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A65695 The absurdity and idolatry of host-worship proved, by shewing how it answers what is said in scripture and the writtings of the fathers, to shew the folly and idolatry committed in the worship of heathen deities : also a full answer to all those pleas by which papists would wipe off the charge of idolatry, and an appendix against transubstantiation, with some reflexions on a late popish book called The guide in controversies / by Daniel Whitby ... Whitby, Daniel, 1638-1726. 1679 (1679) Wing W1719; ESTC R39040 107,837 157

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cathari_n 68_o can._n 8._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d con._n nicen._n 2._o act._n 1._o p._n 68_o or_o the_o novatian_a heretic_n that_o they_o return_v to_o the_o catholic_n and_o apostolic_a church_n shall_v remain_v in_o that_o order_n of_o clergy_n in_o which_o they_o be_v only_o receive_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o the_o imposition_n of_o hand_n for_o benediction_n and_o reconciliation_n and_o that_o if_o any_o of_o they_o be_v find_v either_o in_o village_n or_o city_n to_o be_v the_o only_a bishop_n that_o be_v there_o ordain_v they_o shall_v continue_v in_o that_o same_o rank_n whereas_o concern_v the_o pauliani_n who_o as_o st._n austin_n think_v 44._o de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la cap._n 44._o do_v not_o observe_v the_o essential_o of_o true_a baptism_n the_o council_n do_v determine_v that_o if_o any_o of_o they_o shall_v be_v find_v among_o the_o clergy_n they_o shall_v be_v rebaptise_v and_o then_o receive_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o ordination_n by_o some_o bishop_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n 19_o can._n 19_o so_o that_o the_o ordination_n of_o the_o novatian_a heretic_n who_o be_v very_o numerous_a and_o who_o bishop_n have_v continue_v in_o a_o long_a succession_n at_o constantinople_n ephesus_n 11._o socrat._v hist_o eccles_n l._n 2._o cap._n 38._o p._n 114._o l._n 7._o cap._n 11._o at_o cyzicum_n and_o in_o most_o other_o place_n be_v by_o this_o great_a and_o holy_a synod_n here_o pronounce_v valid_a and_o they_o who_o be_v ordain_v by_o their_o bishop_n be_v not_o receive_v into_o the_o church_n as_o greek_n or_o degrade_v into_o the_o rank_n of_o layman_n whereas_o by_o reason_n of_o some_o fundamentla_fw-fr error_n in_o the_o case_n of_o baptism_n it_o be_v determine_v that_o the_o pauliani_n who_o be_v of_o their_o clergy_n shall_v be_v by_o baptism_n admit_v first_o into_o the_o church_n and_o then_o by_o ordination_n of_o the_o bishop_n into_o the_o number_n of_o the_o clergy_n the_o judgement_n of_o st._n austin_n be_v so_o clear_a in_o this_o point_n that_o we_o need_v nothing_o more_o to_o evidence_n the_o faith_n and_o practice_n which_o then_o obtain_v in_o the_o church_n for_o that_o the_o ordination_n of_o heretic_n be_v valid_a he_o both_o assert_n against_o the_o donatist_n and_o prove_v by_o these_o two_o medium_n 1._o that_o their_o baptism_n be_v valid_a according_a to_o the_o determination_n of_o the_o church_n their_o ordination_n must_v be_v deem_v so_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n 13._o lib_fw-la 2._o contra_n epist_n parm._n c._n 13._o say_v he_o that_o they_o who_o can_v lose_v their_o baptism_n shall_v lose_v the_o power_n of_o give_v baptism_n to_o other_o for_o they_o both_o of_o they_o be_v sacrament_n both_o of_o they_o be_v give_v by_o consecration_n one_o when_o the_o person_n be_v baptise_a the_o other_o when_o he_o be_v ordain_v and_o therefore_o in_o the_o catholic_n church_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a
