pope_n in_o some_o case_n can_v depose_v a_o prince_n be_v but_o probable_a yet_o see_v that_o the_o thing_n which_o be_v probable_a may_v be_v true_a and_o if_o it_o be_v the_o more_o common_a and_o probable_a opinion_n as_o widdrington_n deny_v not_o but_o that_o this_o opinion_n of_o depose_v prince_n be_v it_o be_v most_o like_a to_o be_v true_a it_o follow_v consequent_o that_o he_o that_o abiur_v this_o probable_a yea_o more_o probable_a opinion_n that_o the_o pope_n can_v in_o some_o case_n depose_v prince_n expose_v himself_o to_o probable_a danger_n of_o swear_v false_a and_o abiur_v the_o truth_n and_o so_o be_v perjure_a because_o qui_fw-la amat_fw-la periculum_fw-la in_o illo_fw-la peribit_fw-la 3_o eccl._n 3_o he_o that_o love_v danger_n shall_v perish_v therein_o out_o of_o which_o word_n divine_n do_v prove_v that_o he_o who_o witting_o and_o willing_o expose_v himself_o to_o probable_a danger_n of_o any_o sin_n be_v guilty_a before_o god_n of_o that_o sin_n as_o if_o he_o have_v actuallie_o commit_v 19_o certes_o if_o verity_n be_v a_o necessary_a companion_n of_o a_o lawful_a oath_n no_o man_n can_v swear_v more_o than_o he_o think_v there_o be_v verity_n in_o the_o thing_n he_o swear_v wherefore_o that_o he_o may_v swear_v that_o this_o opinion_n be_v probable_a he_o must_v in_o conscience_n think_v it_o at_o least_o probable_a which_o if_o he_o ponder_v the_o authority_n which_o above_o i_o have_v produce_v for_o the_o contrary_a he_o can_v not_o possible_o and_o with_o any_o reason_n think_v to_o swear_v that_o he_o think_v it_o not_o only_o probable_a but_o also_o absolute_o and_o undoubted_o true_a he_o must_v in_o conscience_n be_v so_o persuade_v else_o he_o shall_v swear_v against_o his_o conscience_n and_o otherwise_o then_o in_o his_o conscience_n be_v true_a and_o how_o can_v he_o persuade_v himself_o so_o full_o as_o to_o swear_v that_o from_o his_o hart_n and_o before_o god_n he_o think_v and_o hold_v that_o the_o pope_n in_o no_o case_n can_v depose_v prince_n or_o dispose_v of_o their_o dominion_n he_o know_v that_o so_o many_o and_o with_o so_o great_a reason_n hold_v the_o contrary_a who_o be_v as_o likely_a and_o as_o far_o more_o likely_a not_o to_o be_v deceive_v than_o he_o as_o they_o have_v more_o reason_n and_o authority_n for_o their_o opinion_n than_o he_o 20._o 63._o pag._n 62._o and_o pag._n 63._o widdrington_n in_o his_o newyearesgift_n answer_v that_o whatsoever_o opinion_n a_o man_n follow_v in_o speculation_n concern_v the_o pope_n authority_n to_o deprive_v prince_n yet_o he_o may_v as_o certain_o acknowledge_v and_o swear_v that_o the_o pope_n have_v no_o authority_n to_o depose_v the_o king_n that_o be_v to_o practice_v his_o deposition_n as_o it_o be_v clear_a and_o manifest_a that_o he_o may_v certain_o acknowledge_v and_o swear_v that_o the_o pope_n have_v 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citandos_fw-la †_o vide_fw-la d._n tho._n lib._n 1._o de_fw-la regim_fw-la princip_n c._n 6._o caiet_fw-mi 2.2_o q._n 64._o a._n 3_o &_o arragon_n ibid._n sayr_n lib._n 7._o claeu_n regiae_n cap._n 10._o vu_fw-la 4._o &_o reliquos_fw-la infra_fw-la citandos_fw-la common_a opinion_n every_o one_o of_o the_o realm_n have_v iustum_fw-la bellum_fw-la just_a war_n against_o he_o and_o so_o may_v kill_v he_o by_o way_n of_o defence_n yea_o although_o the_o tyrant_n have_v just_a title_n and_o so_o be_v true_a king_n yet_o if_o he_o tyrannize_v in_o government_n not_o howsoever_o for_o 2._o *_o ronvere_n 13._o 1._o pet._n 2._o evil_a king_n must_v be_v bear_v withal_o and_o aught_o to_o be_v obey_v but_o intolerable_o and_o so_o as_o the_o common_a wealth_n can_v not_o consist_v under_o he_o that_o then_o not_o particular_a subject_n but_o the_o common_a wealth_n after_o sufficient_a admonition_n may_v by_o common_a consent_n public_a authority_n and_o public_a sentence_n depose_v he_o as_o 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polit._n cap._n 5._o &_o li_z 5._o cap._n 10._o &_o 11._o cic._n lib._n 3._o the_o offic_n ancient_a philosopher_n and_o this_o also_o many_o christian_a 4._o christian_a gigas_fw-la paridius_n de_fw-fr puteo_fw-la &_o alij_fw-la citati_fw-la a_o suar._n lib._n 6._o defence_n fidei_fw-la cathol_a c._n 4._o lawyer_n and_o learned_a verò_fw-la learned_a d._n tho._n citat_fw-la in_o 2_o d._n ult._n q._n 2_o be_v 2._o ad_fw-la 5._o gerson_n par_fw-fr 4_o tract_n contra_fw-la adulatores_fw-la consid_fw-la 7._o sotus_n lib._n 5._o the_o just_a q._n 1._o be_v 3._o bannes_n 2.2_o q_o 64._o a_o 3._o dub_v 1._o §_o sed_fw-la quaeret_fw-la aliquis_fw-la valentia_n to_o 3._o disp_n 5_o q._n 8_o p._n 3._o §._o si_fw-mi est_fw-fr tyrannus_n molina_n to_o 4._o the_o just_a tract_n 3._o disp_n 6._o n._n 2._o tolet_n lib._n 5._o summa_fw-la cap._n 6_o num_fw-la 17._o sa_o in_o aphorismis_n v._o tyrannus_n num_fw-la 2._o lessius_fw-la lib._n 2._o the_o just_a &_o jure_fw-la cap._n 9_o
and_o if_o this_o limitation_n proceed_v from_o the_o king_n he_o may_v at_o his_o pleasure_n also_o take_v it_o away_o which_o be_v to_o give_v prince_n too_o much_o scope_n and_o liberty_n wherefore_o as_o the_o people_n give_v the_o king_n his_o authority_n so_o it_o be_v the_o people_n that_o thus_o limit_v and_o restrain_v he_o for_o their_o own_o preservation_n for_o to_o the_o same_o authority_n that_o give_v power_n it_o pertain_v to_o restrain_v it_o 16._o have_v thus_o prove_v that_o the_o king_n or_o prince_n have_v authority_n from_o god_n as_o author_n of_o nature_n yet_o by_o mean_n of_o the_o people_n election_n and_o grant_v to_o govern_v the_o kingdom_n or_o common_a wealth_n it_o follow_v that_o he_o have_v authority_n not_o only_o to_o command_v privarelie_o or_o particulerlie_o as_o the_o goodman_n of_o the_o house_n may_v command_v his_o wife_n child_n or_o servant_n but_o also_o to_o make_v law_n which_o shall_v bind_v the_o whole_a community_n or_o common_a wealth_n otherwise_o if_o he_o shall_v command_v and_o the_o people_n may_v disobey_v he_o can_v not_o rule_v nor_o direct_v the_o people_n and_o so_o shall_v not_o have_v sufficient_a authority_n 17._o by_o which_o may_v appear_v how_o absurd_a the_o opinion_n of_o our_o reformer_n be_v 10._o luth_n l._n the_o cap_a bab._n calu._n l._n 3_o inst_z c._n 19_o n._n 14_o &_o l._n 4._o c._n 10._o and_o how_o injurious_a to_o prince_n yea_o and_o to_o god_n that_o appoint_v they_o who_o blush_v not_o to_o say_v and_o avouch_v that_o all_o christian_n that_o be_v caluinist_n endue_v with_o faith_n be_v so_o free_v by_o christ_n from_o all_o law_n and_o humane_a power_n that_o they_o can_v not_o bind_v they_o in_o conscience_n 18._o certes_o luther_n in_o his_o book_n of_o babylonical_a captivity_n and_o caluin_n in_o his_o institution_n make_v it_o a_o part_n of_o the_o office_n of_o a_o redeemer_n in_o christ_n to_o have_v so_o free_v we_o from_o all_o humane_a authority_n and_o law_n that_o they_o can_v not_o bind_v we_o in_o conscience_n and_o the_o anabaptist_n and_o trinitarian_n who_o a_o 155â—_n at_o alba-iulia_n set_v forth_o certain_a antithesis_n of_o the_o true_a and_o false_a christ_n in_o their_o seven_o antithesis_fw-la affirm_v that_o falsus_fw-la christus_fw-la habet_fw-la in_o suâ_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la reges_fw-la principes_fw-la magistratus_fw-la gladios_fw-la at_o verus_fw-la christus_fw-la nihil_fw-la tale_n in_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la