to_o reiterate_v either_o of_o they_o 2._o because_o say_v he_o a_o person_n who_o after_o his_o ordination_n in_o the_o church_n catholic_n ibid._n non_fw-la sunt_fw-la rursus_fw-la ordinandi_fw-la sed_fw-la sicut_fw-la baptismus_fw-la in_o eye_n ita_fw-la ordinatio_fw-la mansit_fw-la integra_fw-la qua_fw-la in_o praecisione_n erat_fw-la vitium_fw-la non_fw-la in_o sacramentis_fw-la quae_fw-la ubicunque_fw-la sunt_fw-la ipsa_fw-la vera_fw-la sunt_fw-la ibid._n become_v a_o heretic_n must_v not_o at_o his_o return_n to_o the_o church_n be_v re-ordained_n and_o therefore_o neither_o must_v he_o be_v re-ordained_n who_o have_v receive_v ordination_n out_o of_o the_o church_n catholic_n and_o hence_o it_o be_v say_v he_o that_o if_o any_o bishop_n of_o the_o donatist_n be_v win_v over_o to_o the_o church_n and_o it_o do_v seem_v convenient_a that_o they_o shall_v bear_v the_o same_o office_n which_o former_o they_o do_v they_o be_v not_o by_o the_o church_n ordain_v but_o as_o their_o baptism_n so_o their_o ordination_n remain_v entire_a by_o this_o determination_n the_o doctor_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v general_o sway_v so_o that_o there_o be_v say_v bellarmine_n emtra_fw-mi bell._n 1.4_o de_fw-fr rom._n p●ntif_n c._n 10._o §_o at_o emtra_fw-mi scarce_o any_o catholic_n who_o know_v not_o that_o they_o who_o be_v baptise_a by_o heretic_n be_v baptise_a true_o and_o they_o that_o be_v ordain_v by_o heretic_n be_v ordain_v true_o when_o the_o heretic_n that_o ordain_v be_v true_o a_o bishop_n at_o least_o as_o to_o his_o character_n §_o viii_o 2._o that_o the_o ordination_n make_v by_o those_o heretic_n who_o real_o be_v or_o by_o the_o church_n have_v be_v condemn_v as_o idolater_n or_o person_n guilty_a of_o more_o heinous_a crime_n when_o these_o ordainer_n be_v true_a bishop_n be_v esteem_v valid_a by_o the_o church_n the_o same_o learned_a person_n have_v demonstrate_v 798._o desence_n of_o his_o discourse_n part_n 2._o chap._n 4._o p._n 795_o 798._o 1._o from_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o second_o nicene_n council_n in_o the_o case_n of_o meletius_n who_o be_v ordain_v by_o arian_n bishop_n and_o who_o ordination_n be_v account_v valid_a by_o a_o alexandrian_a synod_n in_o their_o synodal_n epistle_n 9_o eccles_n hier._n l._n 2._o cap._n 10._o §_o 9_o which_o say_v petavius_n contain_v the_o faith_n receive_v in_o the_o whole_a church_n catholic_n and_o in_o the_o synodal_n epistle_n of_o the_o first_o nicene_n synod_n which_o say_v petavius_n 4._o idem_fw-la app._n to._n 3._o eccl._n hier._n l._n 2._o c._n 3_o §_o 4._o determine_v that_o they_o who_o be_v constitute_v and_o confirm_v by_o mystical_a imposition_n of_o hand_n shall_v be_v receive_v into_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n and_o enjoy_v their_o function_n with_o these_o provision_n that_o they_o shall_v be_v in_o every_o church_n and_o parish_n after_o those_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n which_o be_v ordain_v by_o alexander_n bishop_n of_o alexandria_n that_o they_o shall_v have_v no_o power_n of_o elect_v who_o they_o please_v nor_o of_o propound_v of_o the_o name_n of_o those_o who_o they_o think_v fit_a to_o be_v choose_v into_o the_o body_n of_o the_o clergy_n 2._o this_o he_o do_v prove_v from_o a_o full_a testimony_n of_o the_o general_a sense_n of_o the_o church_n of_o that_o age_n 28._o hist_o eccles_n l._n 1._o c._n 28._o record_v by_o ruffinus_n concern_v the_o admission_n of_o those_o who_o have_v receive_v order_n from_o the_o arian_n bishop_n to_o the_o exercise_n of_o their_o priestly_a office_n with_o which_o decree_n of_o the_o alexandrian_a council_n about_o the_o receive_v the_o arian_n bishiops_n and_o priest_n upon_o disow_v their_o heresy_n init_fw-la adu._n lucifer_n init_fw-la though_o lucifer_n do_v quarrel_v yet_o jerom_n say_v that_o it_o be_v universal_o receive_v by_o the_o church_n this_o will_v be_v far_a evident_a from_o the_o 7._o canon_n of_o the_o second_o general_n council_n of_o constantinople_n and_o from_o the_o 95._o canon_n of_o the_o synod_n hold_v at_o trullo_n in_o both_o which_o canon_n it_o be_v determine_v that_o the_o arian_n baptism_n shall_v be_v esteem_v valid_a d.e._n contra_n epist_n parmen_fw-la lib._n 2._o c._n 13._o sess_n 23._o c._n 4._o synod_n ephes_n epist_n ad_fw-la theod._n &_o vale_n t_o imperat_fw-la act._n synod_n cap._n 7._o audemus_fw-la anathematizare_fw-la nestorii_n idololatriam_fw-la in_o homine_fw-la 2_o nic._n council_n act._n 7._o epist_n ad_fw-la constantinum_n &_o iren._n act._n 1._o p._n 68_o e._n haer._n 80._o n._n 3._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 10_o act._n 1._o p._n 72._o e._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d act._n 1._o p._n 77._o e._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d act._n 4._o p._n 236._o a_o act_n 6._o p._n 357._o b._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d act._n 1._o p._n 77._o c._n act._n 3._o p._n 160._o d.e._n and_o not_o to_o be_v reiterated_a and_o therefore_o as_o s._n austin_n do_v infer_v they_o must_v esteem_v their_o ordination_n also_o valid_a and_o not_o to_o be_v reiterated_a because_o in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o order_n as_o well_o as_o baptism_n say_v the_o tret_n council_n a_o indelible_a character_n be_v impress_v moreover_n that_o the_o nestorian_n be_v idolater_n have_v be_v declare_v by_o the_o church_n and_o yet_o their_o ordination_n by_o the_o same_o church_n have_v be_v account_v valid_a say_v the_o second_o nicene_n council_n that_o the_o massaliani_n or_o euchytae_fw-la be_v worshipper_n of_o the_o devil_n epiphanius_n do_v inform_v we_o and_o yet_o their_o ordination_n be_v allow_v by_o the_o three_o general_n council_n of_o ephesus_n and_o it_o be_v there_o decree_v say_v the_o second_o nicene_n council_n that_o as_o many_o of_o their_o clergy_n as_o will_v renounce_v their_o heresy_n and_o return_n to_o the_o church_n shall_v remain_v in_o the_o number_n of_o the_o clergy_n concern_v the_o heresy_n of_o the_o iconoclast_n it_o be_v determine_v by_o the_o member_n of_o the_o second_o nicene_n council_n that_o it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o worst_a of_o evil_n and_o of_o uheresy_n what_o shall_v we_o esteem_v they_o say_v tarusius_n who_o sitbvert_v sacred_a image_n they_o must_v be_v count_v say_v the_o synod_n as_o atheist_n jew_n and_o enemy_n of_o the_o truth_n they_o who_o reject_v they_o be_v like_a to_o jew_n and_o samaritan_n faith_n the_o same_o synod_n and_o again_o if_o the_o make_n of_o image_n be_v liken_v to_o idol_n the_o mystery_n of_o our_o redemption_n be_v make_v void_a say_v the_o same_o council_n and_o yet_o this_o very_a council_n do_v determine_v that_o even_o these_o very_a person_n who_o confess_v that_o they_o be_v bear_v and_o breed_v up_o in_o this_o worst_a of_o heresy_n shall_v be_v admit_v into_o the_o order_n of_o priesthood_n which_o they_o have_v former_o receive_v and_o do_v according_o admit_v they_o moreover_o from_o the_o trent_n council_n i_o thus_o argue_v that_o power_n which_o be_v not_o temporary_a and_o therefore_o never_o can_v be_v take_v away_o continues_z with_o idolatrous_a priest_n and_o bishop_n as_o well_o as_o with_o other_o heretic_n but_o according_a to_o the_o definition_n of_o the_o trent_n council_n that_o power_n which_o be_v give_v in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o order_n impress_v on_o the_o receiver_n a_o indelible_a character_n never_o can_v be_v take_v away_o for_o so_o they_o do_v express_o testify_v in_o these_o word_n because_o in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o order_n as_o well_o as_o confirmation_n and_o baptism_n a_o character_n be_v impress_v 4._o in_o sacramento_n ordinis_fw-la character_n imprimitur_fw-la nec_fw-la delert_fw-la auferri_fw-la po_fw-la sess_n 23._o 4._o which_o neitehr_fw-ge can_v be_v blot_v out_o nor_o take_v away_o n.b._n this_o holy_a syne_v just_o condemn_v their_o opinion_n who_o hold_v that_o priest_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n have_v only_o a_o temporary_a power_n last_o agreeable_a to_o this_o determination_n of_o the_o trent_n council_n be_v the_o determination_n of_o the_o school_n for_o that_o every_o bishop_n be_v a_o minister_n of_o scred_a order_n be_v so_o true_a say_v estius_n 3._o in_o sent._n l._n 4._o do_v 25._o §_o 3._o that_o no_o