pati_fw-la potest_fw-la the_o false_a christ_n have_v in_o his_o church_n king_n prince_n magistrate_n sword_n but_o the_o true_a christ_n can_v abide_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o his_o church_n but_o this_o opinion_n may_v be_v evidentlie_o convince_v by_o that_o which_o be_v say_v for_o if_o prince_n have_v power_n from_o god_n and_o nature_n to_o rule_v they_o have_v power_n to_o make_v law_n and_o if_o they_o can_v make_v law_n they_o can_v bind_v in_o conscience_n else_o their_o law_n be_v straw_n and_o to_o little_a purpose_n especial_o when_o the_o subject_n can_v avoid_v by_o slight_a the_o penalty_n of_o the_o law_n wherefore_o saint_n paul_n command_v we_o to_o be_v subject_a to_o all_o lawful_a humane_a authority_n non_fw-la tantum_fw-la propter_fw-la iram_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la propter_fw-la conscientiam_fw-la not_o only_o for_o wrath_n but_o also_o for_o conscience_n sake_n 13._o rom._n 13._o and_o he_o add_v that_o he_o that_o resist_v this_o power_n which_o be_v of_o god_n dei_fw-la ordinationi_fw-la resistit_fw-la qui_fw-la autem_fw-la resistunt_fw-la ipsi_fw-la sibi_fw-la damnationem_fw-la acquirunt_fw-la resist_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n and_o they_o that_o resist_v purchase_v to_o themselves_o damnation_n which_o argue_v a_o obligation_n in_o conscience_n again_o the_o same_o apostle_n command_v titus_n to_o admonish_v christian_n to_o be_v subject_a to_o prince_n and_o potestaâ—es_n 3._o ad_fw-la tit._n 3._o 2._o 1._o pot._n 2._o saint_n peter_n command_v they_o to_o be_v subject_a to_o every_o humane_a creature_n for_o god_n whether_o it_o be_v king_n as_o excel_v &c._n &c._n and_o he_o give_v the_o reason_n say_v for_o so_o be_v the_o will_n of_o god_n by_o which_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o we_o be_v bind_v under_o sin_n &_o under_o god_n his_o displeasure_n to_o honour_n and_o obey_v king_n and_o prince_n and_o consequent_o that_o we_o be_v bind_v in_o conscience_n 19_o let_v not_o then_o our_o reformer_n traduce_v catholic_n as_o enemy_n to_o princely_a authority_n and_o idolator_n of_o the_o pope_n power_n for_o we_o acknowledge_v and_o reverence_v they_o both_o high_o in_o their_o kind_n but_o let_v the_o reformer_n look_v to_o themselves_o plautus_n plautus_n because_o qui_fw-la alterum_fw-la incusat_fw-la probri_fw-la ipsum_fw-la se_fw-la intueri_fw-la oportet_fw-la he_o that_o accuse_v another_o must_v look_v that_o he_o himself_o be_v free_a 12._o joseph_n l._n 18._o ant._n c._n 2._o aug._n l._n 3._o côt_fw-fr cros_n c._n 15._o exira_n de_fw-fr haeret_fw-la c._n 4_o anton._n 4._o p._n tit_n 11._o ca._n 7._o §_o 9_o luth._o l._n de_fw-la saecul_fw-la pete_a trinita_n aij_fw-la supra_fw-la buchan_n li._n de_fw-fr jure_fw-la regni_fw-la goodman_n l._n de_fw-fr obedien_fw-mi pag._n 203._o beza_n ep_v 78._o ad_fw-la buchanan_n luth._o supra_fw-la caluin_n l._n 4._o inst_z c._n 19_o §._o 14._o exod._n 12._o we_o catholic_n say_v not_o with_o judas_n galilaeus_fw-la that_o no_o prince_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v nor_o with_o cresconius_n that_o the_o magistrate_n ought_v not_o to_o punish_v nor_o with_o the_o beguard_n that_o the_o perfect_a be_v not_o bind_v to_o obey_v law_n nor_o with_o wickleph_n that_o the_o prince_n by_o mortal_a sin_n lose_v his_o authority_n nor_o with_o luther_n that_o the_o turk_n be_v decies_fw-la probior_fw-la prudentiorque_fw-la nostris_fw-la principibus_fw-la ten_o time_n honest_a and_o wise_a than_o our_o prince_n nor_o with_o the_o aforesaid_a trinitarian_n anabaptist_n and_o libertine_n that_o the_o true_a christ_n suffer_v no_o prince_n nor_o magistrate_n in_o his_o church_n nor_o with_o buchanan_n that_o the_o people_n only_o be_v to_o make_v law_n reges_fw-la sunt_fw-la veluti_fw-la tabulaeriorum_n custodes_fw-la nor_o with_o goodman_n that_o woman_n can_v reign_v and_o that_o therefore_o wyatt_n rise_v against_o queen_n marie_n be_v no_o traitor_n nor_o with_o beza_n do_v we_o call_v that_o lawful_a and_o worthy_a queen_n marie_n the_o mother_n of_o our_o sovereign_a king_n james_n medea_n and_o athalia_fw-la as_o though_o as_o he_o say_v nullum_fw-la illius_fw-la sceleribus_fw-la nomen_fw-la idoneum_fw-la inveniri_fw-la posset_n no_o name_n answerable_a to_o her_o wickedness_n can_v be_v find_v out_o nor_o with_o luther_n and_o caluin_n that_o prince_n law_n bind_v not_o the_o faithful_a in_o conscience_n but_o we_o say_v and_o believe_v with_o scripture_n thou_o shall_v not_o detract_v from_o the_o god_n that_o be_v prince_n who_o be_v call_v god_n by_o participation_n nor_o speak_v evil_a of_o the_o prince_n of_o thy_o people_n 22._o prou._n 8._o mat._n 22._o we_o confess_v that_o by_o god_n prince_n reign_v we_o command_v to_o give_v to_o caesar_n what_o be_v due_a to_o caesar_n we_o allow_v of_o s._n ignatius_n counsel_n caesari_n subiecti_fw-la estote_fw-la in_o ijs_fw-la antioch_n ign._n epi._n ad_fw-la antioch_n in_fw-la quibus_fw-la nullum_fw-la animae_fw-la periculum_fw-la be_v you_o subject_n to_o caesar_n in_o those_o thing_n in_o which_o be_v no_o danger_n of_o the_o soul_n we_o be_v teach_v to_o give_v to_o magistrate_n as_o s._n 14_o eus_n l._n 4._o hist_o c._n 14_o policarp_n say_v and_o potestates_fw-la appoint_v by_o god_n that_o honour_n which_o be_v not_o prejudicial_a to_o our_o soul_n or_o religion_n we_o worship_v as_o tertullian_n say_v the_o emperor_n 2._o lib._n adversus_fw-la scap._n cap._n 2._o the_o king_n sic_fw-la quomodo_fw-la &_o nobis_fw-la licet_fw-la &_o ipsi_fw-la expedit_fw-la ut_fw-la hominem_fw-la à _fw-la deo_fw-la secundum_fw-la &_o solo_fw-la deo_fw-la minorem_fw-la so_o as_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o we_o and_o expedient_a for_o he_o as_o a_o man_n second_o in_o temporal_a authority_n to_o god_n and_o only_o lesser_a than_o god_n for_o whilst_o the_o king_n keep_v within_o his_o bound_n he_o have_v no_o superior_a in_o temporal_a matter_n but_o god_n and_o this_o be_v the_o honourable_a conceit_n which_o catholic_n have_v of_o their_o king_n and_o prince_n chapter_n iii_o ecclesiastical_a power_n be_v of_o god_n and_o distinct_a from_o the_o civil_a jurisdiction_n which_o also_o all_o member_n of_o the_o church_n be_v bind_v in_o conscience_n to_o obey_v 1._o have_v give_v to_o caesar_n and_o the_o kingdom_n what_o be_v due_a to_o they_o it_o follow_v that_o i_o give_v to_o christ_n and_o his_o vicaire_n yea_o and_o church_n also_o what_o belong_v to_o they_o i_o have_v prove_v in_o the_o former_a chapter_n that_o civil_a power_n be_v of_o god_n and_o nature_n because_o it_o be_v necessary_o annex_v to_o all_o lawful_a society_n to_o which_o god_n and_o nature_n do_v incline_v
subject_n to_o bishop_n and_o especial_o to_o the_o chief_a bishop_n they_o can_v not_o in_o that_o kind_n be_v head_n and_o superior_n to_o bishop_n 17._o last_o i_o prove_v this_o by_o out_o adversary_n confession_n which_o be_v a_o argument_n ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la of_o no_o little_a force_n because_o none_o be_v presume_v to_o lie_v against_o himself_o amos._n calu._n in_o cap._n 7._o amos._n calvin_n pronounce_v thus_o of_o henry_n the_o eight_o his_o supremacy_n qui_fw-la initio_fw-la tantoperè_fw-la extulerunt_fw-la henricum_fw-la regem_fw-la angliae_fw-la certè_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la