crime_n how_o enormous_a soever_o as_o heresy_n schism_n apostasy_n nor_o any_o censure_n how_o weighty_a soever_o as_o v.g._n that_o of_o excommunication_n can_v hinder_v the_o validity_n of_o any_o ordination_n make_v by_o such_o a_o person_n even_o out_o of_o his_o own_o jurisdiction_n provide_v he_o observe_v the_o due_a rite_n of_o ordination_n in_o thing_n essential_a to_o that_o sacrament_n this_o doctrine_n say_v he_o be_v sufficient_o confirm_v by_o the_o continual_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n which_o never_o reordain_v any_o who_o return_v from_o any_o heresy_n or_o schisin_n whatsoever_o in_o which_o they_o be_v ordain_v man_n say_v petavius_n ●_o de_fw-fr eccl._n hier._n l._n 2._o cap._n 9_o §_o ●_o may_v be_v deprive_v of_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n of_o
adore_v the_o rise_a sun_n a_o thing_n which_o some_o christian_n think_v they_o do_v so_o religious_o that_o before_o they_o enter_v into_o the_o church_n of_o st._n peter_n the_o apostle_n ascenditar_n quibus_fw-la ad_fw-la suggestum_fw-la area_n superioris_fw-la ascenditar_n which_o be_v dedicate_v to_o the_o one_o true_a and_o live_a god_n have_v get_v up_o the_o stair_n which_o lead_v to_o the_o ascent_n of_o the_o high_a altar_n turn_v their_o body_n they_o bend_v they_o to_o the_o rise_a sun_n bow_v their_o neck_n in_o honour_n of_o that_o splendid_a orb_n which_o we_o be_v trouble_v to_o see_v do_v partly_o out_o of_o ignorance_n and_o partly_o from_o a_o paganish_a spirit_n for_o though_o perhaps_o some_o worship_n rather_o the_o creator_n of_o this_o bright_a light_n than_o the_o light_n itself_o which_o be_v a_o creature_n yet_o ought_v they_o to_o abstain_v from_o the_o appearance_n of_o this_o service_n which_o when_o one_o who_o have_v leave_v the_o worship_n of_o the_o god_n shall_v find_v among_o we_o will_v he_o not_o retain_v that_o part_n of_o his_o old_a opinion_n as_o probable_a which_o he_o see_v common_a to_o christian_n and_o to_o heathen_n let_v therefore_o that_o perversiness_n which_o be_v to_o be_v condemn_v be_v reject_v from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o faithful_a nor_o let_v the_o honour_n which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o be_v mingle_v with_o their_o rite_n who_o serve_v the_o creature_n for_o the_o holy_a scripture_n say_v thou_o shall_v worship_v the_o lord_n thy_o god_n and_o he_o only_o shall_v thou_o serve_v 28._o matth._n four_o 10._o job_n xxxi_o 26_o 28._o and_o bless_a job_n if_o i_o behold_v the_o sun_n when_o it_o shine_v or_o the_o moon_n walk_v in_o brightness_n and_o my_o heart_n have_v be_v secret_o entice_v or_o my_o mouth_n have_v kiss_v my_o hand_n this_o be_v a_o very_a great_a iniquity_n and_o a_o denial_n of_o the_o most_o high_a god_n where_o 1._o observe_v that_o he_o conclude_v this_o practice_n to_o be_v plain_a idolatry_n because_o as_o he_o insinuate_v it_o be_v the_o give_v of_o that_o worship_n to_o the_o light_n which_o be_v a_o creature_n which_o be_v due_a only_a to_o the_o creator_n of_o that_o light_n it_o be_v say_v he_o the_o honour_n which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o the_o honour_n which_o be_v forbid_v by_o scripture_n which_o say_v thou_o shall_v worship_v the_o lord_n thy_o god_n etc._n etc._n and_o which_o good_a job_n refuse_v to_o do_v because_o it_o be_v a_o virtual_a denial_n of_o the_o god_n above_o 2._o observe_v that_o it_o be_v heathenish_a idolatry_n it_o be_v idolary_a proceed_n say_v st._n leo_n from_o a_o pagan_a spirit_n common_a to_o christian_n with_o the_o heathen_n it_o be_v the_o old_a opinion_n of_o those_o who_o have_v leave_v the_o heathen_a worship_n and_o 3._o notwithstanding_o this_o it_o be_v perform_v by_o some_o christian_n from_o a_o apprehension_n that_o they_o be_v religious_a in_o so_o do_v they_o therefore_o have_v no_o intention_n either_o to_o deny_v or_o dishonour_n god_n by_o this_o service_n pay_v unto_o the_o sun_n and_o therefre_v st._n leo_n call_v they_o christian_n and_o belove_v christian_n he_o say_v they_o do_v it_o partly_o out_o of_o ignorance_n and_o sin_n of_o ignorance_n we_o know_v if_o they_o be_v general_o repent_v of_o exclude_v not_o from_o salvation_n 2._o the_o host_n not_o consecrate_a be_v a_o mere_a creature_n the_o worship_n therefore_o of_o the_o host_n not_o consecrate_a with_o latria_n must_v be_v idolatry_n because_o it_o be_v the_o give_v of_o that_o worship_n to_o a_o creature_n which_o belong_v alone_o to_o the_o creator_n and_o yet_o it_o may_v and_o oft_o do_v happen_v by_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o 2._o the_o multae_fw-la sunt_fw-la causae_fw-la propter_fw-la quas_fw-la potest_fw-la accidere_fw-la ut_fw-la christus_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la praesens_fw-la ut_fw-la si_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la batizatus_fw-la vel_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la ritè_fw-la ordinatus_fw-la quod_fw-la pendet_fw-la ex_fw-la multis_fw-la aliis_fw-la causis_fw-la quibus_fw-la fere_n in_fw-la infinitum_fw-la progredi_fw-la possumus_fw-la suarez_n in_o 3._o th._n qu._n 79._o art_n 8._o disp_n 65._o §_o 2._o romanist_n through_o many_o secret_a defect_n which_o do_v not_o fall_v under_o the_o cognisance_n of_o he_o that_o worship_n that_o the_o host_n present_v to_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o people_n be_v not_o consecrate_a it_o therefore_o may_v and_o oft_o do_v happen_v that_o they_o who_o absolute_o worship_n with_o latria_n the_o suppose_a host_n be_v guilty_a of_o material_a idolatry_n and_o yet_o i_o hope_v r.h._n will_v not_o condemn_v all_o those_o to_o everlasting_a misery_n who_o do_v incur_v this_o guilt_n in_o his_o own_o church_n here_o therefore_o be_v a_o second_o instance_n of_o idolatry_n which_o in_o their_o own_o opinion_n be_v not_o damnable_a nor_o do_v exclude_v a_o person_n from_o be_v a_o true_a member_n of_o the_o church_n 3._o it_o be_v ingenuous_o confess_v by_o many_o romanist_n that_o many_o of_o the_o rude_a sort_n among_o they_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n 1._o in_o worship_v of_o image_n for_o say_v dei_fw-la say_v de_fw-fr vanit_fw-la scient_a cap._n de_fw-fr imag_n where_o he_o also_o ask_v cur_n auferimus_fw-la gloriam_fw-la deo_fw-la tribuentes_fw-la eam_fw-la picturis_fw-la ac_fw-la statuis_fw-la ac_fw-la si_fw-la possent_fw-la trahere_fw-la in_o contemplationem_fw-la dei_fw-la cornelius_n agrippa_n it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v speak_v how_o great_a superstition_n i_o may_v say_v idolatry_n be_v foster_v among_o rude_a people_n by_o image-worship_n while_o the_o priest_n connive_v at_o these_o thing_n and_o make_v no_o small_a gain_n by_o it_o 4._o it_o durand_n rat._n l._n 1._o c._n 3._o num_fw-la 4._o durandus_fw-la mimatensis_n say_v that_o weak_a and_o simple_a people_n by_o indiscreet_a and_o too_o much_o use_v of_o image_n may_v be_v draw_v to_o idolatry_n 206._o biel._n canon_n miss_n lect_v 49._o light_v v._o p._n 114._o b._n consult_v cap._n de_fw-fr imag._n p._n 206._o and_o gabriel_n biel_n add_v that_o some_o people_n be_v so_o foolish_a as_o that_o they_o think_v some_o deity_n or_o sanctity_n to_o be_v in_o image_n cassander_n say_v it_o be_v more_o manifest_a than_o that_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v that_o the_o worship_n of_o image_n and_o idol_n have_v too_o much_o prevail_v and_o the_o superstitious_a humour_n of_o people_n have_v be_v so_o cockered_a that_o nothing_o have_v be_v omit_v among_o we_o either_o of_o the_o high_a adoration_n or_o vanity_n of_o paynim_n in_o worship_v and_o adore_v image_n 423._o l._n 6._o de_fw-fr invent_v rerum_fw-la c._n 13._o p._n 423._o polydore_v virgil_n complain_v that_o the_o people_n be_v grow_v to_o such_o madness_n that_o this_o piety_n of_o image-worship_n differ_v little_a from_o impiety_n for_o there_o be_v many_o rude_a and_o stupid_a person_n who_o adore_v image_n of_o wood_n stone_n marble_n and_o brass_n or_o paint_a 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