homines_fw-la inconsiderrti_fw-la dederuut_n enim_fw-la ill_n summam_fw-la rerum_fw-la omnium_fw-la potestatem_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la i_o graviter_fw-la semper_fw-la vulneravit_fw-la erant_fw-la enim_fw-la blasphemi_fw-la cum_fw-la vocarent_fw-la eum_fw-la summum_fw-la caput_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la sub_fw-la christo_fw-la they_o who_o in_o the_o beginning_n do_v so_o much_o extol_v henry_n the_o eight_o king_n of_o england_n be_v man_n inconsiderate_a for_o they_o give_v he_o supreme_a power_n of_o all_o thing_n and_o this_o do_v always_o much_o aggreve_v i_o for_o they_o be_v blasphemous_a when_o they_o call_v he_o supreaine_a head_n of_o the_o church_n under_o christ_n this_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o calvin_n which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v contemn_v of_o our_o protestant_n who_o follow_v he_o as_o a_o oracle_n in_o other_o and_o those_o very_a many_o point_n and_o to_o he_o have_v subscribe_v our_o puritan_n in_o england_n and_o the_o brethren_n of_o helvetia_n zurich_n berne_n geneva_n polonia_n hungary_n and_o scotland_n who_o all_o deny_v this_o supremacy_n of_o king_n in_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n yea_o our_o protestant_n themselves_o whilst_o they_o seek_v to_o avoid_v the_o absurdity_n which_o above_o i_o have_v produce_v against_o this_o supremacy_n and_o which_o catholic_n have_v object_v do_v in_o effect_n despoil_v the_o king_n of_o all_o such_o authority_n 19_o angl._n becanus_n in_o dissid_n angl._n for_o first_o as_o bbcanus_n have_v tell_v they_o they_o be_v not_o agree_v whether_o his_o authority_n shall_v be_v call_v primacy_n or_o supremacy_n nor_o whether_o he_o shall_v be_v style_v primate_n or_o sovereign_n 33._o salclebr_n pag._n 140._o d._n and._n in_o tort._n pag._n 90._o tomson_n pag._n 33._o head_n or_o governor_n salclebridge_n call_v the_o king_n primate_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n doctor_n andrew_n call_v his_o authority_n primacy_n and_o yet_o tomson_n will_v not_o have_v this_o authority_n call_v primacy_n but_o supremacy_n because_o the_o former_a word_n argue_v a_o power_n ecclesiastical_a and_o of_o the_o same_o order_n with_o that_o which_o prelate_n of_o the_o church_n have_v the_o last_o word_n he_o say_v signify_v not_o so_o much_o and_o again_o he_o will_v not_o have_v it_o call_v spiritual_a authority_n but_o authority_n in_o respect_n of_o spiritual_a thing_n 305_o tomson_n pag._n 31._o idem_fw-la pag._n 95._o 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name_n so_o do_v they_o in_o the_o power_n and_o thing_n itself_o tooker_n say_v the_o king_n have_v and_o can_v give_v 140._o tooker_n pag_n 305._o salclebr_n pa._n 140._o and_o take_v away_o all_o jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a in_o the_o outward_a court_n salclebridge_n say_v the_o king_n can_v dispense_v in_o plurality_n of_o benefice_n 151._o d._n and._n apud_fw-la tooker_n pa._n 305._o bur._n pa._n 234._o salcl_n pa._n 121._o took_n pag._n 36._o bur._n pag._n 137._o &_o 242._o took_n pag._n 15._o d._n and._n pag._n 151._o and_o can_v licence_v a_o bastard_n to_o take_v holy_a order_n d._n andrew_n say_v he_o have_v all_o external_a jurisdiction_n but_o censure_n yet_o byrhil_n deny_v he_o all_o jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a both_o in_o the_o inward_a and_o outward_a court_n salclebridge_n say_v the_o king_n can_v give_v benefice_n create_v and_o depose_v bishop_n and_o yet_o tooker_n say_v he_o can_v only_o nominate_v and_o present_v burhil_n deny_v the_o king_n authority_n 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